AMD Ryzen CPUs will launch by March 3

Durante said:
I don't think platform longevity has much relevance in the modern CPU market. Even if a platform remains an option for 4 years, that's not really a meaningful CPU upgrade interval these days for the vast majority of use cases.

Looking back at the last 4 years, e.g. your ports get outdated more quickly than your CPU.
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You are probably right about platform longevity, not many people nowadays need to upgrade their cpus in 4 years. And after four years you are probably better off getting a new cpu and mobo at that time instead of adding a new cpu to a 4 year old platform. However it is nice to have that option.

This is true, but you do at least have the option to get expansion cards for newer ports.
 
Papacheeks said:
Should have waited. Is it to late to return?
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I wouldn't. Is it worth replacing a CPU, motherboard and (possibly) RAM in the hope that Ryzen's performance in real world testing falls in line with a CPU that you already have?

I'm still skeptical about Ryzen's real world performance, but things certainly look promising so far.
 
Damaniel said:
I wouldn't. Is it worth replacing a CPU, motherboard and (possibly) RAM in the hope that Ryzen's performance in real world testing falls in line with a CPU that you already have?

I'm still skeptical about Ryzen's real world performance, but things certainly look promising so far.
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Surely Ryzen is DDR4 supporting platform?
 
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Vinter said:
Just preordered the 1800X. At that price it sure seems like a sweet deal.
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Personally, I'd wait on more information on whether the 1800X is worth the significant uptick in price over the 1700 (X or non-X). Given that all of them are unlocked, unless the "X" surprises I don't think there will be sufficient reason to go for anything higher than the lowest tier with however many cores you want.

Unless you don't want to overclock of course.
 
Durante said:
I don't think platform longevity has much relevance in the modern CPU market. Even if a platform remains an option for 4 years, that's not really a meaningful CPU upgrade interval these days for the vast majority of use cases.

Looking back at the last 4 years, e.g. your ports get outdated more quickly than your CPU.
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You're definitely right when talking about the top end. But I think it's very much a real consideration if you're getting a 4 or 8 threads version.
 
Sinistral said:
In an absolute vacuum, that 1 or 2 extra FPS would still dictate the 'best' yes. Not irrelevant, miniscule yeah. But we're not it's not in a vacuum, so you have to compare other things. I still expect the intel parts to OC better, because of the lower core counts and better fab process. So for -just gaming- in the current landscape, I think it will be the better CPU on core speed alone. It's up to the individual to weigh other options and gauge what's best for them.

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For me, negligible differences in games (I'm assuming but almost certain it will be) or 4 mores cores/8 more threads as well as (like you said) the longevity of the AM4 platform as opposed to X99 certainly (getting replaced this year) or the Z series is no contest. Ryzen is the way to go as they're the same price ffs, double the cores and threads and massively faster in multi-threaded tasks is decisive.
 
Durante said:
Personally, I'd wait on more information on whether the 1800X is worth the significant uptick in price over the 1700 (X or non-X). Given that all of them are unlocked, unless the "X" surprises I don't think there will be sufficient reason to go for anything higher than the lowest tier with however many cores you want.

Unless you don't want to overclock of course.
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I understand. I guess we will see. I can always change my order if I want to. Benchmarks first.
 
Wolf Akela said:
Will there be something cheaper than 1700? Just realized that even that is a bit over my budget. I was aiming for a 7600 or 7600k.
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They'll later release 6 and 4 core cpus. The 4 core CPU only has 4 threads afaik where's the 6 core CPU's got 12.

What do people recommend? Which motherboard / ram setup should I go for (1700x). how big off a diff is 2400/2666/3000?
 
Wolf Akela said:
Will there be something cheaper than 1700? Just realized that even that is a bit over my budget. I was aiming for a 7600 or 7600k.
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Karanlos said:
They'll later release 6 and 4 core cpus. The 4 core CPU only has 4 threads afaik where's the 6 core CPU's got 12.

What do people recommend? Which motherboard / ram setup should I go for (1700x). how big off a diff is 2400/2666/3000?
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The 1300 and 1400X are 4c/8t.
 
manuel said:
Yes this is the general opinion i guess about amd apus but to be sincere, my r9 270x 2GB is the real bottleneck in the majority of games I play, the only exeption being GTA5. For instance, it is capable to run DS3 @60FPS 1080p but on low settings with the only area that it strugles with being cathedral of the deep, but if I lower the resolution to 720p it is locked 60FPS...
Anyway, I think a cheap mATX board with overclocking abilities, 1400x, 16 gigs of ddr4@ max clocks that the board supports and a rx 480 8gigs will be my next build. Being poor and from a third world country is not fun... Good thing is that in my country AMD products are generaly cheaper than their Intel or Nvidia counterparts. Hope it remains that way with Ryzen.
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That sounds like a fine plan, you'll be looking at pretty much 2x the performance of your current rig, while using less power as well.

blly155 said:
Would I be stupid to ditch my 6700K for a 1700/X or 1800X? I only really use it for gaming.
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There is no point to switch if purely gaming.
 
blly155 said:
Would I be stupid to ditch my 6700K for a 1700/X or 1800X? I only really use it for gaming.
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I'm in the same boat as you. As of now I don't think that for gaming an upgrade is needed but in a couple of years if amd keeps this kind of quality going I'll upgrade red.
 
I went ahead and ordered the 1800x and the MSI Gaming Titanium. I've gone Asus for a while, so I'll miss the familiarity but I've had a LOT of problems with them.

Just ordered an AM4 bracket for my Noctua DH-14, but that'll take forever to get here. I was hoping the CPU came with something I could limp along with in the meantime. Nope.

I currently have a Mac Pro for work, and a gaming desktop. They're side-by-side. I think since Apple doesn't want to sell me a new Mac Pro, that I'll take a run at replacing both with this 1 AMD rig. I have some work to do on the software side, and I'll probably wind up with the old Mac Pro in my storage room for remote desktop in a pinch.
 
Maxximo said:
I'm in the same boat as you. As of now I don't think that for gaming an upgrade is needed but in a couple of years if amd keeps this kind of quality going I'll upgrade red.
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My 6700K is great but I love new stuff and it seems quad core is finally done so feels a bit dated. I was planning on waiting for Intel's Icelake before upgrading...I guess I could still do that and if AMD has a competitive CPU out at that time I can consider that. If these don't offer much improvement for gaming then I'll feel better sticking with my 6700K.
 
I'm really interested in the 7 1700, if it looks promising when we see some gaming benchmarks and can reach around 4.3-4.4GHz I'm down.

I really hope the emulator performance is good as-well!
 
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