Lactose_Intolerant
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I wonder if that was the part that they talked to Liev Schreiber about
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I wonder if that was the part that they talked to Liev Schreiber about
Didn't see the movie, didn't really care to see it.
But some motherfucker comes up to my drive through speaker and says "I just got back from Logan, and fucking Woverine dies. Anyways, here's my order"
And when he gets to the window, he repeats it again, and tell the Xavier dies too.
Is this real?
But some motherfucker comes up to my drive through speaker and says "I just got back from Logan, and fucking Woverine dies. Anyways, here's my order"
And when he gets to the window, he repeats it again, and tell the Xavier dies too.
Is this real?
Scarecrow
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Man, now I really can't wait to see the unedited version.
I really loved the movie, a great sendoff to Hugh Jackman and Patrick Stewart. The dialogue of them going back and forth like was super funny.
I'm just wondering where does Fox go with the Wolverine character from here. It's too big to just let sit there and do nothing with it moving forward.
I'm just wondering where does Fox go with the Wolverine character from here. It's too big to just let sit there and do nothing with it moving forward.
Logan is an incredible conclusion to two eras in superhero filmmaking that have been defined partially by one man: Hugh Jackman. Returning to his iconic role for a final time, this is his best outing yet, showcasing the hurt and weariness of the character in a beautifully tragic way. Logan is possibly one of the bleakest blockbusters ever made, interweaving the franchise's history in a subtle way that makes every scene hit harder the closer you are to Wolverine's character and the X-Men world.
Mangold's direction is stronger than before, with the R-rating allowing him to truly submerge himself into the grime this story deserves. The action is consistently exciting while always gut-wrenching. Although he never fully steals the show from Jackman, Stewart also delivers his best performance yet as Xavier, bringing an even more tragic element to the proceedings, but also a load of heart. The rest of the cast serves their purpose well, never overpowering these other two performers.
It's not a perfect film. There are some story structure issues (Grant's character pops up WAY too late into the film), and a few characters fall out of focus as the story goes in a very disappointing way. However, this is all easily forgiven when you realize that this film exists. A film where two of the most iconic superheroes of the early 2000s are allowed to grow old and be weak. A film where the hope and idealism of the earlier films are thrown out the window. The fact that Logan was made in a clearly unrestrained manner is a miracle in terms of blockbuster filmmaking. Logan is a remarkable finale to a legendary portrayal of one of the most famous Marvel superheroes, bringing thematic depth and an intense character study to an extremely well-done comic book movie.
Mangold's direction is stronger than before, with the R-rating allowing him to truly submerge himself into the grime this story deserves. The action is consistently exciting while always gut-wrenching. Although he never fully steals the show from Jackman, Stewart also delivers his best performance yet as Xavier, bringing an even more tragic element to the proceedings, but also a load of heart. The rest of the cast serves their purpose well, never overpowering these other two performers.
It's not a perfect film. There are some story structure issues (Grant's character pops up WAY too late into the film), and a few characters fall out of focus as the story goes in a very disappointing way. However, this is all easily forgiven when you realize that this film exists. A film where two of the most iconic superheroes of the early 2000s are allowed to grow old and be weak. A film where the hope and idealism of the earlier films are thrown out the window. The fact that Logan was made in a clearly unrestrained manner is a miracle in terms of blockbuster filmmaking. Logan is a remarkable finale to a legendary portrayal of one of the most famous Marvel superheroes, bringing thematic depth and an intense character study to an extremely well-done comic book movie.
Dark_castle
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The kids are running away because they didn't want to fight like their original purpose was, that's being mutant weapons.
Good movie.
I really liked Laura's character, but it seemed odd to me that the rest of the kids were much less "feral". It makes sense that they need to teach them languages and how to behave if they're going to work as soldiers/assassins but then why is Laura so messed up?
After the first scene where she's talking she reverts to being pretty normal, which bugged me a bit.
Also, they kept doing that "Say something in Spanish, then repeat it in English" (only using Spanish for super-easy words) thing, it's really annoying.
I really liked Laura's character, but it seemed odd to me that the rest of the kids were much less "feral". It makes sense that they need to teach them languages and how to behave if they're going to work as soldiers/assassins but then why is Laura so messed up?
After the first scene where she's talking she reverts to being pretty normal, which bugged me a bit.
Also, they kept doing that "Say something in Spanish, then repeat it in English" (only using Spanish for super-easy words) thing, it's really annoying.
SuperStiltzkin
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She has Logan's genes, most likely inherited his berserker rage too. She's basically him to a T.
About the Spanish for super-easy words... Well duh. They always do that in Hollywood movies.
IndoAssassin
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Man I loved this movie, then the ending happened and it ruined it for me.
dragonyeuw
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Saw it last night, LOVED it but boy did I feel somber and depressed as the credits rolled. This was one of those films that hits you to the core, I felt physically weak and drained by it. Unfortunately I was sitting in front of 2 females who laughed at the most inopportune times, especially the ending funeral scene when X-23 was delivering her speech, and even when the cross was turned into an X. What the fuck are you laughing at?! I then remembered why I invest a fair amount of money in my home theatre equipment and why I rarely go to movies nowadays.
-ImaginaryInsider
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I really liked the movie, but I had few nitpicks:
To me, it would have been a stronger movie without the clone, I understand the symbolism, but it just felt like an unnecessary edition, especially with a older Wolverine with a compromised healing factor, he didn't really need an added threat.
I think the green serum-based berserker rage at the end deflated the impact of it for me. I'd much rather it come from an emotional place than from a bottle, and be an extension of the rage Logan showed with the initial fight during carjacking at the beginning of the movie.
Lastly, him dying being impaled on a tree is an odd choice. I'd rather him go out in fight similar to the hammer fight in "Old Boy", over-whelming numbers in close quarters, showing he's the best at what he does one last time from pure brutal resolve, then dying from that.
Regardless my picky fanboy complaints, the movie was great, and Hugh Jackman is a class act, the amount of respect he paid to the character in this movie should earn him a special place in nerd Valhalla.
To me, it would have been a stronger movie without the clone, I understand the symbolism, but it just felt like an unnecessary edition, especially with a older Wolverine with a compromised healing factor, he didn't really need an added threat.
I think the green serum-based berserker rage at the end deflated the impact of it for me. I'd much rather it come from an emotional place than from a bottle, and be an extension of the rage Logan showed with the initial fight during carjacking at the beginning of the movie.
Lastly, him dying being impaled on a tree is an odd choice. I'd rather him go out in fight similar to the hammer fight in "Old Boy", over-whelming numbers in close quarters, showing he's the best at what he does one last time from pure brutal resolve, then dying from that.
Regardless my picky fanboy complaints, the movie was great, and Hugh Jackman is a class act, the amount of respect he paid to the character in this movie should earn him a special place in nerd Valhalla.
Zeouterlimits
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Really enjoyed the movie, but feel the first trailer might be better, for me?
The sad, heartbroken tone that builds to suffering and rage.
The sad, heartbroken tone that builds to suffering and rage.
Kojirospath
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Kinda agree. The funeral scene sucked ass. Especially the turning the cross into an x bit. Made me cringe hard. Rest was great though. Stellar acting in this.
I kinda wish Logan as a fighter went out on a high note. Maybe that would have been too 'optimistic' or heroic in a movie bleak as fuck but I did want that one last pure rush. We don't see Logan in his prime other than that one short burst and I was hoping he was going to somehow outsmart the Clogan.
crackhead_bob
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So among all the X-Men films from the past 17 years, which ones work the best as an effective saga of sorts? Streamline all the crap and pretend they don't exist. The only continuity that matters is what's in the desired bundle. I haven't seen Logan or X-Men: Apocalypse. But I did enjoy The Wolverine. One thing I still have a hard time with The Wolverine is the mid credits scene with Magneto and Xavier. There was never any real pay off to that scene, was there? Nothing in Days of Future Past made that scene necessary.
DoctorFling
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I didn't like this at all. Found Wolverine insufferable in this one and as soon as Xavier left the film so did any emotional connection with the film I may have had up until then. The little girl was great though, wished the film was just about her.
Mad scientists and clones though? Get outta here. I'm glad so many people seem to like it but Logan was really boring for me.
Mad scientists and clones though? Get outta here. I'm glad so many people seem to like it but Logan was really boring for me.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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Yeah, I don't know if it's a more recent thing or what but it seems like a lot of the complaints in this thread center are around everything not being explicitly explained like you're a 5yr old which is really weird to me.
StarCreator
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Now that I've had a night to sleep on it, yeah, I'm not sure about the portrayal of the other kids either. They all should have been visibly damaged the way Laura was, because the way Laura acts (especially at the gas station) now makes no sense at all. Like, one of the kids is literally the stereotypical movie comic relief fat kid! How did Laura end up so maladjusted when the environment she grew in produced so many normal kids?
It's also weird that no other kid had her obvious preference for Spanish either.
It's also weird that no other kid had her obvious preference for Spanish either.
I thought about that too. The other kids seemed to have spoken great English and only she can't speak it? The leader of the kids seemed pretty normal for someone locked up in a lab since birth.
ZackieChan
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Saw it again, this time in Thailand. Goddamn, they edited the fuck out of this for China. It's 100% more brutal and graphic. For example, they cut the first hotel room kill entirely. The guy looks at Logan in slow motion, and Logan never does anything. He kills people in the room, though.
The water pipe main guy's decapitation is also not in there. None of the decapitations are. So crazy how much more gory it is in it's unedited form. Loved it even more.
Maybe it's been discussed, but the company that was trying to buy out the farmers is the one who produced the HFCS to eliminate mutants, yes? Seems crazy to have all of that info dump on farming from Eriq LaSalle without it being connected. What an odd evil plan, though.
The water pipe main guy's decapitation is also not in there. None of the decapitations are. So crazy how much more gory it is in it's unedited form. Loved it even more.
Maybe it's been discussed, but the company that was trying to buy out the farmers is the one who produced the HFCS to eliminate mutants, yes? Seems crazy to have all of that info dump on farming from Eriq LaSalle without it being connected. What an odd evil plan, though.
AdventureRacing
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I enjoyed the movie but nowhere near as much as I expected too. It's not even close to my favourite X-men film. It's a somber feeling knowing that Jackman and Stewart are finished with this franchise. Jackman in particular, since the movies started in 2000 he has basically been at the heart of them. It's the end of an era.
It had also been such a defining role in Jackman career. Amazing to think the first x-men was basically his first big movie.
It had also been such a defining role in Jackman career. Amazing to think the first x-men was basically his first big movie.
RipperGrim
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I was watching whatculture's review of it and one of them said it would have been a lot better if none of the other kids made it to the lookout point, that it should have been just logan and x23 battling through the woods.
I agree, the kids lightened the tone of the movie with the bad guys going none lethal and the kids just literally being picked up to be incapacitated.
entremet
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Movie logic. Not a huge deal with the language stuff. This is where storytelling trumps realism and being a film, not enough time to develop this stuff.
giancarlo123x
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Fucking amazing movie, best movie featuring comic book characters to me ever and the end of an era. I saw there were some last of us comparisons thrown around but the only one scene felt that way closer to the end when they got to
man I can't wait to watch this again then buy it on bluray.
the kids and they had that argument in the room about how he isn't A dad and all she wanted was for him to bring her there.
-Plasma Reus-
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What about the gory hotel level where he commits gruesome murders.
Thats last of us.
Thats last of us.
I agree that it should have just been Logan and Laura. I think the other kids do lighten the mood too much and we don't see them getting killed or anything.
#dead
What else what they were supposed to give him? Cybernetic implants belong to the bad guys in this movie.
Dark_castle
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You know Logan, we are really the last of X.
This movie got me in the feels. All three of the main cast had great chemistry with each other. One small ooc moment for Logan is he wouldn't of abandoned the girl in the workshop and just try to save Charles. And 2 the green serum and how everyone with a brain could see how the movie was gonna end.
Right now this is my favorite X-men movie but let me think about it for a few months.
Right now this is my favorite X-men movie but let me think about it for a few months.
airmangataosenai
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I feel like I missed the explanation for the significance of crossing the Canadian border. What would prevent them from pursuing them into an unpopulated portion of Canada? Is this just the director attempting to comment on current events or was a specific reason given in the movie?
hendersonhank
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Wow, when she did that, that was far and away the most emotionally affecting moment in the film for me. My wife and I both choked up instantly and she has never read a comic in her life.
For me, that was an RotK "My friends....you bow to no one" moment.
Loved the movie. Sure there are a plot holes -- why so gung ho to capture a kid who's a good melee fighter rather than the telepath who can do whatever he wants to anyone in the world, hundreds at a time; why would an adamantium bullet be able to kill them, it's still just something that makes holes in people, how is that different than any other bullet; how did all those other kids make it cross-country when X-23 barely did with Wolverine and Professor X to help her; wouldn't those other kids' powers have been more valuable than fast healing and short claws; why didn't Wolverine kill Pierce when he showed up at the ranch; didn't the police care about this caravan of private soldiers driving cross country murdering people and blowing things up; why would crossing the border make them safe; why did his injuries in the final fight kill him when similar injuries in the fight at the farm didn't and it's not even like the tree went through his heart or something; etc.
But the direction and cinematography were fantastic, head and shoulders above the other superhero movies; acting was phenomenal; X-23 was amazing -- I'm always worried when they throw a kid in as a "soften the curmudgeon" prop or when I'm supposed to be believe a 70lb girl is a badass, but she nailed it; and the action was awesome. Maybe the clone was goofy, but when he showed up at the farm and he and Wolverine went at it, it was so brutal I was flinching at the violence. You couldn't have stuff like that with another character who is just someone with a gun or who shoots beams out of his hand or flies or whatever.
Loved it.
hendersonhank
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I think he made the snap decision that he could catch up to the girl, whom he knew they wanted alive, but was worried (rightly) that Charles needed immediate help. And don't forget that Charles was completely helpless, as a 90 year old invalid whom Wolverine had drugged into powerlessness.
Kojirospath
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ZackieChan
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None of those are "plot holes."
hendersonhank
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Cool, care to elaborate?
ryutaro's mama
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BronsonLee
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This movie makes me mad that they fucked with The Wolverine because gaaaawddamnit
ryutaro's mama
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???
PhoncipleBone
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Do you even have a soul?Probably won't surprise you when I say I severely disliked that scene
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