Nintendo Switch Dev Kit Stats Leaked? Cortex A57, 4GB RAM, 32GB Storage, Multi-Touch.
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ShadowFox08
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Neogaf really needs to stop being so uptight and having double standards about rumors here. Why can't we facilitate discussion here, no matter how likely it is here? Get a grip guys. Like I said, take with a grain of salt.
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Jpop
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It isn't double standards, it is standards. This site isn't gamefaqs.
ShadowFox08
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Its double standards when you accept this rumor on this title(which has strayed off topic for a looong time now, which I could care less about) because it has its own thread but denounce at anything else that someone simply posts like this one from youtube or the reddit one. What exactly is the difference between the two?
Right. This site isn't gamefaqs, which only you brought up for god knows why. But people are being mindless uptight dweebs here for nothing, if they honestly try to selectively disallow people from simply posting rumors in a thread, with their "neogaf rules" excuse. What exactly is the rules here that people think I'm breaking?
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Hey guys I heard the Switch smells like poop, but take that with a grain of salt. Discuss!
It could be a detriment to consumers if it it's too strong. Smell can have a very strong psychological effect on people that can turn them off to things.
Jonneh3003
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I think you just need to think about whether the rumour is realistic yourself, obviously Red Dead on Switch isn't the craziest thing in the world but I don't think we have enough evidence to actually discuss it. I think Dave has good intentions but his sources seem very spotty, I don't think I'll be able to trust him unless another reporter backs him up.
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Jpop
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There is literally no reason to post/discuss clickbait rumours.
Nintendo is going third party, take it with a grain of salt.
The Switch is going to cost $399, take it with a grain of salt.
Monster Hunter is going to be Sony exclusive, take it with a grain of salt.
Nintendo and Sony are teaming up, take it with a grain of salt.
Nintendo is buying Level-5, take it with a grain of salt.
Rockstar dev claims the Switch is 2x power of Wii U, take it with a grain of salt.
There is a difference between rumours from credible leakers and those who aren't.
ShadowFox08
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I didn't say anything about Red Redemption 2, but anything is possible. I was specifically talking about the power rumors--which I didn't say I believed in. Simply wanted a discussion on it. I personally don't expect it to be above Xbox one specs at launch, but having a discussion about it is fun.
Didn't think people on neogaf would stoop this low with their condensation though for posting a rumor. Mindless mob mentality at its finest also.
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Jpop
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Sorry Neogaf isn't a hivemind simply because people have voiced similar thoughts on the veracity of certain rumours.
The DF threads will be great!
"We've found the Switch to perform better than the PS4 but we're left wanting when comparing it to the Switch. We see noticeable frame drops and pacing issues on the Switch but not on the Switch. We therefore recommend the Switch over the Switch."
I mean, what you posted is complete nonsense.
ShadowFox08
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By your definition then, every single rumor is clickbait. Where do you think you are posting and reading for the last dozens of pages, you pompous hypocrite. The rumor from this original thread isn't exactly Emily Rogers or Laura Kate Dale and already has been discredited.
And people herd into mob mentality here to oust others like anywhere else.
Jonneh3003
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I just don't think there's anything to talk about here, until Dave has some proof that he's reliable again there's nothing separating him from someone like myself. Anyway I think it's best we all drop this, nothing's gained from arguing about this.
TLZ
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Don't fool yourself. Hiveminds are everywhere.
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Jpop
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Have a bad day their bud?
I don't why you take the rumour you posted so seriously that you are willing to dig a grave over defending it and outright insulting people.
The statement from the rumour is that switch run current gen games easy but there are compromises for the handheld mode, do you agree?
Jonneh3003
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I imagine he feels a little ganged up on, we're all free to share what we like, we don't have to follow up the discussion. He did go too far with the insult though.
lwilliams3
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The problem is that SMD was on the wrong side of the rumors for the Switch before, and he was a bit of a jerk and denounced other insiders prior to the official announcement. People will be a bit skeptical on any rumors coming from him.
In addition, your initial summary of the rumor doesn't make sense.
TLZ
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But isn't this thread topic fake and we all still discussed? Why can't we discuss and refute fake SMD rumors too the same way? I mean if he was a silly troll I'd get it but he isn't. Why not have have fun and not take things too seriously until reveal date?
Jonneh3003
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TLZ
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Right then.
Forget SMD, it's Nico's rumors.
Can some knowledgeable person tell me why a docked switch can't be as powerful as a PS4 3 years after it? Is it the fact it's form factor is smaller? But it doesn't have a disc drive nor an hdd. Shouldn't that automatically make it smaller? Is it impossible to have a CPU or gpgpu whatever in that form factor that can perform as good as a PS4 or better, for the rumored price of $250-300?
SMD got everything about Switch wrong. Nico also a shady result with its rumours, the latest fuckup being about the day of the Switch reveal. I don't even remember when it was the last time he got something right.
We complained a lot about the info in the OP being from an unreliable source but for some reason this thread still exists. That doesn't mean that we need even more bulshit info on top.
mugurumakensei
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it ain't price that's the issue. it's thermals. Even in the absolute best case given current tech, it's be possible to reach close to XBox One perf. The only thing that could match or exceed the PS4 is the CPU which we've already heard statements to the effect of better than PS4 and X1 in that regard. It's not new info.
fuckin' Nintendo and quantum entanglement
I would pretty much write it off then because new tech is almost never the cheapest and Nintendo are very cost conscious.
This is still a rumor? Switch isn't a PS4. Accept it.
lwilliams3
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That "dock-mode" rumor came back..
There may be some truth to the system increasing its power when docked, though, if we go by Laura's sources that has been shown to be legit so far. The problem is that the gap between the original Tegra X1 powerlevel and the PS4 is not small. If the Switch in portable mode is like 512 GFLOPS for fp32, the GPU would have to go over 3x faster to surpass the PS4's GPU in raw power. That doesn't sound too realistic.
We live in a post-truth world now, where feeling now has more weight than truth and critical thinking.
People feel climate change isn't real.
People feel that Trump is going to drain the swamp.
People feel that Nintendo Switch is going to be more powerful than a PS4 in raw numbers.
i think what will help most for 3rd-party support (which is why people care at all about the ps4 comparisons, i assume), is that the switch is way better than vita, and devs are still doing psv/ps4 versions of games in japan. this basically locks down a lot of support for the platform if developers were previously relying on the psv/ps4 userbase.
if people were expecting the witcher 3 then they would get a worse version of the game, if they got it at all. it's a portable device. people should keep their expectations in check regarding what that means to recent history.
Even in jest, its best not to normalize post-truth, its trash and treat it as such. If someone "feels" something, either punch them in the face and ask how your fist feels, challenge their feelings with facts and don't relent (then ask them how browbeating feels), or walk away...
... and lock them up in a dark room and ask them how loneliness feels some weeks later.
Schnozberry
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SMD could report the sky is blue and I'd still have to look outside and check.
And that Vita looks to be on its last legs since it is selling less YoY currently in Japan, I don't know of any big software sellers coming out and Vita having only 5+ million LTD sales means it's similar to Wii U.
Hence Japanese developers would have to look at either porting games to Switch, go mobile, or do both.
JoshuaJSlone
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Most of us remember a time when the portable version of a home game turned out like
so a future where we've got the possibility of getting worse versions of actually the same game sounds pretty great.
Indeed.Most of us remember a time when the portable version of a home game turned out like
so a future where we've got the possibility of getting worse versions of actually the same game sounds pretty great.
brochiller
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Why shouldn't I believe this?
Because the idea of a portable more powerful than a PS4 is complete and utter bullshit.
Also SMD taints everything by association for obvious reasons.
lwilliams3
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Yeah. Vita's default GPU clock speed is 111MHz, which is 14.2 GFLOPS. That is alot lower than people expected, but it makes it even more impressive on how good some of those Vita games are. The Switch will likely be close to 40x that graphical power. That is absurd when you consider the large gap between the PSVita and the 3DS.
Jesus, what's the jump from 3DS to Switch then?
Man, I'm pretty optimistic as far as hardware goes. It doesn't even matter which hardware we're talking about Playstation, Xbox, NGage, etc. However, I don't believe for a second that the NS is as powerful as the PS4...even when docked. No one should do this to themselves. I think it will be more powerful when docked than in handheld mode. This is mainly to drive 1080p gameplay on the big screen and I think it can do that since it'll have a constant power source so it doesn't have to hold anything back. The main issue will be cooling and I think there will be a decent cooling system inside to help with that. But even so, there's no reason to believe that it'll get that kind of jump when docked...especially since the rumor puts no extra hardware inside the dock itself.
Don't get me wrong, I think the NS games will look good on the TV screen, but as powerful as the PS4. No way. I'd like to be wrong on this, but I feel stuff like this is just wishful thinking.
Look here is the best to expect...
CPU wise the nintendo switch will have a better cpu than ps4 any way you slice it as long as it's 4 cores or more. Jaguar is trash.
GPU wise there won't be as many shader cores as the ps4 or even the xbox one but efficiency, newer tech, and clever programming will help narrow the gap. But there will still be a gap.
Could some games maybe run some parts better due to a better cpu? Maybe.
Will the games look pretty close to ps4 games when docked? Probably.
Will switch have the same horsepower as a ps4? Absolutely not.
Don't forget this is something that can be taken on the go and probably has a better low price point. Don't expect miracles.
In fact if it can even get games that look close to ps4 multiplats that is a miracle in itself.
CPU wise the nintendo switch will have a better cpu than ps4 any way you slice it as long as it's 4 cores or more. Jaguar is trash.
GPU wise there won't be as many shader cores as the ps4 or even the xbox one but efficiency, newer tech, and clever programming will help narrow the gap. But there will still be a gap.
Could some games maybe run some parts better due to a better cpu? Maybe.
Will the games look pretty close to ps4 games when docked? Probably.
Will switch have the same horsepower as a ps4? Absolutely not.
Don't forget this is something that can be taken on the go and probably has a better low price point. Don't expect miracles.
In fact if it can even get games that look close to ps4 multiplats that is a miracle in itself.
lwilliams3
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Well.. if you consider that the GPU for the 3DS uses half of its power to render 3D, there will probably be well over 100x difference in raw graphical power The 3DS does have a good fixed shader feature set to offset comparisons like that, though.
NeOak
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Grampa Simpson
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Some people even feel that the ps2 is faster than the GameCube.
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I expect them to look pretty close on the tv too. Most people aren't able to tell as big difference between native resolutions in game as they pretend to.
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I think NS games will look fine on the TV. Probably better on it's 720p screen, but the games will still look nice on the TV and probably running natively at 1080p.
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