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[perfectchaos007]

Wow, if the credible WallStreet Journal is running a story that he's antisemetic, it must be true. WSJ isn't fake news like Fox. Disney and Youtube Red did the only thing they could have done in this situation, which is to sever ties with an alleged anti Semite

 

[Conkerkid11]

Honestly
I agree with H3H3
I'm not a PewDiePie fan and the only one of his videos I've seen is his joint one with H3H3 but that's really not something to get riled up over.

Oh damn, was waiting for him to respond to this. Gonna have to watch that when I get back from work.

Assuming he's sided with Pew? He's had about three videos with him as far as I can remember, one where I think Pew even visits him and Hila at their home in LA. He's also been rather opposed to YouTube's decisions in the past.

I've only seen the video PewDiePie posted of those laughing guys actually following through with his request, and I thought it was funny, though that's largely because I've only ever seen Tyrone.

Edit: Also, I saw some people posting earlier saying he doesn't get ads anymore, but I checked, and he most certainly does. I'm assuming he's just locked out of some bigger ad thing YouTube had for him.

 

[Pathfinder]

Even after watching the defense videos, I hardly think Disney and YouTube Red made snap judgements. I'll give them both the benefit of the doubt and say they looked over the situation, took in evidence, and then came to their respective decisions.

 

[Gotdatmoney]

The guy used to joke about rape. The guy is now joking about killing jews. He is just a youtube personality saying really stupid shit for viewership. Does he believe any of what he is saying? I honestly don't care, whether he does or doesn't because does not absolve him of responsibility for his actions.

Did he deserve to lose sponsors? Imo yeah. People have lost sponsorships for far far more benign things. Does he deserve to have his name misrepresented? No, sources have to report on facts, not just pick and choose to make a quick buck. Do I actually feel bad for him though? No, play a stupid game, win a stupid prize.

If all you wanna do is make distasteful jokes for money and viewership I do not understand why anyone should sympathize with you when it goes too far and blows up in your face. Can you not be funny without making kill jew jokes? Your viewing audience should not have to jump through a bunch of hoops to understand the intricate context behind your jokes about jews. I find this defense so stupid.

Say whatever you wanna say. But when the consequences appear I don't see why the sympathies need to be everflowing. And no the guy is not a Nazi. Such an overeaction.

 

[KZXcellent]

Even after watching the defense videos, I hardly think Disney and YouTube Red made snap judgements. I'll give them both the benefit of the doubt and say they looked over the situation, took in evidence, and then came to their respective decisions.

They did the natural thing and I can't fault them for that. It would have reflected badly on them if they didn't do anything about this. The dude deserves some blowback for this.

 

[depths20XX]

Wow, if the credible WallStreet Journal is running a story that he's antisemetic, it must be true.

You're supposed to put the troll sentence at the end of the message dude.

 

[Killer Queen]

Oh damn, was waiting for him to respond to this. Gonna have to watch that when I get back from work.

Assuming he's sided with Pew? He's had about three videos with him as far as I can remember, one where I think Pew even visits him and Hila at their home in LA.

I've only seen the video PewDiePie posted of those laughing guys actually following through with his request, and I thought it was funny, though that's largely because I've only ever seen Tyrone.

H3H3's point was that: While he did tell people to say "Kill all the jews" he did it to prove a point that people would do a lot of stupid things for $5 and that was really it. He wasn't actually being anti semetic but making a point by being extreme. WSJ then took this and another one of his videos out of context to "prove" that he's an anti semite, because they took the fact that he did tell people to say "kill all the jews" while removing the context of why he told them to do it.

They also took another one of his videos in which he satirizes himself as a Nazi to say that "this is what people think I am and thats stupid" and then WSJ just took the part where he pretends to be a nazi while once again removing all the context.

and then you come into this thread and have people calling him a nazi and an anti semite without actually taking the time to look into what he actually said or did.

I mean yeah it was stupid and I can see why Disney would pull support considering their family friendly image. But this is one of the few times I'd agree that this is manufactured outrage over nothing.

 

[Conkerkid11]

They did the natural thing and I can't fault them for that. It would have reflected badly on them if they didn't do anything about this. The dude deserves some blowback for this.

Eh... I don't think most people even knew Disney had anything to do with him, or that these videos even existed until all this news brought it up.

Like others have said, he used to be a lot worse when he was originally starting off, and even partnering with him in the first place was a bad move.

 

[janoDX]

It came to my attention yesterday that some have been pointing to my videos and saying that I am giving credibility to the anti-Semitic movement, and my fans are part of it as well for watching. I don’t want to cite the sources because I don’t want to give them any more attention.

This originated from a video I made a couple of weeks ago. I was trying to show how crazy the modern world is, specifically some of the services available online. I picked something that seemed absurd to me—That people on Fiverr would say anything for 5 dollars.

I think it’s important to say something and I want to make one thing clear: I am in no way supporting any kind of hateful attitudes.

I make videos for my audience. I think of the content that I create as entertainment, and not a place for any serious political commentary. I know my audience understand that and that is why they come to my channel. Though this was not my intention, I understand that these jokes were ultimately offensive.

As laughable as it is to believe that I might actually endorse these people, to anyone unsure on my standpoint regarding hate-based groups: No, I don’t support these people in any way.

Thanks for reading.

This was two days ago. Just to make things clear

 

[KZXcellent]

Eh... I don't think most people even knew Disney had anything to do with him, or that these videos even existed until all this news brought it up.

Like others have said, he used to be a lot worse when he was originally starting off, and even partnering with him in the first place was a bad move.

Well Disney bought Maker which is where he was partnered so there's that. The fallout of them not acting on this could have looked bad. Wouldn't be surprised if nothing happened that journos would make articles saying "Disney supports Pewdiepie's actions" or some nonsense. It was a risk.

 

[Vinnk]

Well Disney bought Maker which is where he was partnered so there's that. The fallout of them not acting on this could have looked bad. Wouldn't be surprised if nothing happened that journos would make articles saying "Disney supports Pewdiepie's actions" or some nonsense. It was a risk.

Yeah it was the NYT bringing this to their attention and the fear of it being written of that lighted this tinderbox.

 

[KO Traveling Hobo]

The guy used to joke about rape. The guy is now joking about killing jews. He is just a youtube personality saying really stupid shit for viewership. Does he believe any of what he is saying? I honestly don't care, whether he does or doesn't because does not absolve him of responsibility for his actions.

Did he deserve to lose sponsors? Imo yeah. People have lost sponsorships for far far more benign things. Does he deserve to have his name misrepresented? No, sources have to report on facts, not just pick and choose to make a quick buck. Do I actually feel bad for him though? No, play a stupid game, win a stupid prize.

If all you wanna do is make distasteful jokes for money and viewership I do not understand why anyone should sympathize with you when it goes too far and blows up in your face. Can you not be funny without making kill jew jokes? Your viewing audience should not have to jump through a bunch of hoops to understand the intricate context behind your jokes about jews. I find this defense so stupid.

Say whatever you wanna say. But when the consequences appear I don't see why the sympathies need to be everflowing. And no the guy is not a Nazi. Such an overeaction.

Yep. I think the way news agencies have represented this story is a bigger bag of fuckery than what PDP did, but I have a hard time feeling too bad for him.

I will nitpick, though, and say that I don't think the fans are jumping through hoops to understand the intricate context of the jokes. Fans of PDP surely know his sense of humor intuitively. It's everyone else that is put in a situation where they have to reel back their kneejerk reaction to the outrageous content, and view the situation more rationally.

 

[Gotdatmoney]

Yep. I think the way news agencies have represented this story is a bigger bag of fuckery than what PDP did, but I have a hard time feeling too bad for him.

I will nitpick, though, and say that I don't think the fans are jumping through hoops to understand the intricate context of the jokes. Fans of PDP surely know his sense of humor intuitively. It's everyone else that is put in a situation where they have to reel back their kneejerk reaction to the outrageous content, and view the situation more rationally.

Well I don't particularly care what his hardcore fans think. I'm more saying that as someone who knows who he is but doesn't actively follow, I shouldn't need to go through a bunch of videos just to kind of justify what is ultimately just a really fucking stupid unnecessary act. I don't consider that an actual valid defense.

He does not need to create content with dumb bullshit like that. He is free to do it however. But then the casual observers are also free to judge him based off the fact that "this is fucking stupid regardless of the reason he provides" which is how I personally feel.

But he isn't antisemetic. I think the bar for that accusation is much higher than what has been done here. I do think he likes to play games with this stuff purely for money however and that is not someone worth losing sleep over.

 

[Conkerkid11]

Yep. I think the way news agencies have represented this story is a bigger bag of fuckery than what PDP did, but I have a hard time feeling too bad for him.

I will nitpick, though, and say that I don't think the fans are jumping through hoops to understand the intricate context of the jokes. Fans of PDP surely know his sense of humor intuitively. It's everyone else that is put in a situation where they have to reel back their kneejerk reaction to the outrageous content, and view the situation more rationally.

Doesn't help that most of GAF, or people in general, already largely disliked PewDiePie. Seeing this happen to him, regardless of the reason why, is likely a good thing in their eyes.

Did people see h3h3's interview with iDubbbz? I thought that was worse than this.

 

[Nanashrew]

This was two days ago. Just to make things clear

I've probably brought it up in this thread before, but he half-assed it. He says he doesn't do serious commentary but if the videos are a social commentary he is producing, he ignored the politics at play. Which was utterly careless and that apathy made for terrible jokes that offended people. It made legitimate white supremacists praise his recent content.

And I get that he doesn't support those kinds of people or support those beliefs, but he still made these actions which also emboldened real scumbags, and makes it seem okay to make some of these kinds of jokes without a second thought.

He doesn't really say anything in his tumblr post, just that he understands his audience. And that is a sad excuse for an apology if it even is one.

 

[The Wart]

Sorry just out of curiosity did you actually watch any of PDP's videos that lead to this. Have you done any research into the usage an context of his actions. Or are you just stating that regardless of what he did/said these are the rules you believe apply to all speech regardless of context? I assume you also view comedians like Louis C.K as racist, homophobic etc too then?

The first thing I did when hearing about this was make a concerted effort to find whatever videos and information I could as I do not watch PDP to get a full picture. I completely understand Disney dropping him, as they felt it was in their best interest to do based on the value he provided. It was purely a business decision. However, labeling him as an anti-Semite I think is a bridge too far.

I've watched the WSJ video and the H3H3's video. Maybe I am missing some nuance here, but yeah, it seems like a dumb shock jock schtick. It looks to me like he invokes antisemetic imagery "for the lulz". And yeah, I think that's a bad thing to do.

In the case of Lois CK, shock value is a very small part of his routines. He may start by saying that sounds bigoted, but he then goes on to highlight the absurdity and tragedy of bigotry. He does not make bigoted statements and then simply gawk at having made them.

Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuNIBfkTPsM&feature=youtu.be&t=3m25s
He spends the first three minutes doing a mocking impression of a spoiled girlfriend, which is itself an obnoxious stereotype. I was cringing at that point. Then he pivots to explicitly acknowledge the sexism of that impression and dig into the origins of it. The joke is not sexism; the joke is the tragedy that sexism is deeply embedded in the human experience.

In any case, I don't think PDP is an intrinsically, irredeemably hateful person who must be banished from society. I do acknowledge that some people probably are saying that, or heavily implying it, and that this is an overreaction that should be contested. I do think PDP has thoughtlessly indulged in casual bigotry in a way that many, if not all, human beings do at some point in their lives, and that right now it is very important to push back against that sort of behavior. I realize my original post probably sounded a bit shriller than that.

I hope that clarifies my perspective. And for what it's worth, I also think that GAF OT has become disturbingly hivemindey and unable to engage with dissenting viewpoints in a productive way.

 

[KO Traveling Hobo]

Well I don't particularly care what his hardcore fans think. I'm more saying that as someone who knows who he is but doesn't actively follow, I shouldn't need to go through a bunch of videos just to kind of justify what is ultimately just a really fucking stupid unnecessary act. I don't consider that an actual valid defense.

He does not need to create content with dumb bullshit like that. He is free to do it however. But then the casual observers are also free to judge him based off the fact that "this is fucking stupid regardless of the reason he provides" which is how I personally feel.

But he isn't antisemetic. I think the bar for that accusation is much higher than what has been done here. I do think he likes to play games with this stuff purely for money however and that is not someone worth losing sleep over.

Agreed.

Doesn't help that most of GAF, or people in general, already largely disliked PewDiePie. Seeing this happen to him, regardless of the reason why, is likely a good thing in their eyes.

Yeah. Honestly, I've always had an irrational distaste for PDP - probably because I'm a piece of shit hipster - but there are a lot of posts in this thread that seem almost grateful to hear him accused of antisemitism because it justifies them not liking his videos.

 

[Conan-san]

The BBC ran this story on thier 6 o'clock news and you could almost feel Old Media just getting thier punches in on the way out.

 

[Conkerkid11]

Hey guys, just found out idubbbz is with Maker as well. Just in case you were wondering what kind of people they partner with.

This is a huuuuuge knee jerk reaction from them.

 

[Surface of Me]

Honestly
I agree with H3H3
I'm not a PewDiePie fan and the only one of his videos I've seen is his joint one with H3H3 but that's really not something to get riled up over.

Yeah I just watched his video on this whole thing and pretty much agree. You can see in the first few pages of this thread people only reading the headline and knee jerking it. WSJ are super scummy in my eyes now.

 

[Ratrat]

Hey guys, just found out idubbbz is with Maker as well. Just in case you were wondering what kind of people they partner with.

This is a huuuuuge knee jerk reaction from them.

Uhuh....
If even that. He routinely does much worse and is known for it.

 

[The Wart]

H3H3's point was that: While he did tell people to say "Kill all the jews" he did it to prove a point that people would do a lot of stupid things for $5 and that was really it. He wasn't actually being anti semetic but making a point by being extreme. WSJ then took this and another one of his videos out of context to "prove" that he's an anti semite, because they took the fact that he did tell people to say "kill all the jews" while removing the context of why he told them to do it.

You could swap out "saying 'kill all the jews'" with, for instance, shitting your pants in public and the joke would be pretty much the same. When this is the case, your social commentary sucks. The implication becomes that anti-semitic statements are on the same level as basic grossness or rudeness. That implication may not be intended, but that's what people mean when they say it normalizes hate speech.

 

[MUnited83]

Hey guys, just found out idubbbz is with Maker as well. Just in case you were wondering what kind of people they partner with.

This is a huuuuuge knee jerk reaction from them.

I've just looked into it and JonTron belongs to Polaris, which is a sub-network from Maker too.
Hopefully they start applying the standard and drop JonTron too, because oh boy is JonTron a much, much, much bigger piece of shit than PewDiePie is.

 

[DontMindMe]

I've just looked into it and JonTron belongs to Polaris, which is a sub-network from Maker too.
Hopefully they start applying the standard and drop JonTron too, because oh boy is JonTron a much, much, much bigger piece of shit than PewDiePie is.

But JonTron keeps it out of his videos?

 

[Trident]

Even after watching the defense videos, I hardly think Disney and YouTube Red made snap judgements. I'll give them both the benefit of the doubt and say they looked over the situation, took in evidence, and then came to their respective decisions.

Yes, it's important to give people the benefit of the doubt...

 

[MUnited83]

But JonTron keeps it out of his videos?

Sure, but he tweets his bullshit under the JonTron brand, pumping out his bullshit to almost 2 million followers.

 

[DontMindMe]

Sure, but he tweets his bullshit under the JonTron brand, pumping out his bullshit to almost 2 million followers.

Yeah that's a fair point.

 

[BBQMan]

h3h3 nailed it. Nothing but bullshit articles and a fucking load of shit taken out of context.

 

[TLZ]

Yeah I just watched his video on this whole thing and pretty much agree. You can see in the first few pages of this thread people only reading the headline and knee jerking it. WSJ are super scummy in my eyes now.

Oh no this can't be true, can it? This never ever happens on neogaf!

Even after watching the defense videos, I hardly think Disney and YouTube Red made snap judgements. I'll give them both the benefit of the doubt and say they looked over the situation, took in evidence, and then came to their respective decisions.

There's also kneejerk reactions and reputations.

 

[TLZ]

Dp.

 

[chrizzz09]

WSJ posted a sensationalist article with a clickbait title that has caused many people - as this thread exemplifies - to accuse Pewdiepie of being antisemitic. Do you understand the gravity of a label like that?

That is far more problematic, in my opinion, than the dumb edgy humor of a youtuber who got famous off of horrible rape jokes in the first place.

This right here.

To even think that we as a society came to a point, in which we just accept this new form of "journalism" where "news outlets" keep spouting click bait titles, writing sensationalist articles and skewing the puplic opinion just for clicks. That's the real problem here.

I mean, we have come to a point where we can't rely on the reporting of the media and have to find the source material ourselves and do research so we can build a factual based opinion. Then what's the point of media anymore? <--

Spoiler

Sensationalist and provocative sentence right there

What's with their responsibility of informing millions of people about important issues, their responsibility as the "Fourth Estate"? Do we just accept that media outlets can literally destroy careers of some people with their irresponsible headlines and articles, just for their greed for clicks and ad money?

 

[excelsiorlef]

I mean the end result is he still paid for some non English speakers to say Deaths to All Jews for the lolz, posted it and his reaction for the lolz....

 

[Mr_ZaaZ]

H3H3's point was that: While he did tell people to say "Kill all the jews" he did it to prove a point that people would do a lot of stupid things for $5 and that was really it. He wasn't actually being anti semetic but making a point by being extreme. WSJ then took this and another one of his videos out of context to "prove" that he's an anti semite, because they took the fact that he did tell people to say "kill all the jews" while removing the context of why he told them to do it.

They also took another one of his videos in which he satirizes himself as a Nazi to say that "this is what people think I am and thats stupid" and then WSJ just took the part where he pretends to be a nazi while once again removing all the context.

and then you come into this thread and have people calling him a nazi and an anti semite without actually taking the time to look into what he actually said or did.

I mean yeah it was stupid and I can see why Disney would pull support considering their family friendly image. But this is one of the few times I'd agree that this is manufactured outrage over nothing.

100% agree with this and h3h3's video. PDP is not an anti-semite and anyone who believes that needs to look up real anti-semites. It really is just manufactured outrage. Luckily it won't affect PDP that much but I feel sorry for the people who worked on PDPs YT Red show. One more reason to not blindly trust the MSM.

 

[Matt]

This right here.

To even think that we as a society came to a point, in which we just accept this new form of "journalism" where "news outlets" keep spouting click bait titles, writing sensationalist articles and skewing the puplic opinion just for clicks. That's the real problem here.

I mean, we have come to a point where we can't rely on the reporting of the media and have to find the source material ourselves and do research so we can build a factual based opinion. Then what's the point of media anymore? <--

Spoiler

Sensationalist and provocative sentence right there

What's with their responsibility of informing millions of people about important issues, their responsibility as the "4th power of the state"? Do we just accept that media outlets can literally destroy careers of some people with their irresponsible headlines and articles, just for their greed for clicks and ad money?

It's "the Fourth Estate."

 

[Karish]

100% agree with this and h3h3's video. PDP is not an anti-semite and anyone who believes that needs to look up real anti-semites. It really is just manufactured outrage. Luckily it won't affect PDP that much but I feel sorry for the people who worked on PDPs YT Red show. One more reason to not blindly trust the MSM.

Maybe he's not an anti Semite but he certainly has some sort of preoccupation with Jews / anti-Semitism. Can't really see how you can disagree when he's had 9 videos with questionable content in the last 6 months

 

[akira28]

h3h3 nailed it. Nothing but bullshit articles and a fucking load of shit taken out of context.

isn;'t h3h3 financially invested and has a serious incentive to want this to all go away?

anyway, kill the jews jokes are so 20th century. PDP has jumped its shark and needs to cooperate. Dismantle your organization pewdie. Even you don't want to be here anymore.

I mean the end result is he still paid for some non English speakers to say Deaths to All Jews for the lolz, posted it and his reaction for the lolz....

comedy gold mine. Kid's gonna go far. He's got the juice. A passion for what he's doing, and a new market just waiting to be capitalized on.

 

[TLZ]

100% agree with this and h3h3's video. PDP is not an anti-semite and anyone who believes that needs to look up real anti-semites. It really is just manufactured outrage. Luckily it won't affect PDP that much but I feel sorry for the people who worked on PDPs YT Red show. One more reason to not blindly trust the MSM.

He wants Jews dead and has Hebrew subtitles in his videos.

Maybe he's not an anti Semite but he certainly has some sort of preoccupation with Jews / anti-Semitism. Can't really see how you can disagree when he's had 9 videos with questionable content in the last 6 months

Have you watched every single one of them from start to finish?

 

[Nick]

The last PewDiePie thread I got dragged for calling this guy a shit-bag for all of the other terrible shit he's pulled in the past. These anti-semitic jokes are the icing on a shit-cake that includes jokes about rape and that awful stunt he pulled a few months ago threatening to "delete" his account if it reached a certain milestone in subscribers. Oh yeah, and using the N-word.

 

[Christhor]

Maybe he's not an anti Semite but he certainly has some sort of preoccupation with Jews / anti-Semitism. Can't really see how you can disagree when he's had 9 videos with questionable content in the last 6 months

Post the clips with context.

 

[KO Traveling Hobo]

100% agree with this and h3h3's video. PDP is not an anti-semite and anyone who believes that needs to look up real anti-semites. It really is just manufactured outrage. Luckily it won't affect PDP that much but I feel sorry for the people who worked on PDPs YT Red show. One more reason to not blindly trust the MSM.

What's really tragic is that MSM is still leagues ahead of shit like Infowars and Breitbart which are encroaching on public consciousness. That's why I think it's critical that well-respected news sources don't pull shit like this, because otherwise the alt-right wins and facts become irrelevant.

Maybe he's not an anti Semite but he certainly has some sort of preoccupation with Jews / anti-Semitism. Can't really see how you can disagree when he's had 9 videos with questionable content in the last 6 months

He's posted 71 videos posted in the last 60 days. Nine videos in the past six months, several of which are calling other people nazis - including Trump supporters! - is really not that significant.

 

[spazchicken]

I know this doesn't have anything to do with anything but wasn't Disney himself sort of a Nazi sympathizer of sorts?

 

[Deleted member 10571]

Screw this defense force. If the literally FIRST thing your mind comes up when questioned "How can I make a great joke about these idiots doing anything for five bucks" is "Alright, It's gotta be "Kill all jews" and implying it on another youtuber, aw yes!" you fucking earned this mess and you are out of your mind.

 

[chrizzz09]

It's "the Fourth Estate."

Thanks, fixed it.

Spoiler

Sorry English is not my native language :/

 

[AudioEppa]

h3h3 nailed it. Nothing but bullshit articles and a fucking load of shit taken out of context.

Yep. And I knew of h3h3, but never watched any of his videos. I think might subscribe now. And I'm not even some huge fan of Felix. I may have watched a handful of the content over the years. But this shit is beyond ridiculous. At the same time I understand Disney feeling like his material doesn't suit them, which is totally fine. But this will not damage PDP's career. All it has done is highlighted certain outlets for what they really are. Their content views in a year is the amount some youtubers get in a week or day. By next month PDP will still be getting millions of views and the same media outlets will still be growling from the sidelines.

 

[Wolfgang Jr]

He's one of the biggest celebs in the world. He just wanted to see how far he could go.

 

[excelsiorlef]

Yep. And I knew of h3h3, but never watched any of his videos. I think might subscribe now. And I'm not even some huge fan of Felix. I may have watched a handful of the content over the years. But this shit is beyond ridiculous. At the same time I understand Disney feeling like his material doesn't suit them, which is totally fine. But this will not damage PDP's career. All it has done is highlighted certain outlets for what they really are. Their content views in a year is the amount some youtuber get in a week or day. By next month PDP will still be getting millions of views and the same media outlets will still going to be growling from the sidelines.

Yes I am sure Forbes and the WSJ are just jealous of PDP's hits...


In the end just that one video where he paid those folks to say Anti-Semitic shit for the lolz should be enough to warrant this heat...

 

[Christhor]

Yes I am sure Forbes and the WSJ are just jealous of PDP's hits...


In the end just that one video where he paid those folks to say Anti-Semitic shit for the lolz should be enough to warrant this heat...

In the end what Forbes and WSJ is doing will just make millions of fans of Pewdiepie's more critical to media than they've been in the past. Which I guess is a good thing?

 

[Aztechnology]

I've watched the WSJ video and the H3H3's video. Maybe I am missing some nuance here, but yeah, it seems like a dumb shock jock schtick. It looks to me like he invokes antisemetic imagery "for the lulz". And yeah, I think that's a bad thing to do.

In the case of Lois CK, shock value is a very small part of his routines. He may start by saying that sounds bigoted, but he then goes on to highlight the absurdity and tragedy of bigotry. He does not make bigoted statements and then simply gawk at having made them.

Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuNIBfkTPsM&feature=youtu.be&t=3m25s
He spends the first three minutes doing a mocking impression of a spoiled girlfriend, which is itself an obnoxious stereotype. I was cringing at that point. Then he pivots to explicitly acknowledge the sexism of that impression and dig into the origins of it. The joke is not sexism; the joke is the tragedy that sexism is deeply embedded in the human experience.

In any case, I don't think PDP is an intrinsically, irredeemably hateful person who must be banished from society. I do acknowledge that some people probably are saying that, or heavily implying it, and that this is an overreaction that should be contested. I do think PDP has thoughtlessly indulged in casual bigotry in a way that many, if not all, human beings do at some point in their lives, and that right now it is very important to push back against that sort of behavior. I realize my original post probably sounded a bit shriller than that.

I hope that clarifies my perspective. And for what it's worth, I also think that GAF OT has become disturbingly hivemindey and unable to engage with dissenting viewpoints in a productive way.

I value that opinion and and thanks for responding. I do agree on pushing back to a point. However, to me this almost amounts to witch hunting for the sake of a powerful example. I'd encourage you to watch (I know painful) some of PDP's videos that get referenced if you can find them.
Here's one where I keep seeing the imagery used from.

Here's the list of past offences.

August 7, 2016: PewDiePie, wearing a Make America Great Again hat, begins his video with a swastika and other Nazi imagery, and uses a photo of Hitler as a segue between clips
September 24, 2016: In a video criticising YouTube policy, he shows a clip of Hitler giving a speech
October 15, 2016: PewDiePie posts swastikas drawn by his fans
December 8, 2016: PewDiePie wears a brown military uniform while watching a Hitler clip at the end of his video
January 11, 2017: He hires two Sri Lankan actors on Fiverr to do a dance and hold up a sign that says &#8216;Death to all Jews'
January 14, 2017: PewDiePie plays the Nazi Party anthem before bowing to a swastika in a mock resurrection ritual

Here's a few videos to reference:

https://youtu.be/QGX2mJ6IbS0?t=586

He dons a uniform and plays the theme from C&C: Red Alert, plays images of Hitler and nods. Joking "confirming" the ridiculous rumors about him that are constantly perpetuated.

https://youtu.be/KtxXKezbQ9w?t=662
Here's the video that caused the fulmination of the claims.

It sounds like you approached it more rationally then I initially thought. I just worry about how freely we, and the media throw labels and rhetoric that is very powerful and can be completely damning for some individuals. From the reaction I've seen, people want him, to be torn down Mel Gibson style. When his infractions don't even come remotely close. We get so angry about certain things we abstract ourselves a layer from the outcomes of the kind of opinions we throw out, but cumulatively it has an impact. It's easy to get so behind a message or movement that you find yourself dismissing the means by which you achieve your goal.

I think the question is, do people want Pewdie Pie labeled as an anti-Semite for these infractions, do they warrant it? Do they believe his punishment should be an absolute fall from fame? Is he beyond redemption for this? I have a hard time placing a label or punishment that some people absolutely deserve, on someone who made some stupid jokes.

btw not disputing Disney's decision or anything, just the level of animosity against him currently.

Edit: Why the hell am I putting my neck out for Pewdie Pie... I don't even know.

 

[akira28]

He's one of the biggest celebs in the world. He just wanted to see how far he could go.

that's my takeaway. everything else is just a BS excuse. He wanted to test the reactions and troll the public.

In the end what Forbes and WSJ is doing will just make millions of fans of Pewdiepie's more critical to media than they've been in the past. Which I guess is a good thing?

In the end pDP fans are going to hold a grudge against the media for picking on poor PD? Will they boycott? I tend to think msm has given up on these people until they pass the age of 30 anyway.

 

[ISee]

This was two days ago. Just to make things clear

The problem is: He typed in the message himself and paid them to record it. Their video is 100% based on his input/actions.
If he wanted to proof a point (people will say anything for $5) he could have made them say e.g. something negative or even insulting about him but he choose to be anti semitic for laughs and giggles. Which is incredibly stupid and he deserves to be called out for this.
Even his response isn't smart and comes of a bit arrogant.
A smart person would just say sorry in a humble way and maybe even donate a small amount of money to a Jewish non profit organisation.