New Super Bomberman R footage - appears 60 fps?
- Thread starter jon bones
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But can you play those on the go with online support amongst 8 different players?
I understand 60 FPS being the ideal, but it being the factor that loses a sale for this game seems weird to me.
Shadow Hog
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I was at an event just like this one in DC and played Super Bomberman R in person.
It's not 60.
It's not 60.
Its a bomberman game. In 2017. How is possible to not have 60 fps? What resource is stealing that possibility?
polyh3dron
Banned
Damn, it actually is. Don't know why my browser wouldn't play it at full quality earlier.
But yeah, now that I'm seeing the video at 60, the game is most definitely 30. You can tell by the text graphic that says "READY"
Milly Osworth
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Looks like 120fps
Bill Rizer
Member
I saw the title 3 days ago at a Switch event, and it was technically embarassing. I don't mind N64 graphics, I dare to say I even like them with their vintage flavour, but the frame rate was depressing. Looked more like 20fps to me...
Jon Carter
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Yeah, it's pretty weird how 30 FPS seems like such a deal breaker to some people. Surely better graphics, more content and online play should make up for running at 30 FPS instead of 60. Super Mario 3D Land was 30 FPS and it doesn't seem like that bothered more than, like, two people on Earth despite Mario also being an arcade-oriented series. 30 FPS does not mean mediocre gameplay.
akidnamededdy
Banned
Well I hope so, I'd better see all you pixel counting sumbitches online next Friday or whenever this shit'll work because lol Nintendo.
Shadow Hog
Member
It's a Unity Engine game, though that doesn't necessarily preclude it hitting 60FPS.
Rushing for launch I guess.
Rex Griswold
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Totally off topic, but that guy used to be my boss. He was making pretty good money where he was at and one day noped his way outta there to cover Nintendo on YT full time.
He's made it to a GAF thread, if that's not success, I don't know what is.
On topic, I don't understand why the game is being scrutinized so hard, it's not really the type to have huge benefits from being 60 FPS. I'm a graphics whore sometimes, but this is not one of those times.
He's made it to a GAF thread, if that's not success, I don't know what is.
On topic, I don't understand why the game is being scrutinized so hard, it's not really the type to have huge benefits from being 60 FPS. I'm a graphics whore sometimes, but this is not one of those times.
Ok, but look at frame 1 and 2. The bomb is in the same position, when is supposed to be moving.
Spiral Insanity
Banned
His commentary/voice over skills are pretty good.
Not in the best Bomberman (UItra).
Photo Realistic Graphics
Game is still a day one purchase fuck you if you abandon Bomberman
The Spoony Hou
Member
All I can say is that the gameplay footage does look like it's 60fps from the video. I don't feel like I can be sure, though.
mocolostrocolos
Member
Seems like the 60fps feeling comes from the video itself, not the game.
TechnicPuppet
Nothing! I said nothing!
Looks smooth as feck to me. Also the art style reminds me of the old neo geo emulated version I used to play when I was young and its perfect for this game.
Broken Hope
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Android Assualt Cactus is a Unity game doing a fuck ton more at 60 fps. The engine isn't the reason.
If they can't top a PS3 game that cost 10 euros, then everyone needs to abandon Bomberman.
Resistance100
Member
Looks great to me. The only issue is have is the price but I'll get my money's worth out of it in time
Discokuningas
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I don't understand why this is 30fps, but I don't think it is an issue with the game like this where the camera (or the characters) doesn't move fast. I mean looking at the footage it seems pretty smooth. I just played Wind Waker HD and even that game is pretty smooth with locked 30fps and there is faster camera. And I can see frames easily, even Mario Kart skipped frame issue and I'm pretty loud speaker for good framerates. While I don't understand why this game is only 30, I don't think it is an issue at all. Day one for me.
My biggest worry. I can live with a low framerate but if you can't nip around corners tightly then it'll be horrible in multiplayer
Now I'm wondering the best way to get multiplayer bomberman on my TV. Old super famicom but not sure my TV has the inputs for it and I don't have a multi tap (plus lol wired controllers)
Yeah seriously how are you gonna focus on the battle with the camera whipping around.
I guess the ex-devs still have some Act Zero in their minds. Not saying this game will be as horrible as Act Zero.
Fried Food
Banned
if you can't tell if it's 60 fps for sure or not, it's 30 fps.
Diprosalic
Banned
When i first saw the switch and its games i quickly scanned the room, looked what people are playing and the very first thing i noticed was "why is bomberman in 30fps?".
Lost all my interest in that title.
Lost all my interest in that title.
Jonneh3003
Banned
I'm not expecting the best game in the series but I'm always down for more Bomberman games.
IrishNinja
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yeah, that did look nice...honestly, i'm thinking of grabbing this with zelda (even at $50) but really hoping for good reviews here, any idea when those will be out in the wild?
It comes from the fact that the TV in the video is interpolating the game from 30 fps to 60. The effect is difficult to notice in Bomberman because the position of most of the moving elements only changes slightly with each frame update.The way that frame interpolation works, on the interpolated frame, each moving element will be visible at the positions of both the previous frame and the following frame (but blurred). If the element does not overlap itself at these two positions, the ghosting effect becomes evident and the smoothing effect of the interpolation is lost. However, if the element DOES overlap itself, the two distinct element positions will blur together to give the impression of a completely unique element on the interpolated frame. The only moving elements in Bomberman which move fast enough for the ghosting effect to be noticeable are the thrown bombs as well as some HUD text elements that pop up at the start or end of the match. This is why Bomberman looks like it is running at 60 fps when it's not.
It could be the TV. While not the same model they are using at these events, my Samsung TV has absolutely horrible input lag unless you put it into game mode to turn all the shit off you don't need.
casey_contra
Member
The Chicago event?
Makoto-Yuki
Banned
does this have online multiplayer or vs cpu?
anyway i think it could be 60fps. the little bombermen looks quite smooth but the fire looks different. maybe 30fps? it's hard to tell when you're watching a recording of a tv on youtube. the game doesn't look that demanding so i would guess 60fps would be easy enough for the switch.
anyway i think it could be 60fps. the little bombermen looks quite smooth but the fire looks different. maybe 30fps? it's hard to tell when you're watching a recording of a tv on youtube. the game doesn't look that demanding so i would guess 60fps would be easy enough for the switch.
Yes to both AFAIK. 8 players total.
Makoto-Yuki
Banned
thanks. i was worried it was only local multiplayer. i play alone but enjoy online multiplayer. might pick it up once i'm done with zelda.
Spiral Insanity
Banned
Ew. Someone at Nintendo needs to get yelled at for the TV configuration.
I'm really hoping that can be turned off in the settings.
JoshuaJSlone
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Speaking only for myself: the battle mode is the meat of Bomberman, and the last time I bought one was a pretty full-featured battle mode game (10 stages, up to 8 players) on WiiWare for $10. Coming from that, quintuple the price seems like a lot regardless of how much they add in what I'd consider secondary modes.
Probably the "stop messing with that, get back to work on pachinko" factor.