Sora the Cat
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That's not what he said at all? Why do people misinterpret this things this badly?
Matchmaking isn't a term exclusive to videogame matches ffs
Reggie: Switch matchmaking and lobbies handled through phone app
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That's not what he said at all? Why do people misinterpret this things this badly?
Matchmaking isn't a term exclusive to videogame matches ffs
Movalpolos
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"Doesn't effect me so it isn't a problem".
Take that thought process with you, then apply it to your life. You will lose everything.
This would make perfect sense if inline mic earbuds didn't exist.
Or the console had a microphone like the ds or 3ds has.
My answer isn't sane enough though: Playing BotW on the go is something I simply cannot wait for.
Ditto.
Why would anyone in their right mind want to use their phone to chat while they're playing a game if the system supports headphones with a mic?
I don't give a single fuck about Nintendo charging people to pay games online. My problem is that, for some stupid reason, they're tied simple communication features to that paid service, and you need to use a phone app for something that has absolutely no reason to not run natively on the system. Until they go back on that decision, I'm perfectly fine saying they haven't gotten the bare minimum right, because they haven't, and there isn't a single good reason to make excuses for them.
Hoho for breakfast
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Ok it's all good with me then as long as I don't have to use the app since I have no plans to get it.
Not that it matters anyway since I also have no plans to pay for Nintendos online "service".
7DollarHagane
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That's a separate purchase for some people. Also you don't know that inline mic earbuds don't work with the tablet.
If I can't use one headset for game audio and voice chat then this is a really stupid idea.
Having to get my phone out, plug my ear bud in, start the app and have it running all the time is not more elegant than just connecting my headset directly to the console.
What happens if you have too many apps open? What happens if someone calls you? What happens if your phone goes dead mid game?
This is one of the stupidest ideas ever.
Having to get my phone out, plug my ear bud in, start the app and have it running all the time is not more elegant than just connecting my headset directly to the console.
What happens if you have too many apps open? What happens if someone calls you? What happens if your phone goes dead mid game?
This is one of the stupidest ideas ever.
Dark Cloud
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In conclusion. Nintendo should've already detailed the fucking online from top to bottom. If not, tell Reggie to shut his damn mouth until they're ready to fully talk about it. Because the way he talks makes it sound bad.
ive been saying that since the wiiu launched? still waiting sadly.
The Horror the horror
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HAHAHAHAHA
Agreed.
WhiskerFrisker
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I love whenever something as asinine as this comes up someone always goes "well I never used x feature anyway."
LUHMAO
It remains to be seen whether the friend list can be managed/accessed through the console or if it also requires the app.
Wouldn't be too hard for Nintendo to only allow games to do random matchmaking and then, if you're in a party, all your friends are automatically pulled.
That actually is the only thing unclear here, as they say on the website that the app helps you "connect with friends" and (further below) allows you to "invite friends to play online" (and this one is bundled together with the app exclusive features like voice chat).
Took the words out of my mouth lol
I would be legitimately impressed if Nintendo found a way to program an OS with online that ONLY allows you to matchmake and set up games through a phone and actively prevent games from including friend list matchmaking like MK8 and Splatoon.
I would be frustrated and probably angry as hell, but still impressed.
Dark Cloud
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They never said the price.
And a phone isn't a separate purchase for the same people that don't have inline earbuds?lol
Also, if it does support it, how is the phone a better option then?
Joeshabadoo
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almost assuredly not. you'll still be able to see if your friends are playing and join whatever room theyre in. the stuff that wont be there till summer is creating private party chat lobbies with switch friends and then launching in to a game from there while maintaining a chat channel during play
yes, also agreed, but shame on zombie james
Confused Cheeseburger
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Jesus Reggie, shut up.
Sora the Cat
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Didn't know they announce the price already, how much is it?
Man, that's some strong mental gymnastics.
And aren't phones separate purchase? Phones that in 99% of the time now come with the same inline mic earbuds.....
It's not the entire online service. It's out-of-game matchmaking, lobbies, and dedicated voice chat.
I don't think that's true. If you go to the online services page for the Switch, the first paragraph tells you that the app "helps you connect with friends for online play sessions."
Further down it says that the app will "let you invite friends to play online, set play appointments, and chat with friends during online matches in compatible games─all from your smart device."
This all suggests the app facilitates play with friends, not that it's required. I do think it will be required for chat though.
Schnozberry
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We don't know the price or all the features yet. That's really the problem. Nothing has been demonstrated, so people assume it's clunky and terrible.
Tricky I Shadow
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LOL! Someone please do this!
ShironRedshift
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Hmm? I need to take the Switch with me on a trip? I mean, that's the problem here and where this logic all breaks down. It ain't the headset that's the limiting factor here. If I somehow have space for the Switch where I'm going and can lug it around, it's an easy matter to sling some 'phones around my neck.
Unless we're really going with the "not everyone has headphones" thing. In which case... you know... Not everyone has smartphones? No matter which way you go with this, you run yourself into a hole.
You won't get around them mental gymnastics. Give up while you still can.
I don't see how Nintendo deserves the benefit of the doubt in this situation though. What have they done with their online infrastructure in the past 10 years that would even give people the impression they're going to do the right thing here?
Dark Cloud
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For example, you go to this app and setup "8:00 a.m to play Mario Kart 8 Deluxe on June 15 to friends".
How about you wait and see like the rest of us? They've had a free service for the longest. I'm not going to complain about a free service. The paid service will be free for awhile. You'll get to see if you like it or not before fall. If it sucks then don't get it.
So basically in order for my portable console to work in MP I need another mobile device to get voice chat, matchmaking & so on.
So this means as a parent, if I buy my kid one of these things, I also need to provide another smart device to allow them access to MP?
Wow. Just wow. I eagerly await the confirmation about there being no web browser on Switch after hearing about Netflix.
A mobile device that potentially lacks basic mobile functionality (browser, Netflix app) AND requires a second mobile device for others is a really compelling sales proposition to me as a parent.
So this means as a parent, if I buy my kid one of these things, I also need to provide another smart device to allow them access to MP?
Wow. Just wow. I eagerly await the confirmation about there being no web browser on Switch after hearing about Netflix.
A mobile device that potentially lacks basic mobile functionality (browser, Netflix app) AND requires a second mobile device for others is a really compelling sales proposition to me as a parent.
captain_skyhawk
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What I don't get is that if im going to use my phone why not use a better client like skype over nintendo's for sure half baked system?
airmangataosenai
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The thing is that Nintendo knows there is no breakibg point for the diehard fans. They can forcefeed any shitty service or general annoyance they want into their platforms and charge and there will still be hundreds of thousands of people who will carry water for the decision and continue cheerleading for them just so long as they keep pumping out new Mario and Zelda.
They are the model of hubris.
They are the model of hubris.
SomewhatGroovy
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At first I thought the design choice was made on account of the tablet not being comptable with data plans for on the go but that is negated by wifi spots all over the place.
This is all very bizarre. I think maybe we'll have a better idea once they have the Direct discussing their entire online model.
This is all very bizarre. I think maybe we'll have a better idea once they have the Direct discussing their entire online model.
Godzilla's Left Toe
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They have no headphone jack on the pro controller or the joycon grip
Apparently you can play with random people just fine. But you will need the app if you want to play with friends.
As to why it's not being done through the console, I imagine its because of the joy cons. They can be played in multiple grips and thus make it impractical to plug a headphone jack in it, particularly if some online games will heavily use motion controls such as arms for instance. Furthermore, I think they want to ensure that voice chat stays consistent when transitioning between docked and undocked mode. That and they want to save up on power.
Thinking about it from this perspective, the only real alternative to the app is a bluetooth headset.
It is still stupid but I'm trying to find out why they would even entertain an idea such as this.
As if that's different from any kind of fandom.
People are tripping out over this, but it doesn't seem like that big a deal to me...and i'm not even gonna buy a switch.
We are already accustomed to tethering devices to our mobile phones. Over of the main reasons for doing that is because it minimizes the processing that needs to handled on the peripheral device. Think smart watches.
In the case of the switch, it's primarily used for playing games. But anyone who plans on using it for mobile online multiplayer is probably already carrying a device that's superior for text input and has decent audio capabilities (A cell phone) . Why not tap into that and minimize the drain on the Switch's battery?
We are already accustomed to tethering devices to our mobile phones. Over of the main reasons for doing that is because it minimizes the processing that needs to handled on the peripheral device. Think smart watches.
In the case of the switch, it's primarily used for playing games. But anyone who plans on using it for mobile online multiplayer is probably already carrying a device that's superior for text input and has decent audio capabilities (A cell phone) . Why not tap into that and minimize the drain on the Switch's battery?
unrenowned
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How would you escape all reverb and echo picked up by the phone mic from the Switch speakers without a headset/headphone?
What kind of phone would have such a good mic that it won't pick up a ton of background noise?
Also better bring your phone charger with you if you want to do some on-the-go switch multiplayer.
What kind of phone would have such a good mic that it won't pick up a ton of background noise?
Also better bring your phone charger with you if you want to do some on-the-go switch multiplayer.
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