Nintendo Switch Presentation 2017 Thread: Joy-Conference

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GUYS WAT?
 
Zelda looked breathtaking, Mario looks fun and interesting.

I admit, I am shocked at the lack of games shown. Nintendo had a looooong time to prepare for this. Also, I'm getting really sick of "we will be implementing X feature, but it won't be available at launch. Watch our website for future news.".

I'm still going to buy one coz Nintendo, but, fuck me, if you ain't ready, don't launch!
 
How fucking hard would it really be to get the 5 best Wii U games and port them to Switch for launch?

Plenty of people like me have wanted to play Splatoon or maybe MK8 but werent gonna buy into a dying console.

At minimum, Mario Maker Switch shoulda been a launch game.

Stunningly stupid.
 
Imma bet it's DOA. Why would you release a console with so few games, at that price, with those features?

I'm feeling there's another Wii-U in Nintendo's future.
 
Amazon UK preorders just opened and are sold out already. Genuine supply issue or standard Nintendo artificial shortage tactics?

EDIT: looks like I am wrong, the preorders are back - the "currently unavailable" must've been a temporary glitch or something.
 
Nickle said:
You guys set your expectations way too high, this happens for basically every single press conference that Nintendo ever does. It's OK to be disappointed with the presentation, but some of you were acting like it would cost $200 and come with 10 launch games.
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Even if you forget about the price and the blatant lack of exciting software it would still have been a shitshow. There was absolutely no reason to spend that much time fixating on fucking joycons when they don't appear to be much more than miniature Wii remotes at first glance. The dreadful translator...The boneheaded decision to showcase that rinkydink 1 2 Switch game as the first game you want people to see for the international launch of a console. It was sad and terrible. I should have gone to bed.
 
Haines said:
Loved the conference and the games.

You guys are just doing your typical song and dance like always.

Mario looks amazing and i cant wait for it.
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I don't think anyone here is disputing that Mario looks great, or that Zelda looks great. People want to know what the hell Nintendo has been up to for the last 2 years besides R&D on a 3 hour battery livin' SUPER WII MOTE usin' no games at launch havin' console for two hundred ninety nine dollars.

To be clear YES Nintendo software is still king, there just wasn't enough of it to show.
 
suaveric said:
My only question is where was UbiSoft? Was Just Dance it?
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Rayman, an amazing game but one that is very cheap and on many other systems.
Ubi normally comes out hard on new hardware, capitalizing on the traditional slow launch periods.
Not seeing much from them today was jarring.
 
suaveric said:
My only question is where was UbiSoft? Was Just Dance it?
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Steep was in the montage


Edit: worth noting that Steep was made as a spin off of Ghost Recon: Wildlands open world tech. If Steep is there. Ghost Recon would be incredibly easy to port should Ubi want to do that
 
I was actually cautiously optimistic going into this. I was ready to pull the lever for a pre order if I was wow'ed. I was not...

I was immediately turned off by the motion controls. I can't believe they haven't learned their lesson. Now they want you to wave your arms like a crazy person and while NOT looking at a screen. It seems like Wii Music. This isn't bringing back that casual market either.

The core audience wanted a unified eshop/purchases. No more buying classics for the 3rd or 4th time.

No Gamecube games for VC.

No 3rd party in sight.

The price isn't worth it to me and it seems like that is true for many others.

The launch titles. Woof. I'll buy Zelda for my Wii U.

Accessory prices are laughable.

The paid online service seems so far behind their competitors.

Shame. I would understand if they couldn't deliver on all of these but com'n.
 
Presentation was kinda bare-bones, but overall a solid showing. Mario looked cool, Zelda trailer was absolutely stunning (one of the best I've ever seen I'd say) and there were some fun surprises here and there like Fire Emblem Warriors, Xenoblade 2, SMT and Splatoon 2 even if they didn't show a whole lot. They definiely needed to go all-out and they didn't.
 
That's a pretty rough launch. I mean the only thing great there is Zelda and then you are done for awhile unless you want an upgrade of Mario Kart.

Where the hell is Monster Hunter
 
HotHamBoy said:
Ortho, I feel like you and I share a lot of the same views, yeah?

You would agree that this seems like Nintendo at its most misguided, right?

Like they have learned absolutely nothing from the 3DS and Wii U? If anything, aspects of their concept is even more flawed.

What we are seeing here is a proprietary gimmick inflating the price of what is otherwise cheap hardware components.

There was a time when they chose cheao hardware because it kept costs down. $250 Wii vs $400-500 competitors. $200 launch prices for homes consoles before that, considerably cheaper than most competitor machines, sub-$100 handhelds that killed higher tech competition.

Affordable and durable was what Nintendo was known for. What the hell are they doing? They are putting out cheap hardware with a premium pricetag. They don't seem to understand the current market at all.

Then there is the launch line up. They have a pretty long list of games that arent coming anybtime soon.

The price of the hardware, controllers and games goes completely against the casual market they seem to want back.

This thing does not seem ready for March 3. They are pushing a system out to early for the third time. No games, missing online features...

I bet that the OS is severely undercooked again.
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For the most part yeah.

I'm not willing to call them completely misguided on some fundamental, irreversible level here. But that presentation at the very least was misguided and uninspiring.

They've got a console that's meh, pretty decently priced. When I heard $300, I went to myself "alright, I'm listening." I have some money I saved from the holidays for this very purpose and I was certainly ready to pull the trigger based on that.

Then they proceeded to surround that decently priced console with ridiculously expensive peripherals, an online paywall that offers less than the competitors and a weak-ass launch lineup. Both weak in terms of not many games and a few blah looking games as well (Arms and 1-2 Switch in particular) From both a personal and business perspective here, unless there's more in the tank, or unless I'm just so completely out of step with the casual market, I don't see how the value proposition of the Switch is going to surpass sub-$250 PS4/X1's this holiday season.
 
Nintendo has slowly become some of the most painfully boring and awful salesmen. Like what the fuck happened to them? The pacing of the entire conference was so off and the communication style was so bizarre.

Compare this to something like a Steve Jobs Apple conference and it's fucking embarrassing. How are these guys the face of the company?
 
Haines said:
Loved the conference and the games.

You guys are just doing your typical song and dance like always.

Mario looks amazing and i cant wait for it.
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Could say the same about you? You fanboys are just doing your typical song and dance like always. Mario looked like a Wii U game. In fact all the games had terrible texturing and aliasing.

Interesting Idea for Mario but that's it. The game lineup was poor. The price was mad and the accessory prices and online sub is just fucked.
 
Neonep said:
I asked a few weeks ago about what happens if it bombs and everybody was saying oh there's no way it can bomb.
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It will sell GameCube/OG XBox numbers, at least, but this is going to have a poor launch. The price cut before Christmas 2017 is the easiest prediction that I have ever made.
 
orthodoxy1095 said:
I didn't expect too much from the 3DS pipeline given that there was at least some semblance of a release schedule for the past year. But I expected more from the Wii U teams switching over given that it's been a pretty abysmal year and a half now.
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i suppose being a new system probably means they had to come up to speed
announce to release of most games is usually 2 years

personally id expect 3ish years then but thats just me

not that im trying to excuse the lack of software

just trying to make sense of it
 
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