Take Two CEO "Nintendo is making a 'great effort' to support 3rd parties on Switch"

jmizzal said:
I dont think Nintendo banned them, I think a lot of them are in the same boat as Nintendo didnt want to talk about games and marketing stuff for Switch during the holidays.

remember Lego City got announced for Switch

But games like Fifa, Skyrim remaster and NBA 2K17 are out now, if they announce them now they think they will lose holiday sells for people waiting on the Switch version.

Obvious exclusives they def dont want to announce early becouse you want the buzz to start with the system announcement.
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Oh, come on. Skyrim and NBA 2k17 have been in announcement video. If the third parties had some issue related to holiday sales they wouldn't have allowed them to be in that video. FIFA is selling constantly well all around the year, again not a big issue if another platform comes out in March.

It would have laughable if Lego City would have been announced for PS4 and Xbone and not for Switch. It would have created a lot of negativity instead. That's why I think they were allowed to announce it.
 
Coming from TAKE-TWO boss Strauss Zelnick...

"We're excited about Switch we're supporting Switch with NBA 2K18, we've said we're supporting it long form. We've said over and over again that when Nintendo comes to market you never want to count them out. So we're excited about it, but the only thing we can announce is the basketball title."

Sounds like Take-Two has more up their sleeve when it comes to Switch. I'm guessing we'll hear about something come E3.
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(via http://gonintendo.com/stories/273537-take-two-says-they-re-supporting-the-switch-long-form)

Original link with ads that to me are slightly NSFW, just FYI - closed it quickly but seems Daily Star's ads are not something I wanted up on my screen: http://www.dailystar.co.uk/tech/gam...demption-Nintendo-Switch-Take-Two-Interactive

Does this give more fuel to the LA Noire and related rumors?
 
Shaanyboi said:
PR means fuck-all until there's something to back it up. "Unprecedented partnership."
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"Unprecedented partnership" happened 1.5 years prior to the release of the Wii U, not less than one month before. I don't think he would make this comment if there weren't more games planned for release.
 
zelas said:
Maybe Nintendo fans haven't commented because they are finally learning that PR speak really is just PR speak.
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Nintendo fans are never going to heed the warning that 'those who ignore the past are doomed to repeat it', this is the WiiU launch all over again.

radcliff said:
"Unprecedented partnership" happened 1.5 years prior to the release of the Wii U, not less than one month before. I don't think he would make this comment if there weren't more games planned for release.
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So a time period that could have resulted in games versus a meaningless bit of PR guff a month before the release of the console?
 
radcliff said:
"Unprecedented partnership" happened 1.5 years prior to the release of the Wii U, not less than one month before. I don't think he would make this comment if there weren't more games planned for release.
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Most hardware is usually given more than 1.5 months to unveil their launch line-up, price, and upcoming software library. Hell, fucking Bethesda couldn't even commit to announcing Skyrim until last month's event. Everyone is still in hype cycle "Oh yeah, we're all in" mode.
 
Busty said:
So a time period that could have resulted in games versus a meaningless bit of PR guff a month before the release of the console?
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Meaning there was obviously a falling out between Nintendo and EA sometime during that 1.5 year gap between "unprecedented partnership" and the Wii U's release. We are less than a month from the Switch's release; I don't think there will be any sudden fallouts unless Switch tanks at launch.
 
I am sure this has been said but Nintendo, with its hardware design decisions, has alienated third parties once again. Don't expect big AAA games coming to the Switch- even if it's a big success. If it isn't a big success they won't even take a second look at it.

The quote tells you everything.

"Nintendo is great but too different so we are going to take a wait and see attitude"
 
TheExecutive said:
I am sure this has been said but Nintendo, with its hardware design decisions, has alienated third parties once again. Don't expect big AAA games coming to the Switch- even if it's a big success. If it isn't a big success they won't even take a second look at it.

The quote tells you everything.

"Nintendo is great but too different so we are going to take a wait and see attitude"
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...um who actually said that though? Just you?

Edit: nevermind, misread- I thought you were saying "the following quote (which I bolded) tells you everything."
 
I think it indicates Take Two has more than NBA planned which is good but as always it will depend on how everything performs.

I imagine WWE is probably going to get a release.
 
Skittzo0413 said:
...um who actually said that though? Just you?
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It's exactly what was meant by that quote. He is stating they are great but they don't have anything planned.

Its the same thing that happenned the last 3 generations with Nintendo. Lots of speaking out of both sides their mouths. Talk up Nintendo but throw no money at development.
 
TheExecutive said:
It's exactly what was meant by that quote. He is stating they are great but they don't have anything planned.

Its the same thing that happenned the last 3 generations with Nintendo. Lots of speaking out of both sides their mouths. Talk up Nintendo but throw no money at development.
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Except they already announced NBA2K18, read just a few posts above yours. They're also heavily rumored to be releasing the LA Noire remaster on it. And just made a comment about supporting it long term...

More announcements wouldn't hurt though.
 
i kinda find it funny how a lot of devs and pubs are saying this, but then refuse to talk about what they're actually going to do about it. ubisoft has basically said "you can have some of our old games and steep, now shut up" while at the same time announcing the likes of for honor won't be seeing the light of day on the system.

EA are saying they're going to support the consoles and only release fifa, rumoured to be the last gen version with specific swith features, but no battlefield, no mirrors edge, no titanfall etc.

i feel like i'm just seeing a lot of devs say what wants to be heard, but reality is they're doing the vary bare minimum without burning bridges on the off chance the switch is some worldwide phenomena of a success. if people like take two where legitimately excited about the prospect of the switch, they'd be saying RDR2 will be releasing day 1 on switch, or that there will be a GTAV port coming.
 
I feel like the same stuff gets said every launch. But nothing ever comes of it. Maybe an initial half hearted push.

For all of Nintendo's efforts, there hasn't been anything announced that's significant until fall and that's skyrim.
 
Skittzo0413 said:
Except they already announced NBA2K18, read just a few posts above yours. They're also heavily rumored to be releasing the LA Noire remaster on it. And just made a comment about supporting it long term...

More announcements wouldn't hurt though.
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Its not unusual to put really shitty ports of sports games on Nintendo platforms. That isn't really supporting in my eyes its just an easy port to make.
 
That's promising - I hope they bring games that make sense to the Switch. Stuff like Titanfall / R6 only really make sense on PC but I'd kill for portable GTA V.
 
radcliff said:
"Unprecedented partnership" happened 1.5 years prior to the release of the Wii U, not less than one month before. I don't think he would make this comment if there weren't more games planned for release.
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If you want to take his comments at face value then fine, but do you not understand why other people would be extremely cynical given what happened with software support for the Wii and Wii U?!
 
radcliff said:
Meaning there was obviously a falling out between Nintendo and EA sometime during that 1.5 year gap between "unprecedented partnership" and the Wii U's release. We are less than a month from the Switch's release; I don't think there will be any sudden fallouts unless Switch tanks at launch.
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How can you possibly say this? You assert that there was this falling out between EA and Nintendo and then suggest everything will be fine and dandy with Take Two?

Even if Take Two were to invest heavily in the Switch given how this announcement is a month before its release how long do you think we'll have to wait before any games emerge from it?
 
Lol I understand being skeptical, but why does every positive thing said by 3rd parties lead to so much malice. Jesus relax. He was asked a question, he answered it. Wtf do you want him to say? You rather him say negative things about the platform?

It was recently revealed that Nintendo just revealed the Switch to 3rd parties a little over half a year ago at e3. Revealed. If there are any major 3rd party games in development for Switch, you were never going to see them at the reveal. If anything, e317 will be where you will find out how 3rd party support is really looking on Switch. I know people like to form conclusions soley based on the past, but there is something called nuance, every generation is different, the circumstances are diffent, the platform is different.

As for the people stating that the Switch is yet another system that is hard to dev for, this just shows me, clear as day, that you're speaking on something you likely have little to no information about. There has litterally been zero developers to say this. None. Zilch. We do however have devs praising how easy it was to get their games up and running on the platform, and how strong Nintendo's support has been.
 
TheExecutive said:
Its not unusual to put really shitty ports of sports games on Nintendo platforms. That isn't really supporting in my eyes its just an easy port to make.
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You just said they don't have anything planned, and I proved you wrong. Moving goalposts aside, how about we judge support after maybe 6 months to see if this is the same song and dance as Wii U.

I'm not trying to predict it either way, just showing you that you made an incorrect statement.
 
Discokuningas said:
Positive news. So.. not really suprised that nobody is commenting it.
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Most Nintendo fans have been burned by these kinds of promises before, so approaching news like this with some prudence instead of proclaiming a return to the NES days in terms of third party support seems like good advice.

The proof of the pudding is in the eating. I'm sure people will be more than happy to eat crow if it means that the Switch is being taken seriously by the big publishers and will get significant third party support, including marquee games from western developers.
 
Well, tbf, NBA 2K has been among the featured games in multiple switch commercials, and from a quick Google search, it looks like take-two didn't do the whole pr spin to any significant degree with the wiiu
 
NBA2k18 is coming out the same day as the Xbox one and PS4 versions that's pretty good support to me so far.

GTA on a main console even if it's a port(V) would be huge for Nintendo. I could see them putting Bully 2 or a new IP on the system instead though. They're hesitant with GTA for some reason.
 
This will not be a thing more than supportive of talk. The only way the switch to get a port if it was equal level to the ps4 and Xbox one. Because it will be easier to port to switch. But to dedicate a device need new resources and unless this fly like the Wii did, it's not gonna happen
 
If Take Two is really interested in developing games for the Nintendo platform, they need to release the sort of games that resonate with the audience Nintendo is deliberately targeting with their console. Grand Theft Auto V will sell just fine despite the platform it's on because the name will sell itself. But if Take Two truly wants to widen their portfolio by including the future Switch userbase as part of their constant revenue stream, then they have to take a risk and export an IP with Nintendo's demographic predominately in mind. Bully would be good (an immature kid doing immature shit), something like a Conkers would be nice, as well. Any game that is tongue-in-cheek to the Nintendo crowd, same as GTA is to the PS/XB audience.
 
Same bullshit every generation. If this is true, then where the fuck is the western 3rd party support? It's absolutely nonexistent. Actions speak louder than words.
 
I'm not doubting the fact that they're looking to acquire 3rd party intrest, I just doubt that it'll be as accumulative as predicted... It's not a secret that Nintendo's architecture isn't the most accommodating - I also heard (last-gen) that a few 3rd parties who did work with Nintendo said it was a chore. For example the language barrier, time differences made it it difficult to coordinate, and most importantly troubleshooting... It's gotta be hard when devs/engineers aren't on site to help out - anyway, just saying...
 
Hahs said:
I'm not doubting the fact that they're looking to acquire 3rd party intrest, I just doubt that it'll be as accumulative as predicted... It's not a secret that Nintendo's architecture isn't the most accommodating - I also heard (last-gen) that a few 3rd parties who did work with Nintendo said it was chore. For example the language barrier, time differences made it it difficult to coordinate, and most importantly troubleshooting... It's gotta ne hard when devs/engineers aren't on site to help out - anyway, just saying...
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This isn't their last-gen architecture, though. We've heard nothing but good things about ease of development on the Switch.

It would be nice if Nintendo used their Nvidia partnership to help out western devs more. That may already be the case, but I don't know.
 
KORNdoggy said:
i kinda find it funny how a lot of devs and pubs are saying this, but then refuse to talk about what they're actually going to do about it. ubisoft has basically said "you can have some of our old games and steep, now shut up" while at the same time announcing the likes of for honor won't be seeing the light of day on the system.

EA are saying they're going to support the consoles and only release fifa, rumoured to be the last gen version with specific swith features, but no battlefield, no mirrors edge, no titanfall etc.

i feel like i'm just seeing a lot of devs say what wants to be heard, but reality is they're doing the vary bare minimum without burning bridges on the off chance the switch is some worldwide phenomena of a success. if people like take two where legitimately excited about the prospect of the switch, they'd be saying RDR2 will be releasing day 1 on switch, or that there will be a GTAV port coming.
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We have rumours about AC, Mario Rabbids and Beyond Good and Evil from Ubi (plus Steep, Just Dance and Rayman), and where that comes from, there will be more, if the console sells. Probably the same for the others. Naturally they want to know if the console does a few numbers before they announce too much. Better than promising certain games which won't happen, if the console bombs.

If Switch sells there will be support, that's good enough for me to know. And after what Take Two said i think they planned at least another game for Switch beyond NBA.

@Fifa: Like you said that's rumours, we don't know which version it will get.
 
maxcriden said:
(via http://gonintendo.com/stories/273537-take-two-says-they-re-supporting-the-switch-long-form)

Original link with ads that to me are slightly NSFW, just FYI - closed it quickly but seems Daily Star's ads are not something I wanted up on my screen: http://www.dailystar.co.uk/tech/gam...demption-Nintendo-Switch-Take-Two-Interactive

Does this give more fuel to the LA Noire and related rumors?
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I'm sorry to rain in the parade, but thinking of making a thread about it last night, I went to T2's site, heard the call where this came from myself, and could swear he actually says "the platform", not " long form". Since that's easily what gives the quote most of it's interest to Ninty fans, well, if it's indeed "platform" it's no more commitment than your usual Wait And See If It Sells. On mobile so I don't have the link to the call at hand, but you can easily find it in T2's site; and his answer, I recall, comes at 39:52.
 
Crazyorloco said:
NBA2k18 is coming out the same day as the Xbox one and PS4 versions that's pretty good support to me so far.

GTA on a main console even if it's a port(V) would be huge for Nintendo. I could see them putting Bully 2 or a new IP on the system instead though. They're hesitant with GTA for some reason.
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Reckless speculation: pretty much everyone who owns a Nintendo console and wants to play GTA also owns another console and already owns GTA. The revenue potential probably just isn't there. You'd have your double dippers for portability but that's about it.
 
Haunted said:
Most Nintendo fans have been burned by these kinds of promises before, so approaching news like this with some prudence instead of proclaiming a return to the NES days in terms of third party support seems like good advice.

The proof of the pudding is in the eating. I'm sure people will be more than happy to eat crow if it means that the Switch is being taken seriously by the big publishers and will get significant third party support, including marquee games from western developers.
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Not that I think we should trust that they are gonna support the platform. I just find it funny that people are stating this is just pr talk and shouldn't be trusted but every negative thing is immediatly thought to be absolut truth even if its rumour or we don't know the full picture. Switch gaf is just full of jumping to (mostly negative) coclusions.
 
DonShula said:
Reckless speculation: pretty much everyone who owns a Nintendo console and wants to play GTA also owns another console and already owns GTA. The revenue potential probably just isn't there. You'd have your double dippers for portability but that's about it.
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I think most people would prefer a portable GTA5 over the LA Noire remaster or than NBA game. GTA5 is still selling big numbers.
 
Busty said:
Nintendo fans are never going to heed the warning that 'those who ignore the past are doomed to repeat it', this is the WiiU launch all over again.
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Nice quote..but the problem is you are fixated on the past while completely ignoring the present. Iwata is no longer with us and Kimishima is clearly running the company differently. Nintendo releasing sleek modern hardware that doesn't resemble a child's toy..who would have believed this a few years ago? Also..I think you are completely wrong when you say this is WiiU 'all over again'. The facts say otherwise: There is way more hype for this product than Wii U ever had. Additionally, the situation with 3rd parties is very different as well. So far there are like what 50+ developers who have pledged support? Wii U never had that. Period. Time will tell how good 3rd party support ends up being, but so far things are definitely better.
 
TwilightPrincess said:
We have rumours about AC, Mario Rabbids and Beyond Good and Evil from Ubi (plus Steep, Just Dance and Rayman), and where that comes from, there will be more, if the console sells. Probably the same for the others. Naturally they want to know if the console does a few numbers before they announce too much. Better than promising certain games which won't happen, if the console bombs.

If Switch sells there will be support, that's good enough for me to know. And after what Take Two said i think they planned at least another game for Switch beyond NBA.

@Fifa: Like you said that's rumours, we don't know which version it will get.
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then it's major deja vu imo. for a console to succeed you need third party support, but to get third party support they need a userbase big enough to warrant that support. ubi, EA, take two, bethesda, FROM etc need to show their hand, otherwise history is just going to repeat itself. but because of that history i just can't imagine a world where you can play GTAV or 6, RDR2, the latest battlefield, COD, AC, dark souls etc on a nintendo machine that also needs to break away into a 720p mode for portability. seems like a lot of optimization that a lot of devs seem opposed to doing even on PS4 and xbox.

i'd love to see nintendo get proper third party support, but currently it's all hollow promises. the games we are getting from them feel like them dipping their toe in the water with the easier, oldest game they can dig up to test the waters. but we all know what happens with that approach. 7 year old game doesn't sell well, because duh, it's 7 years old!... and they read that as a market uninterested in their wares...it's a backwards way of doing things. but it seems they're opposed to just saying. "yo, ghost recon wildlands is coming to switch alongside the PS4 and xbox version" it would give them a better idea of market interest than rayman legends...again.
 
TAS said:


Nice quote..but the problem is you are fixated on the past while completely ignoring the present. Iwata is no longer with us and Kimishima is clearly running the company differently.
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How do you know which of the two is mainly responsible for anything we've seen of the Switch thus far? For all you know, all of this can be credited to Iwata.
 
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