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[KO Traveling Hobo]

Sure, and that should be condemned as well.

But people are using that as an excuse to ignore everything else and try to sweep it under the rug.

Reminds me of BUT THE EMAILS.

I'm confused. You say "sure" to my post positing that the WSJ's behavior is more problematic, then compare it to BUT THE EMAILS - the rallying cry of people pointing to something relatively insignificant to obfuscate far greater problems.

That..

Didn't oppose anything the poster said.

Tagyhag claimed "That shouldn't be what people focus about this whole debacle", then implied that what we should focus on is Pewdiepie's behavior, which I then disagreed with.

 

[Doffen]

Sure, and that should be condemned as well.

But people are using that as an excuse to ignore everything else and try to sweep it under the rug.

Reminds me of BUT THE EMAILS.

"BUT THE JOKE" looks more like "BUT THE EMAILS" from another angle.

 

[Majine]

He must've known that hanging with Disney meant signing away part of your your creative freedom, especially if you're an edgy memelord.

But h3 is right in that context is key, and WSJ chose to instead misrepresent him again. That's where the majority of my minor outrage lies in all of this. Not the stupid joke.

 

[Tinfoilhatsron]

I'm confused. You say "sure" to my post positing that the WSJ's behavior is more problematic, then compare it to BUT THE EMAILS - the rallying cry of people pointing to something relatively insignificant to obfuscate far greater problems.



Tagyhag claimed "That shouldn't be what people focus about this whole debacle", then implied that what we should focus on is Pewdiepie's behavior, which I then disagreed with.

I interpreted that as saying it shouldn't be the sole focus. Tagyhag states that the other end of the spectrum shouldn't be ignored.

 

[Tagyhag]

I'm confused. You say "sure" to my post positing that the WSJ's behavior is more problematic, then compare it to BUT THE EMAILS - the rallying cry of people pointing to something relatively insignificant to obfuscate far greater problems.

"BUT THE JOKE" looks more like "BUT THE EMAILS" from another angle.

Sorry, to be perfectly clear, I think both areas are important problems that should be addressed.

We can disagree on which one deserves the more pressing attention.

 

[The Wart]

Do people really endorse the idea that jokes about killing Jews, in an age of rising bigotry and white supremacy, should be treated like just any other tasteless attempt at provocative humor? You cannot put statements about eradicating an ethnic group on the same moral plane as Jackass and sharts.

Does he harbor a seething hatred of all Jewish people? Probably not, but that's not saying much. He is sufficiently indifferent to the dangers faced by minorities that he considers their mass murder acceptable material for his shitty shock jock routines. He is anti-semetic in the same way that Trump voters who have muslim and gay friends are racist and homophobic. Idiocy and myopia do not absolve anyone of moral responsibility.

 

[janoDX]

Do people really endorse the idea that jokes about killing Jews, in an age of rising bigotry and white supremacy, should be treated like just any other tasteless attempt at provocative humor? You cannot put statements about eradicating an ethnic group on the same moral plane as Jackass and sharts.

Does he harbor a seething hatred of all Jewish people? Probably not, but that's not saying much. He is sufficiently indifferent to the dangers faced by minorities that he considers their mass murder acceptable material for his shitty shock jock routines. He is anti-semetic in the same way that Trump voters who have muslim and gay friends are racist and homophobic. Idiocy and myopia do not absolve anyone of moral responsibility.

WATCH. THE. VIDEO.

 

[Bgamer90]

Do people really endorse the idea that jokes about killing Jews, in an age of rising bigotry and white supremacy, should be treated like just any other tasteless attempt at provocative humor? You cannot put statements about eradicating an ethnic group on the same moral plane as Jackass and sharts.

Yeah -- these jokes are bad either way but saying them during this tense time simply shows that a person doesn't have a high level of caring about other people.

 

[Armaros]

WATCH. THE. VIDEO.

NOT. A. VALID. EXCUSE,

 

[KO Traveling Hobo]

I interpreted that as saying it shouldn't be the sole focus. Tagyhag states that the other end of the spectrum shouldn't be ignored.

Sorry, to be perfectly clear, I think both areas are important problems that should be addressed.

We can disagree on which one deserves the more pressing attention.

Fair enough. I definitely agree that Disney should kick Pewdiepie to the curb, and that he should really think about who his audience is, and the broader context in which his messages are being broadcast.

I just think it's alarming how many people are barely raising an eyebrow at the fact that a respectable news source decided to shit out a garbage article casually and indirectly accusing an individual of believing that all of the believers of a certain faith are subhuman and should be rounded up and slaughtered. And tons of people just ate that right up without a second thought.

This is in the context of a world that is seeing the very concepts of news and truth come under relentless attack by the alt-right and other would-be fascists - including the president of the United States. This kind of thing is not okay, and it's not just the responsibility of respectable news sources to not be lazy pieces of shit, but also on us as individuals to consume news more responsibly.

 

[Aztechnology]

Do people really endorse the idea that jokes about killing Jews, in an age of rising bigotry and white supremacy, should be treated like just any other tasteless attempt at provocative humor? You cannot put statements about eradicating an ethnic group on the same moral plane as Jackass and sharts.

Does he harbor a seething hatred of all Jewish people? Probably not, but that's not saying much. He is sufficiently indifferent to the dangers faced by minorities that he considers their mass murder acceptable material for his shitty shock jock routines. He is anti-semetic in the same way that Trump voters who have muslim and gay friends are racist and homophobic. Idiocy and myopia do not absolve anyone of moral responsibility.

Sorry just out of curiosity did you actually watch any of PDP's videos that lead to this. Have you done any research into the usage an context of his actions. Or are you just stating that regardless of what he did/said these are the rules you believe apply to all speech regardless of context? I assume you also view comedians like Louis C.K as racist, homophobic etc too then?

The first thing I did when hearing about this was make a concerted effort to find whatever videos and information I could as I do not watch PDP to get a full picture. I completely understand Disney dropping him, as they felt it was in their best interest to do based on the value he provided. It was purely a business decision. However, labeling him as an anti-Semite I think is a bridge too far.

 

[SaniOYOYOY]

NOT. A. VALID. EXCUSE,

excuse of? him making joke of the jews? where his friend literally a jew and said he has no problem with the joke? along with god know how many jew from his subscriber?

PDP himself addressed that he indeed went way beyond the line and apology , on the same video

Jesus, even Ethan(h3h3) said to stop getting offended for people who isnt offended.

 

[cackhyena]

Gross.

 

[Tinfoilhatsron]

Sorry just out of curiosity did you actually watch any of PDP's videos that lead to this. Have you done any research into the usage an context of his actions. Or are you just stating that regardless of what he did/said these are the rules you believe apply to all speech regardless of context? I assume you also view comedians like Louis C.K as racist, homophobic etc too then?

Let's be honest here. Louis C.K. has rarely done satire where he was shocked that he went through with said satire piece. On the rare occasion he says something so fucked up, he admits that he personally said something fucked that he shouldn't have. Even during his own routine.

I agree with you that context matters though.

 

[Alienfan]

"it's a jooooookkkkeeee"... Yep, thanks H3h3, the holocaust and hitler are hilarious material to be drawing from. But coming from a guy who thinks Feminism is dumb and made a MTV hate white people video I'm not surprised.

Pewdiepie has been making "jokes" in poor taste for years, this is nothing new, the headlines might be wrong in calling him anti-semetic, but YouTube removing him from premium ads and Disney dropping him make sense. And fuck off with the Walt Disney was a racist decades ago, this is 2017, not 1950, what a dumb strawman. Comedians aren't absolved from criticism

 

[janoDX]

NOT. A. VALID. EXCUSE,

"Not a valid excuse right?"

They all share in common that Maker is in the right of cut ties with PDP, his content is not for children anymore and doesn't represent Disney's view (and I wouldn't be surprised we see more YT's cut from Maker) but all the media, all the views from some fucktards who never research, are standing on the wrong.

Hell some of the "goofs" PDP made were shit, but shit jokes, still on the joke camp, and people get offended, people don't give a shit, but after watching the original videos, you would understand where they come from.

People just have so little attention span is incredible, they see PDP in a nazi outfit but they see that and not the entire picture, making fun of the media calling him a facist and even mentioning that before and after that scene. And it's funny how the reaction of some people when they get wronged about "pewdiepie is an antisemitist, he's a piece of crap!" then they go full defense and try to find the most insignificant thing to justify their stuff.

It's the Trump effect, there's facts on the people faces and then they go full "WRONG because WRONG".

Like I said, it's a job for the media and people to research before doing conclusions, specially the media where some of them study for 5-6 years to become a journalist and do anything for clicks even destroy a public figure.

And don't get me started on the "NORMALIZATION OF HATE SPEECH", when in a lot of statements PDP said that he's against all of that ffs.

Fuck it, I'm hitting bed, if you still want to argue, DM me, I don't care, I'm out.

 

[SZips]

excuse of? him making joke of the jews? where his friend literally a jew and said he has no problem with the joke? along with god know how many jew from his subscriber?

PDP himself addressed that he indeed went way beyond the line and apology , on the same video

Jesus, even Ethan(h3h3) said to stop getting offended for people who isnt offended.

Ah, the old "well, I'm a ______, and I'm not offended at (thing), so it's totally okay!" crap.

Ethan is in no way unbiased in this. He also largely ignored a huge issue with this and it's the normalizing of certain hate speech. It's also a big load of bullshit that people are defending PDP's actions because it was all a joke! Context matters! Blah, blah blah.

This entire damn thread is just running around in circles now. Edit: Just as the nearly identical thread about this is going around in circles.

 

[paperspace]

"it's a jooooookkkkeeee"... Yep, thanks H3h3, the holocaust and hitler are hilarious material to be drawing from. But coming from a guy who thinks Feminism is dumb and made a MTV hate white people video I'm not surprised.

Pewdiepie has been making "jokes" in poor taste for years, this is nothing new, the headlines might be wrong in calling him anti-semetic, but YouTube removing him from premium ads and Disney dropping him make sense. And fuck off with the Walt Disney was a racist decades ago, this is 2017, not 1950, what a dumb strawman. Comedians aren't absolved from criticism

The part about Walt Disney was clearly a joke.

 

[KZXcellent]

I think Phillip DeFranco handled this topic a lot better than H3H3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzEt8U3Of2k - He discusses it for the first 6.5 minutes of the video.

 

[flintstryker]

"it's a jooooookkkkeeee"... Yep, thanks H3h3, the holocaust and hitler are hilarious material to be drawing from. But coming from a guy who thinks Feminism is dumb and made a MTV hate white people video I'm not surprised.

Pewdiepie has been making "jokes" in poor taste for years, this is nothing new, the headlines might be wrong in calling him anti-semetic, but YouTube removing him from premium ads and Disney dropping him make sense. And fuck off with the Walt Disney was a racist decades ago, this is 2017, not 1950, what a dumb strawman. Comedians aren't absolved from criticism

As a black as fuck man that MTV video was absolute garbage, Ethan was right to slag on them

 

[SaniOYOYOY]

Ah, the old "well, I'm a ______, and I'm not offended at (thing), so it's totally okay!" crap.

Ethan is in no way unbiased in this. He also largely ignored a huge issue with this and it's the normalizing of certain hate speech. It's also a big load of bullshit that people are defending PDP's actions because it was all a joke! Context matters! Blah, blah blah.

This entire damn thread is just running around in circles now. Edit: Just as the nearly identical thread about this is going around in circles.

this crap will keep on spinnin no matter what anyway.
defending hate speech because it was a joke.. really? did he encourage people to "kill all jew" like that? dude its like people lose ability to digest joke. crappy joke but a joke nonetheless

I think Phillip DeFranco handled this topic a lot better than H3H3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzEt8U3Of2k - He discusses it for the first 6.5 minutes of the video.

this is "unbiased" alright imho

 

[KZXcellent]

"it's a jooooookkkkeeee"... Yep, thanks H3h3, the holocaust and hitler are hilarious material to be drawing from. But coming from a guy who thinks Feminism is dumb and made a MTV hate white people video I'm not surprised.

Pewdiepie has been making "jokes" in poor taste for years, this is nothing new, the headlines might be wrong in calling him anti-semetic, but YouTube removing him from premium ads and Disney dropping him make sense. And fuck off with the Walt Disney was a racist decades ago, this is 2017, not 1950, what a dumb strawman. Comedians aren't absolved from criticism

Are you actually defending the MTV video? Cause I don't see how anyone could see that as anything but garbage. Of course people are gonna goof on it.

 

[Trident]

As a Jew, I appreciate that people are concerned for me, but this outrage seems like absolute nonsense.

 

[SZips]

this crap will keep on spinnin no matter what anyway.
defending hate speech because it was a joke.. really? did he encourage people to "kill all jew" like that? dude its like people lose ability to digest joke. crappy joke but a joke nonetheless

Pulling out the "just a joke" card isn't some automatic "get out of jail free card" for hate speech, harmful actions, violence stemming from hate, etc. I'm not sure what world you're living in, but that really hasn't ever worked.

Howdy neighbor, I just ran over your dog repeatedly. With a steamroller. Nine times even! Good thing it's just a joke! I said it was a joke so you totally can't get mad!

It's a defense people use because they know they fucked up. They know that what they did was fucked up. And those that defend others with the "just a joke, learn how to take a joke" are just as bad. They're enabling this kind of crap to continue, to be normalized and no, it's not okay. Maybe after doing his "joke" the eight times prior, he might have realized it was a bad idea to do it a ninth time.

Maybe when he was called out for his constantly screaming "rape" in his videos, he'd have realized it was a bad idea.

Maybe after he pulled a song about rape from his channel after he uploaded it, he'd have learned a lesson to not continue those joke attempts.

Maybe after he was banned from Twitter for saying he was going to join Isis, that maybe he'd have realized it was a bad idea.

But he didn't. He continued. Either he's one of the world's dumbest self-made multi-millionaire entrepreneurs out there or maybe, just maybe, that crap that he's saying is actually how he feels. But he can go ahead and get away with it because people will always jump onto weak but old standby of "but it was totally just a joke, bruh" defense.

 

[Jangowuzhere]

If the joke was funny, then I doubt there would be this much backlash. Even with context, the entire thing is just fucking lame.

I think the outrage and general reactions to this news is shitty, but PewDiePie basically brought this on himself. If you make yourself an easy target for news organizations like this, this ends up being the result.

 

[KO Traveling Hobo]

Pulling out the "just a joke" card isn't some automatic "get out of jail free card" for hate speech, harmful actions, violence stemming from hate, etc. I'm not sure what world you're living in, but that really hasn't ever worked.

Howdy neighbor, I just ran over your dog repeatedly. With a steamroller. Nine times even! Good thing it's just a joke! I said it was a joke so you totally can't get mad!

It's a defense people use because they know they fucked up. They know that what they did was fucked up. And those that defend others with the "just a joke, learn how to take a joke" are just as bad. They're enabling this kind of crap to continue, to be normalized and no, it's not okay. Maybe after doing his "joke" the eight times prior, he might have realized it was a bad idea to do it a ninth time.

Maybe when he was called out for his constantly screaming "rape" in his videos, he'd have realized it was a bad idea.

Maybe after he pulled a song about rape from his channel after he uploaded it, he'd have learned a lesson to not continue those joke attempts.

Maybe after he was banned from Twitter for saying he was going to join Isis, that maybe he'd have realized it was a bad idea.

But he didn't. He continued. Either he's one of the world's dumbest self-made multi-millionaire entrepreneurs out there or maybe, just maybe, that crap that he's saying is actually how he feels. But he can go ahead and get away with it because people will always jump onto weak but old standby of "but it was totally just a joke, bruh" defense.

So now we're back to "Pewdiepie literally wants to exterminate all people of the Jewish faith". Excellent.

 

[TakeItSlowDude]

Pulling out the "just a joke" card isn't some automatic "get out of jail free card" for hate speech, harmful actions, violence stemming from hate, etc. I'm not sure what world you're living in, but that really hasn't ever worked.

Howdy neighbor, I just ran over your dog repeatedly. With a steamroller. Nine times even! Good thing it's just a joke! I said it was a joke so you totally can't get mad!

It's a defense people use because they know they fucked up. They know that what they did was fucked up. And those that defend others with the "just a joke, learn how to take a joke" are just as bad. They're enabling this kind of crap to continue, to be normalized and no, it's not okay. Maybe after doing his "joke" the eight times prior, he might have realized it was a bad idea to do it a ninth time.

Maybe when he was called out for his constantly screaming "rape" in his videos, he'd have realized it was a bad idea.

Maybe after he pulled a song about rape from his channel after he uploaded it, he'd have learned a lesson to not continue those joke attempts.

Maybe after he was banned from Twitter for saying he was going to join Isis, that maybe he'd have realized it was a bad idea.

But he didn't. He continued. Either he's one of the world's dumbest self-made multi-millionaire entrepreneurs out there or maybe, just maybe, that crap that he's saying is actually how he feels. But he can go ahead and get away with it because people will always jump onto weak but old standby of "but it was totally just a joke, bruh" defense.

Are you saying PewDiePie killed a dog with a steamroller?

 

[SZips]

So now we're back to "Pewdiepie literally wants to exterminate all people of the Jewish faith". Excellent.

Yeah, because I typed those exact words. Fuck off.

 

[jack_package_200]

If the joke was funny, then I doubt there would be this much backlash. Even with context, the entire thing is just fucking lame.

This is where I am at. He isn't a racist. He's an edgelord. Probably a dumbass as well. He is just as immature as his audience of 12 year olds. I can't imagine the thought process and lack of common sense in thinking this would both go over well and be funny.

 

[KO Traveling Hobo]

Yeah, because I typed those exact words. Fuck off.

That is exactly what is implied by "that crap that he's saying is actually how he feels". Unless you actually meant that he literally wants to join a terrorist group dedicated to destabilizing western society. Not as heinous, but perhaps even more bizarre.

 

[depths20XX]

Yeah, because I typed those exact words. Fuck off.

It's exactly what you implied.

 

[Claude Augario]

Being an edgelord rarely pays off.

 

[AESplusF]

Yeah, because I typed those exact words. Fuck off.

What exactly did you mean by that then?

 

[SZips]

That is exactly what is implied by "that crap that he's saying is actually how he feels". Unless you actually meant that he literally wants to join a terrorist group dedicated to destabilizing western society. Not as heinous, but perhaps even more bizarre.

That's a pretty big stretch there. Fine, in the more general sense: he's anti-Semitic, or at the very least part of him harbors those feelings/thoughts. Perhaps that's easier for you to understand, or are you going to reach for some deeper meaning again?

If nothing else, this and the other thread have been great for filtering out the people that will so quickly come to the aid of people who spread hate.

 

[chromatic9]

"Not a valid excuse right?"

They all share in common that Maker is in the right of cut ties with PDP, his content is not for children anymore and doesn't represent Disney's view (and I wouldn't be surprised we see more YT's cut from Maker) but all the media, all the views from some fucktards who never research, are standing on the wrong.

Hell some of the "goofs" PDP made were shit, but shit jokes, still on the joke camp, and people get offended, people don't give a shit, but after watching the original videos, you would understand where they come from.

People just have so little attention span is incredible, they see PDP in a nazi outfit but they see that and not the entire picture, making fun of the media calling him a facist and even mentioning that before and after that scene. And it's funny how the reaction of some people when they get wronged about "pewdiepie is an antisemitist, he's a piece of crap!" then they go full defense and try to find the most insignificant thing to justify their stuff.

It's the Trump effect, there's facts on the people faces and then they go full "WRONG because WRONG".

Like I said, it's a job for the media and people to research before doing conclusions, specially the media where some of them study for 5-6 years to become a journalist and do anything for clicks even destroy a public figure.

And don't get me started on the "NORMALIZATION OF HATE SPEECH", when in a lot of statements PDP said that he's against all of that ffs.

Fuck it, I'm hitting bed, if you still want to argue, DM me, I don't care, I'm out.

I've read through both threads. Most agree he isn't anti-Semitic and are aware of the context of the video or there is context to be had. h3h3 could make a 100 videos explaining the joke and who it's aimed at and how he's not offended but what people don't like is someone who has reportedly an audience mostly of young teens, dressing up in Nazi uniform, paying others to hold a certain message in a tongue in cheek manner, a crass low base humour way. They see it as trivializing to a young audience.

 

[Maximo]

That's a pretty big stretch there. Fine, in the more general sense: he's anti-Semitic. Perhaps that's easier for you to understand, or are you going to reach for some deeper meaning again?

If nothing else, this and the other thread have been great for filtering out the people that will so quickly come to the aid of people who spread hate.

 

[HellofaMouse]

Whether or not he is a racist is irrelevant in my opinion.

He did a shitty thing and he is paying for it, simple as that..

Hate speech is toxic, and it shouldnt be included in freedom of speech. We should supervise tgis stuff, not elect presidents that promote it

 

[Trident]

That's a pretty big stretch there. Fine, in the more general sense: he's anti-Semitic, or at the very least part of him harbors those feelings/thoughts. Perhaps that's easier for you to understand, or are you going to reach for some deeper meaning again?

If nothing else, this and the other thread have been great for filtering out the people that will so quickly come to the aid of people who spread hate.

What on earth indicated that he's anti Semitic?

 

[AESplusF]

That's a pretty big stretch there. Fine, in the more general sense: he's anti-Semitic, or at the very least part of him harbors those feelings/thoughts. Perhaps that's easier for you to understand, or are you going to reach for some deeper meaning again?

If nothing else, this and the other thread have been great for filtering out the people that will so quickly come to the aid of people who spread hate.

He's an edgelord at most, did you even see the videos in question? because it doesn't sound like you have.
He's not spreading hate, we're simply defending him from people who are so quick to make baseless assumptions using big words that are becoming more and more meaningless every time you open your mouths.

 

[KZXcellent]

To me, Pewdiepie is a guy who made a stupid joke that isn't something that can be defended. I won't say "It's okay cause it's a joke" because that doesn't excuse it. It's a stupid thing to joke about and it wasn't even funny. I got no yuck yucks from this. I can't fault YouTube or Maker for responding the way they did.

That said WSJ's reporting of the story by taking it out of context to make him look even worse seems pretty bad to me. People also using this to just call him a bigot and hope for the end of his career seem to be going too far. He made a dumb joke and suffered some consequences for it. I don't think this is in any way comparable to say, the Mel Gibson controversy.

tl;dr I don't think Pewdiepie is racist, I think he's an idiot that got a major wake up call this week. I have no doubt he'll learn from this.

 

[KO Traveling Hobo]

That's a pretty big stretch there. Fine, in the more general sense: he's anti-Semitic, or at the very least part of him harbors those feelings/thoughts. Perhaps that's easier for you to understand, or are you going to reach for some deeper meaning again?

If nothing else, this and the other thread have been great for filtering out the people that will so quickly come to the aid of people who spread hate.

I stretched nothing. You made a silly, hyperbolic statement without thinking through its logical conclusion.

It's fine to make dumb posts, everybody has their moments, but don't tell someone to fuck off when they call you on it.

 

[Vinnk]

excuse of? him making joke of the jews? where his friend literally a jew and said he has no problem with the joke?

Oh. Then it's ok. A Jewish person has said he's OK with this.

Thread over guys. Shut it down.




Yes, those calling him a Nazi are obviously overreacting. I've seen so much worse on YouTube.

But it's still not nothing. Jokes about killing Jews shouldn't be normalized so much when he has legions of impressionable viewers. I know he is not choosing to be a role model, but the reality is that he is one. And when you have sponsors, there are consequences to words. Sometimes the people who pay the bills don't like what you are doing, even if your Jewish friend is OK with it.

 

[shintoki]

Whether or not he is a racist is irrelevant in my opinion.

He did a shitty thing and he is paying for it, simple as that..

While not being racist, but anti-Semitic. You're correct. It's no different than Kramer's meltdown at the club show, but at least he could argue he was on stage and it was a heat of the moment. This on the other hand was planned, filmed, and idiotically posted.

His personal feelings have nothing to do with the actual actions being said. It was a dumbass joke that shouldn't be said while he was still trying to be Mr. Edgelord. It was said. How he actually feels doesn't matter.

And to the people complaining why it's blowing up, one of the biggest people on Youtube filmed himself doing something stupid and now is facing the repercussions. No shit it's going to blow up. Why should it be any different for him than say Trump, Gibson, Parker, etc.

 

[AESplusF]

To me, Pewdiepie is a guy who made a stupid joke that isn't something that can be defended. I won't say "It's okay cause it's a joke" because that doesn't excuse it. It's a stupid thing to joke about and it wasn't even funny. I got no yuck yucks from this. I can't fault YouTube or Maker for responding the way they did.

That said WSJ's reporting of the story by taking it out of context to make him look even worse seems pretty bad to me. People also using this to just call him a bigot and hope for the end of his career seem to be going too far. He made a dumb joke and suffered some consequences for it. I don't think this is in any way comparable to say, the Mel Gibson controversy.

tl;dr I don't think Pewdiepie is racist, I think he's an idiot that got a major wake up call this week. I have no doubt he'll learn from this.

I'm kind of surprised he had a deal with Disney in the first place he makes edgy jokes all of the time.

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

To me, Pewdiepie is a guy who made a stupid joke that isn't something that can be defended. I won't say "It's okay cause it's a joke" because that doesn't excuse it. It's a stupid thing to joke about and it wasn't even funny. I got no yuck yucks from this. I can't fault YouTube or Maker for responding the way they did.

That said WSJ's reporting of the story by taking it out of context to make him look even worse seems pretty bad to me. People also using this to just call him a bigot and hope for the end of his career seem to be going too far. He made a dumb joke and suffered some consequences for it. I don't think this is in any way comparable to say, the Mel Gibson controversy.

tl;dr I don't think Pewdiepie is racist, I think he's an idiot that got a major wake up call this week. I have no doubt he'll learn from this.

Eh, I doubt he'll learn anything. He still has money, and legions of fans that will stick up for him no matter what he does.

He'll probably get another offer eventually and keep his wonderful satire to a minimum

 

[KZXcellent]

I'm kind of surprised he had a deal with Disney in the first place he makes edgy jokes all of the time.

He was partnered with Maker Studios which is a YouTube network. At some point they were bought by Disney.

Eh, I doubt he'll learn anything. He still has money, and legions of fans that will stick up for him no matter what he does.

He'll probably get another offer eventually and keep his wonderful satire to a minimum

I mean, back in the day his videos used to make jokes about rape. He has since stopped that kind of behavior and talked about how those old videos are embarrassing to him. Obviously it doesn't say that much since here he is now being criticized over offensive shit he's said again but history has shown that he course corrects and learns from old mistakes. I found his old content much more screwed up and immature.

You could end up being right in that he just ignores this, gets a new network and keeps on trucking but given his past I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

 

[chromatic9]

I'm kind of surprised he had a deal with Disney in the first place he makes edgy jokes all of the time.

True. PDP has been with Maker network since 2012 and Disney bought them in Dec 2015. For the last year and a few months he's been on a tightrope he shouldn't be on in my view but Disney went in looking for views and he was the jewel in the Maker deal and I think wrongly overlooked his previous content. Obviously Disney draw the line somewhere and PDP crossed it recently.

 

[Jpop]

excuse of? him making joke of the jews? where his friend literally a jew and said he has no problem with the joke? along with god know how many jew from his subscriber?

PDP himself addressed that he indeed went way beyond the line and apology , on the same video

Jesus, even Ethan(h3h3) said to stop getting offended for people who isnt offended.

Hey, I have a black friend insert racist jokes since he doesn't care

Hint: Even if his friend doesn't care the jokes aren't funny, they aren't in good nature and they are down right offensive.

 

[Gattsu25]

WATCH. THE. VIDEO.

Eh?

I watched the video. I then unsubscribed from the channel way back in January :\

What exactly is watching the video going to provide? Evidence that his brand of "edgy" humor is poorly executed and that he fucked up.

 

[Killer Queen]

Honestly
I agree with H3H3
I'm not a PewDiePie fan and the only one of his videos I've seen is his joint one with H3H3 but that's really not something to get riled up over.