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Alien Covenant - Trailer 2
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Count Dookkake
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Walter > Wally > Wall-E
wesleyshark
Banned
Bummer.
Garcia el Gringo
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I like the 8 those lights were making towards the end. Bring on David.
Bummer.
I wanted to receive an actual "Walter"
If David was a human I would agree, but since he is an android that is created by humans I think this makes the Xenomorphs more interesting.
NealMcCauley
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It could also tie into to Ash and Bishop's fascination with the species, like maybe they see similarities between xenos and synthetics.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
None of what's being black barred are spoilers at all. What are we doing.
It's speculation on whether David created the xenomorphs. Which is speculation that's been happening before we ever got a trailer, much less the 2nd one.
It's speculation on whether David created the xenomorphs. Which is speculation that's been happening before we ever got a trailer, much less the 2nd one.
Hell it was speculation about Prometheus.
This is what the OT will look like.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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So AMD is the one that's responsible for these nuts.
I guess so. but it's still the Xenomorph coming from human sources.
Tbf the problem comes first with the "Engineers created humans".
The only good part about all of this is the notion that both Engineers and humans played about being gods creating life and ended up fucking themselves, I guess.
Tbf the problem comes first with the "Engineers created humans".
The only good part about all of this is the notion that both Engineers and humans played about being gods creating life and ended up fucking themselves, I guess.
darkistheway
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I gotta say: the second trailer is doing its job: I have interested in the movie.
Mostly for Fassbender. Perfect weirdness.
Mostly for Fassbender. Perfect weirdness.
He always looks like that.
Looks like that one big rumor about the story may not be true. According to Ridley and Waterston, Daniels is not Ripley's mom. Good news, I guess?
Haha, he's never amused unless he's behind a camera, from what I've seen.
Is the footage SXSW exclusive or do we get a peek at it, too?
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Good news indeed.
although it looks like in his answer, he admitted it was a possibility at one point. So at least he's not full of entirely bad decisions.
Discotheque
Banned
Holy shit please be true. I hope this isn't just misdirection to save from spoiling the movie
Don't jinx it.
Yeah, he could be pulling what he did for Prometheus where he said Charlize Theron would make it out last.
Discotheque
Banned
All of his best work has been flawed people or just straight up villains though
Hunger, Shame, Macbeth, friggin 12 years a slave, Steve Jobs
Edit: okay putting Steve Jobs in the same breath of those sounds pretty terrible lol, more emphasis on flawed than villain with that one and Shame
Just saw the Walter ad. Its really amazing how much effort they are putting in to make this not look like its not set in the same universe like the four Alien movies.
Their chips are still shit 50 years later when Ash couldnt even folllw Assimovs laws. He will turn evil.
Dash_Riprock
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Thank GOD.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Well, the hits from SXSW keep coming.
The Verge has a mildly-spoilery account of the three scenes Ridley showed there.
And your speculation about David's role in the film?
So... yeah. There you go.
The Verge has a mildly-spoilery account of the three scenes Ridley showed there.
And your speculation about David's role in the film?
It's pretty much...
...correct.
"In the final preview scene, Michael Fassbenders android David (hes definitely the same character from Prometheus in this scene, as hes called David by name) walks Billy Crudups character through his personal workshop of biological terrors. He shows off different mutations of the creatures, explaining that he has been trying to understand the aliens that were discovered in Prometheus, going so far as to genetically engineer new versions a process thats been waiting for one final puzzle piece to complete.
Thats when David takes him into a small chamber filled with four eggs that look identical to the ones seen in the original Alien. The final puzzle piece, David says, is mother a waiting host and Crudups character is lined up for the honor. The dots are easy to connect: the alien as audiences saw it in 1979 wasnt the result of evolution or natural selection. Instead, it was the result of an android intentionally breeding the most dangerous, lethal creature possible.
Instead of being about humanity fighting the hostility of nature, the Alien series suddenly becomes something much more timely: a story about humanity sowing the seeds of its own demise, through a relentless pursuit of technology and artificial intelligence."
...correct.
"In the final preview scene, Michael Fassbenders android David (hes definitely the same character from Prometheus in this scene, as hes called David by name) walks Billy Crudups character through his personal workshop of biological terrors. He shows off different mutations of the creatures, explaining that he has been trying to understand the aliens that were discovered in Prometheus, going so far as to genetically engineer new versions a process thats been waiting for one final puzzle piece to complete.
Thats when David takes him into a small chamber filled with four eggs that look identical to the ones seen in the original Alien. The final puzzle piece, David says, is mother a waiting host and Crudups character is lined up for the honor. The dots are easy to connect: the alien as audiences saw it in 1979 wasnt the result of evolution or natural selection. Instead, it was the result of an android intentionally breeding the most dangerous, lethal creature possible.
Instead of being about humanity fighting the hostility of nature, the Alien series suddenly becomes something much more timely: a story about humanity sowing the seeds of its own demise, through a relentless pursuit of technology and artificial intelligence."
So... yeah. There you go.
Jason's Ultimatum
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Game over, man.
Days like these...
Have a Blessed Day
But
what about the xenomorph carvings in the cave in Prometheus? I thought the xenomorphs already existed.
What did he mean by this?
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The ultimate killing machine.....
will and will always be....
mankind
will and will always be....
mankind
Easily Retconned to a deacon
Bobby Roberts
Banned
SHRUUUUUUGGGG
The alien was always supposed to be a bioweapon as far as I understand it.
Don't really care about the actual specifics, but it was easy to see coming. Ridley Scott the fuck are you doing.
Since it seems the spoilers are true, honestly it doesn't change much really.
Assuming we made them. It plays along with Prometheus' idea of God and also doesn't change much about the Alien species or past movies. The biggest enemy in the franchise since the 2nd has always been about what would WY or the Government do with the species. Basically, how can they turn them into a weapon. This fits along side that fine. We decided to create the perfect weapon which eventually turns on us. Nothing about the species being engineered by us would change that, just another twist. It also works with Prometheus' idea of God, Engineers created us, we create androids, androids create Xenomorph. One seems to lead to the destruction of another and so forth
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Curious as to if/how a Queen might show up.
No. But the confirmation hurts.
Fuck. Man, what the hell. Why do these idiots in Hollywood not understand why their movies work?
Days like these...
Have a Blessed Day
:/ They are going to fuck this franchise just like Star Wars. I didn't care for the prequels or Force Awakens.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Also, this will provide an... interesting bit of retroactive continuity to scenes from the first two movies:
The android fascination with and admiration of the facehuggers/xenomorphs might be a result of them recognizing their own handiwork, so to speak.
What about a KING? I know it doesn't play well thematically, but didn't they do some sculpt of one for Alien Day (lol) or something?
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This already happened when Alien 4 or if you want AvP released.
I don't have a problem with the themes / concepts. But Ridley should have have stopped waffling and either stuck with the original script for Prometheus (Alien: Engineers where the aliens were already on the planet and remained a mystery but probably the engineers bio-weapon they lost control of) or just made Prometheus distinct but in the same universe like he started but couldn't commit to. Then continued it here as Prometheus: Covenant with no xenomorph and David making new horrors.
Just pick a direction and roll with it, stop trying to have it both ways.
Just pick a direction and roll with it, stop trying to have it both ways.
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