FFXV's future updates adjust chapters, add cutscenes, add playable characters, more

I'll stop playing (chapter 3) and will come back in may 2017 or so...So yeah, we bought an early acces full priced game. Sigh.
 
Just got to Chapter 3, so I guess I'll put the game down until they actually finish the damn thing. At least I only paid $30 for it.
 
I doubt it's gonna be absolutely pivotal material. Will it add more flavor to the secondary and tertiary characters? Yes. But is the story fine without it? Yes (debatable by some I guess).

I suppose I can understand why people would be slightly annoyed by it....but saying "omg mess disaster apocalypse 0/10 worst game ever" is a little ridiculous. Be happy they are still working on making the game better after people have already paid for the game. They can easily just leave it in the state it is in now and no one would even say anything.

Also, it's not like facts in the timeline of the game are going to change all of a sudden. If it does I'll be the first to say "wtf? really?" but to me this is just an update to add more back story to guys like Ravus, and maybe a few others that were part of the empire.






This.

Being in Chapter 5 I have no clue who that is or how he's portrayed or if the story will suck for me or not. So far it has sucked pretty bad although it picked up a bit at the end of Chapter 4 for me. And hell yeah adding back story to characters adds a lot to a games story. Again people sitting here lamenting others complaining, they have valid points. Would I have preferred the game to be delayed a few months to get the a better story, damn right I would. This story has such potential that crappy execution is even more disappointing
 
So basically the game is still not done, and they are going to finish it over the next few months. Weird.

The game is definitely not finished, but it sounds like they might only be trying to patch the holes with new cutscenes and exposition rather than fixing it fully. The fact they think tweaking the strength of your weapon in Chapter 13 is the fix that chapter needs kinda suggests they aren't considering any major overhauls.

There's literally years of work left on this title if they want the whole story and gameplay setup to be as fun as the first 5 chapters are. The game is one third finished and arguably the best FF, two thirds rushed and arguably the worst FF.
 
Do you really believe that though? They've sunk so much time and money into this game. The last thing they need is word of mouth making their sales drop off. Especially when they have dlc to sell. Its a mainline Final Fantasy game. One of gaming's most recognized brands. They're going to do everything they can to move units.

Yes I do. The majority of people like the game, the backlash on gaf is very much a vocal minority (much like many AAA games that disappoint).

Word of mouth is going to be much more positive than negative imo.
 
Overall this is pretty cool to read but I am also just finished Chapter 1. However, I would be lying if this if I said this doesn't make me want to put the game down for a little bit at least until they get a schedule for when these updates will drop. Like someone mentioned before CD Projekt did something similiar to this with both the Witcher 2 & 3 although the news didn't come a week after release.
 
I doubt it's gonna be absolutely pivotal material. Will it add more flavor to the secondary and tertiary characters? Yes. But is the story fine without it? Yes (debatable by some I guess).

I suppose I can understand why people would be slightly annoyed by it....but saying "omg mess disaster apocalypse 0/10 worst game ever" is a little ridiculous. Be happy they are still working on making the game better after people have already paid for the game. They can easily just leave it in the state it is in now and no one would even say anything.

Also, it's not like facts in the timeline of the game are going to change all of a sudden. If it does I'll be the first to say "wtf? really?" but to me this is just an update to add more back story to guys like Ravus, and maybe a few others that were part of the empire.

That's it for me.

I get being upset at yet another game being released unfinished. But it is what it is at this point, and we should know better than to buy games at launch if it's something that bothers us. If more people waited and bought games later when they were cheaper and finished/fixed maybe it would hit pubs in their wallets and we'd see more delaying games until they're truly ready.

In this case, I'm not terribly bothered as the story is pretty bland as a whole. Adding in more details isn't going to fix that for me. I love the game for just vegging out and exploring and questing and the dungeons. So I don't feel I'll really miss anything by finishing my playthrough and likely never replaying. I'll just YouTube the extra cutscenes at most.
 
Finished yesterday, liked it a bunch and this is honestly great news. Was hoping something like this would happen. I'd prefer a separate Director's Cut/FES/Golden release but very happy the team is committed to working on all aspects the game apart from DLC and making it the best version it can possibly be.

If I had a choice I'd prefer another delay for a year to work with what they have now, but I also get the business and financial realities of a project in severe development hell that's bleeding money and needs to ship at some point. Not a perfect situation, but this is the best possible outcome.
 
Yes I do. The majority of people like the game, the backlash on gaf is very much a vocal minority (much like many AAA games that disappoint).

Word of mouth is going to be much more positive than negative imo.

Its also only been a week. Not everyone is going to power through a game like others might.
 
They're saying parts of the story don't make sense so they're fleshing em out so they do, at least that's what's I'm gathering. I'm on chapter 5 myself so I don't know just how disjointed it gets.

Okay cool, that makes sense. I'm still trying grasp the differences between:

a. Final Fantasy vs XIII and the most ambitious vision for Final Fantasy XV
b. How those compare to the Final Fantasy XV that was recently released.
c. What SE plans for the long term of FFXV.
 
The game is definitely not finished, but it sounds like they might only be trying to patch the holes with new cutscenes and exposition rather than fixing it fully. The fact they think tweaking the strength of your weapon in Chapter 13 is the fix that chapter needs kinda suggests they aren't considering any major overhauls.

There's literally years of work left on this title if they want the whole story and gameplay setup to be as fun as the first 5 chapters are. The game is one third finished and arguably the best FF, two thirds rushed and arguably the worst FF.

if running around back and forth doing mmorpg kill quests with time-of-day requirements, with no way to set the time except when you accept the quest, is the 'good' part of the game...

Anyways after it crashed on me and corrupted my save file I'm probably just going to wait for this patch.
 
Why is there so much positive reactions here ?
Why is it so much difficult to understand that people who saw all those problems are absolutly digusted to see that other will be able to experience it better but not them which DID bought the game on launch, puting their trust on Square Enix ?

Do you think everyone have 40 hours to put on a game all over again because "hey, maybe this time the game will be more fleshed out" ? Time is precious, i hate doing this and i will never forget this stuff from Square Enix. For me it's just a scandal and i don't get why it's not the same for so much people.

I will have FFXV by Cristmas but from now on, all their game will be bought way after their release. Including KH 3 and of course the remake of FFVII, that's like, the LEAST i can react. I feel like i can only have trust in Nintendo for buying stuff early... and Indie games.... And i hope Atlus.
Most people don't, but this isn't 1999 anymore. They're not adding a whole game of content, changes here and there. YouTube comes in handy for something like this.

And lol, this situation isn't something that happens everyday.
 
As to the nature of this patch, it is of course messed up they sold the game missing so much core story and ironing out of chapter 13 (no idea why this chapter is supposed to be so bad, but I've heard non-stop complaints so it must be) and playable characters.

But yeah, I'm not going to criticize the fact they are intending to fix the issue with free updates. That is the right thing to do, and in the end those who own the game might ultimately have the gane they imagined. It is my same thought as No Man's Sky. No, the time has not passed. It is never too late to right a wrong and give people the product desired or promised.

Good for SquareEnix communucating this fact, good on them committing to it. But they should have been honest about the unfinished product they were releasing prior to launch. Nonetheless, this is now the right thing to do.
 
I feel like I say it every two days, buy Gaf's hyperbole knows no bounds. It's hilarious.

Hear, hear! This forum, for all the quality that can be found, is utter shit sometimes.

On Topic, I am excited to see the changes. I enjoy the game so far so this can only help.
 
FFXV is a good game. Quite flawed but still good overall.
Great* ;)

As to the nature of this patch, it is of course messed up they sold the game missing so much core story and ironing out of chapter 13 (no idea why this chapter is supposed to be so bad, but I've heard non-stop complaints so it must be) and playable characters.

But yeah, I'm not going to criticize the fact they are intending to fix the issue with free updates. That is the right thing to do, and in the end those who own the game might ultimately have the gane they imagined. It is my same thought as No Man's Sky. No, the time has not passed. It is never too late to right a wrong and give people the product desired or promised.

Good for SquareEnix communucating this fact, good on them committing to it. But they should have been honest about the unfinished product they were releasing prior to launch. Nonetheless, this is now the right thing to do.

Perfectly put.
 
As to the nature of this patch, it is of course messed up they sold the game missing so much core story and ironing out of chapter 13 (no idea why this chapter is supposed to be so bad, but I've heard non-stop complaints so it must be) and playable characters.

But yeah, I'm not going to criticize the fact they are intending to fix the issue with free updates. That is the right thing to do, and in the end those who own the game might ultimately have the gane they imagined. It is my same thought as No Man's Sky. No, the time has not passed. It is never too late to right a wrong and give people the product desired or promised.

Good for SquareEnix communucating this fact, good on them committing to it. But they should have been honest about the unfinished product they were releasing prior to launch. Nonetheless, this is now the right thing to do.

While you're right, no company that wants to remain a company is going to announce that the game so many have been looking forward to, and has taken so long is coming out in an unfinished state. Game sales are front loaded. They know that would have been a curse never lifted.
 
FFXV is a good game. Quite flawed but still good overall.

I feel like it missed the mark on the fucking basics

Combat is just terribly infuriating for me right now

I feel like im playing a mashup of western games mixed with FF and Japanese elements.
 
the difference between XII and XII international is that the two versions still exist as representations of the game in those time periods.

with patching that clear division doesn't exist. that's my problem. where do you draw the line here? as someone who enjoyed chapter 13 that section will now change because some people hated it. guess what? it's OK to not like things. CH 13 is one of the few bold design choices they made, and if you keep trying to please everyone you'll eventually sand the edges off of everything that is interesting about your game.
 
Completely possible for those that work fulltime jobs, have significant others, and other games they're trying to play. Not sure what your point is.

What I mean is that people usually don't need months to complete a game, even if their time is short. Those that can't are in the minority, and most people that can't won't buy the game day one.

The fact that is clear that this is not a problem that will affect only those completed the game in 3 days like you said.
 
I mean, I'm not going to make excuses for the state the game launched in (even if it is still an enjoyable experience for me; I'm only on Chapter 9, though)

but at least I don't have to buy FFXV: International/Final Mix/Ascencion Edition to get these changes like you would have had to do for FFVII, X, XII, and at least three KH games
 
While you're right, no company that wants to remain a company is going to announce that the game so many have been looking forward to, and has taken so long is coming out in an unfinished state. Game sales are front loaded. They know that would have been a curse never lifted.

I agree in the sense that I comprehend why they did not communicate that fact, particularly given the games history. That said, sometimes difficult choices must be made. In the perfect world, they would have delayed the product again or told gamers the product was not in a completed state upon release.

However we are not in a perfect world and they made the decision that best helped their bottom line in the short term. I think that was a mistake, but I understand their thought process here.

Still ultimately they do have a responsibility to fix this mistake. And they seem to be doing so. Im not sure how much their DLC will cost, but they should probably offer episode Prompto for free or something if it isnt already. For ammends.
 
I feel like it missed the mark on the fucking basics

Combat is just terribly infuriating for me right now

I feel like im playing a mashup of western games mixed with FF and Japanese elements.

I think they should've allowed an option for advanced combat controls where we can actually hit buttons for custom combos. Holding down a button is actually pretty weird.
 
"Guys we listened to your complaints and will address them as soon as we can to make the game as good as we can"

"Lol what a mess, fuck you guys!"
 
I feel like it missed the mark on the fucking basics

Combat is just terribly infuriating for me right now

I feel like im playing a mashup of western games mixed with FF and Japanese elements.
First, change the control type to C or even B, just don't use A

If after 1 hour playing with these controls you don't like the battle system, you're never gonna like
 
I agree in the sense that I comprehend why they did not communicate that fact, particularly given the games history. That said, sometimes difficult choices must be made. In the perfect world, they would have delayed the product again or told gamers the product was not in a completed state upon release.

However we are not in a perfect world and they made the decision that best helped their bottom line in the short term. I think that was a mistake, but I understand their thought process here.

Still ultimately they do have a responsibility to fix this mistake. And they seem to be doing so. Im not sure how much their DLC will cost, but they should probably offer episode Prompto for free or something if it isnt already. For ammends.
Agreed. That won't make everyone happy, but t would help. I'm still relatively early in the game, so I'm personally happy about this. Early story wise...15 hours or so game wise.

Now if only they added stackable quests in this laundry list of fixes...
 
Why though?

Because they rushed out a project that clearly needed more time in the oven, especially when it comes to its story and presentation of it

No, nobody should thank them for doing the thing they should have done from the get go

Yeah, they should've just left it as if and pull a MGSV. "It's good enough, fuck it".

Embarrassing; pointing to the mistakes of MGSV doesn't nullify mistakes of FFXV
 
Why though?

Probably because it makes it sound like se is doing this out of the goodness of the hearts. As if a week of feedback really made them arrive to this conclusion. Like I said before, they likely knew these problems existed. However talking about them would have cost them preorders. Square Enix is a business and Final Fantasy is one of their biggest most recognizable brands. They're going to do everything they can to maximize the sales of this game.
 
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