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[Smiles and Cries]

I think he over played his hand here. Even republicans like Lindsey Graham have told him to investigate or get over it. So when they do investigate and find nothing he's going to look real bad.

they will find something called 'Alternative Facts'

 

[Horns]

Bush commissioned a similar investigation in early 2000s. It turned up nothing.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2007/04/12/washington/12fraud.html

 

[hydrophilic attack]

I thought W was going to be most reviled President in my lifetime.

Guess I was wrong and not even a week!

w led to the 2006 congress democratic wave

here's hoping for something similar in 2018

not holding my breath tho considering the current state of the democrats

 

[Morts]

Sounds like a good excuse for voter suppression laws.

 

[Sou Da]

Bush commissioned a similar investigation in early 2000s. It turned up nothing.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2007/04/12/washington/12fraud.html

Bush wasn't as boldfaced of a liar.

 

[MThanded]

2 states?

Will use this to increase voter suppression.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

this guy can't let go of the fact he lost the popular vote

 

[Altazor]

I think the question still remains why he thinks so many voted illegally. His pew source is redacted. So why commit to an investigation when we have no evidence of what he's saying other than his ego?

because he's so incredibly insecure he has to show he not only won due to a "technicality" (the EC) but also the popular vote. Because he's the best and yuge and nobody has thicker skin than him and more votes than him.

 

[EdibleKnife]

Is this instead of the investigation to Russian influence and/or Trump's violations of the emoluments clause? Or is it because the media, the populace, Dems, Republicans and his own lawyers are like "stop lying."

Investigations into Russian influence or his own violations have a high risk of backfiring on him. He yells about how it's all fake but won't risk people actually looking into it. This though feeds his own ego and his base, stirring up more of his "damned illegals" sentiment and can be manipulated for the sake of voter suppression.

I think the question still remains why he thinks so many voted illegally. His pew source is redacted. So why commit to an investigation when we have no evidence of what he's saying other than his ego?

Because he's fucking bonkers. He knows he has the power to do it and for the sake of his own ego, he will

 

[Mr. Poolman]

This will end in less of you being able to vote.

 

[Keasar]

A alternative investigation I assume?

 

[Carcetti]

Dem voters can stop stressing now about Cenk, Bern, and 'purity'. In 4 years you'll have laws that ensure you don't need to vote at all by disenfranchising any vulnerable groups.

 

[Patryn]

Important to remember that Trump's lawyers argued in court that there was no voter fraud in challenging Stein's recounts.

 

[Altazor]

A alternative investigation I assume?

with alternate results that will end up actually affecting the voting rights of minorities

I'm not even from the US and I'm disgusted with this orange skinned manchild.

 

[Christian]

What I don't understand, if liberals and illegals are so good at voter fraud, why didn't they rig it so they WON?

 

[geomon]

Once again, the President can't just order an investigation to be done. This is not how the fucking government works. If any investigation is to be started about voter fraud, it has to start at the state level since the fucking states run the fucking elections.

 

[Wensih]

It will cost millions just find out it was a handful of cases.

No it will cost million and he'll say the numbers show that there was wide spread voter fraud and try to or say he'll enact measures to restrict Americans right to vote. He wants to win indefinitely.

 

[darkwing]

What I don't understand, if liberals and illegals are so good at voter fraud, why didn't they rig it so they WON?

they won the popular vote though

 

[EdibleKnife]

Important to remember that Trump's lawyers argued in court that there was no voter fraud in challenging Stein's recounts.

If he's ever planning to appear in public or be interviewed in the near future, this is something journalist need to remember and char-grill him on.

 

[Always-honest]

The King of wasting money.
Let's see if he can make this company go bankrupt too.

 

[capitalCORN]

What I don't understand, if liberals and illegals are so good at voter fraud, why didn't they rig it so they WON?

Divine right. Trump was destined in his mind.

 

[Christian]

they won the popular vote though

Which gets you ... nothing.

 

[Jakoo]

Bush commissioned a similar investigation in early 2000s. It turned up nothing.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2007/04/12/washington/12fraud.html

I'm almost OK with re-investigating this to again in 2017 confirm that voter fraud is still mostly a big nothing-burger, assuming that the study is just as unbiased.

Spoiler

It won't be

 

[Joel Was Right]

How does two states equate to "millions" of fraudulent votes?

It's a losing argument for him. Either they find millions voted illegally, and for Hillary, or they find only a small number of votes - which undermine what he believed and told the American people. He would then have to accept that he lost the vote. What does he hope to gain from this?

 

[Altazor]

What I don't understand, if liberals and illegals are so good at voter fraud, why didn't they rig it so they WON?

they tried, tho - but the will of the #MAGA Americans was so strong and yuge, and the voter turnout was so bigly and the best (believe me, everybody says it's the best) that they were able to foil their nefarious plans

 

[Beartruck]

Which gets you ... nothing.

Except the mandate of the people, and as we can see, Trump desperately craves that. The alternative is facing the fact that most people never have and never will like him, and thats crushing for a narcissist.

 

[ClosingADoor]

Maybe he should start a GoFundMe campaign for it. The states should just say no to this.

 

[BigWeather]

He's not targeting two specific states. Rather, people registered in more than one state.

 

[Joel Was Right]

Except the mandate of the people, and as we can see, Trump desperately craves that. The alternative is facing the fact that most people never have and never will like him, and thats crushing for a narcissist.

Which is why I'm surprised he'd even open himself up such a reality. Baffling.

 

[Apdiddy]

If any sort of 'investigation' determines that indeed no voter fraud took place, would Trump accept the results of that investigation? Or like climate change and environmental protections, would he hide it and strike it from public viewing? My feeling is that Trump will use whatever results to have stricter voter ID laws, increase voter suppression of minorities and immigrants, and have fewer polls open.

This is some scary shit. We went from a democratically elected leader to a third world dictator in a week.

 

[SporeCrawler]

So democrats be prepared not to be able to vote next time due to procedural hurdles

If any sort of 'investigation' determines that indeed no voter fraud took place, would Trump accept the results of that investigation? Or like climate change and environmental protections, would he hide it and strike it from public viewing? My feeling is that Trump will use whatever results to have stricter voter ID laws, increase voter suppression of minorities and immigrants, and have fewer polls open.

This is some scary shit. We went from a democratically elected leader to a third world dictator in a week.

He will have altenate facts

 

[MThanded]

That tweet is very specific. He talked about people who haven't been purged from the voter registration database but not those who are dead and did vote. So they are intentionally lowering the bar.

VRA is over

 

[Ushojax]

I'm sure he'll get right on it, right after he launches that investigation into Hillary's emails.

 

[Keasar]

with alternate results that will end up actually affecting the voting rights of minorities

I'm not even from the US and I'm disgusted with this orange skinned manchild.

Yeah, that is what I am afraid is probably gonna happen.

The rotten orange peel with pubes for hair is gonna get the result, think they are false, get another investigation going, get same result, claim they are still false, hire a shitty "research" company that the GOP/FOX/right wing likes and do another "investigation" where he finally gets the result of "millions of voter fraud cases, all of them done by minorities!"

Que lost voting rights for anyone non-white or much harder circumstances to vote.

 

[CrispyBoar]

Infant. Why did they start letting him use twitter again? Isn't an unlocked phone insanely dangerous for the president to use?

Either that, or he uses a computer. Either way, it exposes him as a manbaby.

 

[Oare]

This increasingly feels like something they're going to lie about and use to create voter suppression laws.

And as an added bonus, his staff will find conclusive proof that Trump was in fact ahead in popular vote.

 

[_Ryo_]

If he finds a single case, he'll say it was massive voter fraud and suppress voters regardless.

 

[j_k_redtail]

He's been distracted. Today he was supposed to talk about immigration, but the negative stories about his Congressional meeting got under his skin. So now, this. Expect this kind of thing for the next four years.

 

[Copenap]

Either they will make sure to find what they want to find or spin whatever is found as to proving their lies.

 

[Man-is-Obsolete]

It will cost millions just find out it was a handful of cases.

Or this will happen.

This increasingly feels like something they're going to lie about and use to create voter suppression laws.

 

[Log4Girlz]

He's going to multiply each instance of voter fraud literally by a million

 

[The Silver]

And as an added bonus, his staff will find conclusive proof that Trump was in fact ahead in popular vote.

Will they be using alternative math?

 

[EdibleKnife]

And as an added bonus, his staff will find conclusive proof that Trump was in fact ahead in popular vote.

The Gaslighting of the USA

Trump's already not popular on the world stage and looking more and more like a dictator is going to make more of the civilized world leaders just not hold back on their disgust and contempt. He's primed to basically make enemies of everyone if he continues to abuse his power in and outside of America for pathetic, self-satisfactory reasons like this.

He's going to multiply each instance of voter fraud literally by a million

"If even one person voted illegally, then our system needs an overhaul and I propose invalidating the votes of these illegal-filled states by X% for every future election."

 

[Kusagari]

He's going to alternate the results to provide proof to try to push through massive voter restrictions.

This country is fucked.

 

[-Plasma Reus-]

Do you believe they will tell the truth regarding the results? They will change the results to match their narrative.

This will end up with less americans being able to vote.

 

[Napoleonthechimp]

God damn this man. He's a fucking evil bastard... no two ways about it.

You've elected an egomaniac into power.

 

[Doc Holliday]

Here we go!

This was the plan from the beginning....

He will come up with a fraud case, thanks to Sessions... Voter ID will go national. BOOM! 8 years of this fucker.


This is beyond fucked up.

 

[PopeReal]

I still feel like a good portion of America doesn't even give a shit about this or any other recent events. They seem to still think it is business in usual. I don't know how we get them to care. Protests appear to irritate them far more than a quick news story on how they are losing their rights.

 

[BeforeU]

Gotta find those alternate facts

 

[III-V]

depending on the alternative results

ftfy