5 of Street Fighter V Season 2 characters are going to be newcomers
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But how can it grow when the roots are being slowly ripped from out under it? Sagat is important. Gen is important. These "new" characters are going to piss a lot of people off even if they are good because people will always wonder "what if" a favorite of theirs made it in this glorious engine.
8.3 million. Yup.
Nah lol.
Capcom thought that SFV would sell 2M by their deadline. It did not.
Capcom thought the game would have enough for casuals and they flat out said they underestimated what casuals wanted.
Capcom thought that Story Mode would be what gets people back into the game, it didn't.
Now Capcom thinks doing 5 brand new characters and not more classics, hell even an even ratio, is a great idea.
Sounds like another Capcom SFV blunder to me.
Unspeakable Evil
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Gonna guess that it doesn't really matter if the characters are new or returning. If you're not into SF5 now your probably weren't gonna get it.
Capcom could add 5 classics and still not gain interest.
Gunslinger
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off topic: R mike is like a MK character. She can carry you to corner easy and from there you are in the mercy of that character lol. And pray your guess lands over the .50 threshold. probability of guessing what mika player will do is theoretically 1/2 but sure as doesn't feel like it. Zangief or Alex wishes they had mixup potential of Mika lol. I have been saying since day one that R.Mika top 3 if not the best character.
on topic: Akuma looks cool but not really feeling the all new 5 characters. Needed some classics too.
on topic: Akuma looks cool but not really feeling the all new 5 characters. Needed some classics too.
Raylan Targaryen
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or maybe it appeals to new people who are tired of the same characters. There's not a million hold outs because Sakura or Sagat aren't in the game
What if these new characters are fucking awesome? Better than characters you've been hoping for? I mean, what if it's characters from other capcom franchises like Project Justice, Vampire Savior, or Power Stone?
Anything is possible. Just have some faith. And if you aren't into the game now I don't think one character is going to pull you in. You'd probably just read complaints and repeat what you read.
Shit. They just release marvel 3 and announced a new one.
Anything is possible. Just have some faith. And if you aren't into the game now I don't think one character is going to pull you in. You'd probably just read complaints and repeat what you read.
Shit. They just release marvel 3 and announced a new one.
Hot Coldman
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SFV needs more than just 4 newcomers. Rashid and Laura are fantastic, hopefully these newcomers are just as good.
I don't think they mean "brand new" as in never featured in any other game. For the most part I expect some guest characters either from other companies or from other Capcom franchises.
The roots. Sir, what are you talking about? Most of the casts as of today is returners. Fan favorites and staples.
... so you see how silly your comment was, or something? I don't get this response.
Gen is my favorite SF character but i wouldn't call him important.
You do however have a point about this being very annoying if someone's favorite character is not yet in the game.
WrenchNinja
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No Sakura? Goddamn it Capcom
I've seen more people saying they're declining and they don't like the idea than they do like the idea. That's not good by any means. That's just not positive no matter what spin people try to do with it. It just seems to me to be another SFV Blunder we've seen since before this game even launched. They haven't proven it's not yet.
And nah, I'm not gonna do the "I gotta trust in Capcom they'll get it right, wait and see" thing given their track record. We've been here before. I'm just gonna personally tune out until Season 3 hits and then maybe we'll get some more classic characters that I actually want.
It'll probably be 2 brand new characters in SFV in general and probably 3 crossover characters. I'm not playing these games for crossover characters though, that's the least of what I personally want. Even if they get Kaz, Hei or Jin in it just doesn't rock with me even though I love Tekken more than SF.
Just not feeling it at all. The same with me not feeling how they designed this new Akuma. I'll buy him separately and immediately go to his classic costume.
Or what if they have been developing these characters for a while now? Its no secret that SFV released barebones and early they probably had the several "seasons" worth of characters already in development and the newbies where much farther along.
They still had to model those characters, balance them, come up with unique stuff for them. I don't see how this is bad especially since we will at minimum get 3-4 more season passes. PLENTY of opportunity for oldies to return.
In fact they did just that in season 1.
Raylan Targaryen
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If they wanted new characters it should have been...
- Akuma
- Classic character
- Classic character
- New character
- New character
- New character
It gives an even ratio and enough incentive to purchase the pass for those who are passing on it. At least you give me half of what I want in classics but you also open the way for brand new characters to come in. You ease the new characters in slowly rather than giving them all at once.
Now all I want in SF is Akuma and I'll buy him separately and not get the pass.
I'm not really a fan of crossover characters either but all the best selling fighting game franchises are doing guest characters and Street Fighter is the only one that hasn't done that as of yet. It seems like a no brainer that if you want more eyes on your game that's what you need to do.
Nemesis121
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I hope they get a guest character from DarkStalkers or Tekken, love to see Dimitri/BB Hood or Armored King... if they don't have a guest character this will end up being a blunder, I want to purchase S2 but without knowing the characters I can't give them my money..
Well I figured akuma was always destined to be on no matter what. I always felt they were set on 5 so the ratio between classic and new was always gonna be lopsided if you actually count him. But yea youre right.
Ugh. This sucks so bad
The majority of characters hail from SF2 and Alpha and aren't being removed so I don't understand your "ripping the roots". The new characters are going to be treated as events like every other character reveal.
I'm not against crossover characters coming in. I'm just against the ratio they did it here because 5 brand new and only 1 classic SF character is just a no no as we can see from people's responses. They could have done 3 classics and 3 crossovers and I'd be cool with it. I'm just not with the "ok here's 5 brand new guys" thing they're doing.
Well I figured akuma was always destined to be on no matter what. I always felt they were set on 5 so the ratio between classic and new was always gonna be lopsided if you actually count him. But yea youre right.
Ugh. This sucks so bad
Yep, very much so.
If they gave us Akuma, 2 classics and 3 brand new even crossover characters I doubt people would be tuning out here.
Immortal Technique
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In that scenario I'm curious how your Seasons 3 and 4 would look in terms of 'star power'..
;A;
Dont play with me like this!!!! *Bursts into tears*
You edited it. You said that rolento would be on the roster!!!!!!!!!!! Where you goin? Dont change it now!
Why change a winning formula? I'd be fine with just old characters that I already know how to control.
I think so too. SFV needs to get over its perception of poor value more than anything else. Adding a few more fan favorites wouldn't hurt, but it probably wouldn't do much either (save for the small amount of folks who *must* have their fave present). And I highly doubt it's a death knell for the game like some here are painting it to be.
The people already playing will buy & main the new characters if they're viable above all.
Immortal Technique
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I'm looking forward to something. Five new characters.
Season 2
Akuma
New
C. Viper
New
Sagat
New
Season 3
Sakura
New
Oro
New
Feilong
New
Season 4
Honda
New
Makoto
New
Maki
New
Season 5
Blanka
New
Sodom
New
Dudley
New
New characters is what got me excited about about every Street Fighter iteration. Hell, I'm like that with any fighting game that gets a sequel.
It's like the fighting game community is comprised of a bunch of old men shaking their fists at clouds.
Nice.
This would have worked out much better. I'd approve. Even more so, a lot of people are finally looking forward to their favorites getting the appearance changes they've wanted for 2 decades. Now, they gotta wait for it. A problem is a lot of people don't understand that people are actually attached to certain characters in fighting games. Some people care more about the characters, their stories and their experiences more than actual gameplay. Yeah, we get it, people love gameplay and now they have new characters to play and enjoy but that does take away from the people who like characters.
That whole "well you have to wait because they'll eventually be in" thing is exactly why people aren't buying the pass. People are waiting and not caring about the game until their characters come in. It's understandable regardless if people want new characters or not because they have a reason to feel that way.
I wish people would just stop beating around the bush.
the real issue is that they aren't getting "their" character. People are trying to justify their rage because that sounds a lot more selfish.
Thats fine too btw. Be selfish...just don't try to act like you aren't by concern posting.
I currently don't have a main in SFV (Ken maybe..but my tatsu game has always been trash juice). Ibuki and Juri didn't click like I wanted to. And Makoto isn't walking through that door. So I get it. I also think they should have gone half and half but eh.... how about people wait and see if any of these new peeps actually speak to you before losing your shit? Its weird that people aren't even open to the possibility that one of the new characters could become your new favorite. I never understood the if my ONE character isn't in, then I out mentality personally. hell Sagat and Sakura could come back and be completely different (like Juri and Ibuki)...then what?
again people are so quick to go right to being mad around here...take a wait and see approach. It will save a lot of angst and stress. Be dissapointed that your fav is being held out...for sure. But also look at the "potential" positives for once, eh?
the real issue is that they aren't getting "their" character. People are trying to justify their rage because that sounds a lot more selfish.
Thats fine too btw. Be selfish...just don't try to act like you aren't by concern posting.
I currently don't have a main in SFV (Ken maybe..but my tatsu game has always been trash juice). Ibuki and Juri didn't click like I wanted to. And Makoto isn't walking through that door. So I get it. I also think they should have gone half and half but eh.... how about people wait and see if any of these new peeps actually speak to you before losing your shit? Its weird that people aren't even open to the possibility that one of the new characters could become your new favorite. I never understood the if my ONE character isn't in, then I out mentality personally. hell Sagat and Sakura could come back and be completely different (like Juri and Ibuki)...then what?
again people are so quick to go right to being mad around here...take a wait and see approach. It will save a lot of angst and stress. Be dissapointed that your fav is being held out...for sure. But also look at the "potential" positives for once, eh?
Not really sure what the hatred is over new characters.
I'll be the first to admit that Capcom hasn't always knocked it out of the park with newcomers. Necalli in particular comes across as a huge chunk of wasted potential. Still doesn't mean that I don't want to see something fresh and interesting. It's better they create something new for people to criticise on their own merits rather than situations like with Ibuki where a lot of the old Ibuki mains won't play her anymore because they tried to revamp her moveset and everyone else already wasn't interested.
Maybe dumping 5 newcomers in one season isn't the best for the people waiting for their old mains to come back (I'm one of them), but there's a possibility that something even better than my old main is behind one of those silhouettes.
I'll be the first to admit that Capcom hasn't always knocked it out of the park with newcomers. Necalli in particular comes across as a huge chunk of wasted potential. Still doesn't mean that I don't want to see something fresh and interesting. It's better they create something new for people to criticise on their own merits rather than situations like with Ibuki where a lot of the old Ibuki mains won't play her anymore because they tried to revamp her moveset and everyone else already wasn't interested.
Maybe dumping 5 newcomers in one season isn't the best for the people waiting for their old mains to come back (I'm one of them), but there's a possibility that something even better than my old main is behind one of those silhouettes.
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Who's beating around the bush? People aren't picking the pass up because they're not getting who they want to play otherwise, why wouldn't they get the pass? Also, how is it selfish for wanting a character you enjoy playing compared to others wanting a new character to try out? Both ways are selfish given what you as a player are choosing who you want to play. Not one is more selfish than the other. Also like I said, people have been with Capcom on this SFV trip and how many times did Capcom let people down? This is another one for them given they said "yeah I'm skipping on the pass" and that's how they feel. They have that right to feel that way. If anything, people trying to get mad at others for not choosing the pass and not wanting new characters, characters they want to play and are attached to are basically saying the same as those when SFV came out who were saying "you don't need Arcade Mode, go to Survival." The same as those saying "play online, you don't need that casual and single-player stuff." It's saying "you don't need your classics, try these new guys out" which is an insult to everyone who wants classics. People can't tell anyone how to play the game and if something should get them excited or not. They have each and every right to play who and what they want to and this is no different.
People aren't picking up the pass because they don't want the new characters and they want to play their classics. That is "waiting to see their characters jump in the game and then picking it up" and until then, they can say what they want because they have the freedom to say it. Those people will join when they want to. Until then, they'll keep saying who they want to show their disapproval of their characters not being in regardless who wants new characters and regardless who doesn't want new characters because we all have different opinions and we're free to voice them.
It's just that simple. Everybody is in the same boat here. The difference is some want new characters, are excited, and will get the pass. The others want their classics, aren't excited, and won't get the pass until their characters are in. Difference sides of the same coin.
Nobody's wrong in this case.
direct_quote
Member
I just think it's risky not putting in fan favorites for season pass. Akuma being frontloaded means everyone just going to save up FM for him and skip the season pass. Ain't no one going to buy a season pass for new characters they know nothing about.
That's silly and you know it.
Brand new game! Street Fighter 30! Same roster as the one in 1996. That makes sense.
That doesn't apply to everyone. My character is Cammy and she's in the game. What I don't want is them to blow their load on new characters especially when they could turn out to be lame like El Fuerte, Rufus, Hakan and Laura.
direct_quote
Member
I think that was more a reflection on a bad launch and press... And for the first DLC character Capcom barely even hyped him up (Alex), and released a trailer wayyy too late.
There was a notable increase in the Steam player count once the cinematic story mode and Balrog was out. So I don't think it's correct to say returning characters haven't done anything for the game.
Raylan Targaryen
Member
No one is going to buy the season pass because no one knows who is in it. If they announced that the season pass had something like Heihachi, two Rival Schools characters and Mike Haggar people would be interested. Instead, we know nothing which is a bad thing because it doesn't allow a positive message over the new additions but people get to spread negativity because their favorites won't be in the game until 2018.