JonTron (youtuber) speaks against demographic "invasion" of America by nonwhites

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I mean he errorneously thinks black people commit more crimes than whites, thinks immigrants need to be kept out to keep the white American gene pool pure, thinks tribalism is good, that discrimination doesn't exist in the West...

He's exactly in line with the Klan.

Listening more and more to that stream...

Fucking hell, I agree with you. This is far worse than his tweets. Jesus.

He should shut his mouth about politics asap.
 
If Twitter is serious about cleaning up their platform, just search for JonTron right now on Twitter would yield great bounties.

I for one mistakenly replied to a racist account
 
No, still, it's just stupid. Maybe it's just me, but I don't care about YouTubers opinions on political stuff they obviously know shit about. I think it's funny.

I still think that yt comment is a joke, this stream does not make Jon a KKK supporter or a nazi.

Everything the said falls in line with white nationalism.

Well... except for he fact that he isn't white.

Go figure.
 
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I'd say Breitbart but he's already had an interview there ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Perfect chance for a follow-up interview where he can talk about how liberals are the real racists, or something like that.

*Bets his whole life on a volatile, popularity-reliant medium such as Youtube*

*Starts posting stuff that would get someone in a stable office job fired*

"OH NO MY LIFE HAS BEEN RUINED!"

Seriously.
 
I don't understand the line of argument where (I presume) liberals are "hypocritical" for thinking racial homogeneity is fine in countries like Japan. I don't feel strongly about how they run their country because their culture has nothing to do with mine, so I don't say anything. But if pressed, I totally think that the lack of diversity in other countries is fucking pathetic, their weakness not strength. We should take it a sign of pride that other people want to come live in the west, a sign of integrity that we want them, and understand that it is this attitude and the results that we get out of it that continues to make us great.

Racial homogeneity being bad is backed by evolutionary science, to a certain point. Cultural homogeneity being ultimately bad? Yeah, good luck with selling this given the 200 year history of US that still culminated into Trump despite nearly none of you even having a different national identity but only pockets of subcultures.

Well, there is Canada that likes to paint itself as equally diverse as US but they certainly don't want simply immigrants but highly educated ones with marketable skills. That's probably only 1% of those who would want to move there.
 
True. It's not about games themselves, but about these guys finding a platform on which to spread their hate. Still, I feel like gaming tends to attract many of these people. Though that could probably be because I'm not as invested in other hobbies or communities as I am here, so it could still happen elsewhere and I don't hear about it.

Gaming, and also comics and other "nerdy" interests, are formerly niche hobbies that have become more mainstream in recent years.

There is definitely a group of fans who took some form of comfort in the previously "exclusive" nature of the hobby, who perhaps are now realizing that they may not be top dog as new blood comes into the fanbase. They preferred the old exclusionary model because it made them feel special and powerful over the more inclusionary modern reality.

This kind of mindset is rip for corruption by racist, sexist, etc. mindsets. These are people literally being told "You can be special again once we get rid of all these others"
 
If he doesn't get thrown out by Maker, Normal Boots and basically everyone still affiliated with him after this I'd be very, very surprised. And disappointed. And, yup, kinda outraged to be honest.
 
If he doesn't get thrown out by Maker, Normal Boots and basically everyone still affiliated with him after this I'd be very, very surprised. And disappointed. And, yup, kinda outraged to be honest.
Yeah. Like I don't say that he should get dropped flippantly, we was very overtly promoting and idea of white nationalism using some incredibly racist reasoning. If he doesn't get dropped it's because no major outlets will care enough to pick up the story
 
If he doesn't get thrown out by Maker, Normal Boots and basically everyone still affiliated with him after this I'd be very, very surprised. And disappointed. And, yup, kinda outraged to be honest.
Normal Boots has very little to do with him nowadays regardless and it's also obvious that Austin and ProJared also want very little to do with Jon. Can't really comment on Maker.
 
It's so poetical comedical that his newfound beliefs after years of integrating with the America society are also the ones who don't see him as equal.

Trying so hard to be the good ones while losing grip of the harsh reality.
 
If he doesn't get thrown out by Maker, Normal Boots and basically everyone still affiliated with him after this I'd be very, very surprised. And disappointed. And, yup, kinda outraged to be honest.

Like I've stated before I don't even think Normal boots is really a thing anymore. I don't watch all the normal boots members content but from the ones that I do they have all removed the intro and no longer mention it in their videos. Austin (Peanutbuttergamer) also had an incident involving Jontron on twitter where h3h3's Ethan called out Austin for tagging Jontron in a tweet. Austin responded that they were no longer friends. The comment has since been deleted. Something clearly happened there but they're keeping it private.
 
Like I've stated before I don't even think Normal boots is really a thing anymore. I don't watch all the normal boots members content but from the ones that I do they have all removed the intro and no longer mention it. Austin (Peanutbuttergamer) also had an incident involving Jontron on twitter where h3h3's Ethan called out Austin for tagging Jontron in a tweet. Austin responded that they were no longer friends. The comment has since been deleted. Something clearly happened there but they're keeping it private.

What even is Normal Boots? Just some weird umbrella brand with no incentive among them whatsoever?
 
The support for this kind of ideology has become normalized; consequently, It's going to become even more difficult for visually ethnic minorities if there is no change in the upcoming 2018 election. I hope America learns but given how all branches of the US govt is now run by republicans I doubt there'll be an alteration prior to some event/s of epic proportion.
 
Yikes, I knew JonTron had said some dumb shit but after watching that destiny interview it looks like he's really gone off the deep end.
 
Guy's a comtemptible cunt, glad I unsubscribed from him a few months back. I couldn't in good faith watch his videos knowing he's basically a white nationalist.

And that Twitch debate is an embarassment. This Destiny guy is running circles around him.
 
Shock horror, another popular gaming Youtuber is an alt right ass. I've always assumed they all are until proven otherwise (some I assume, are good people).

Money on who's next? I would say H3H3 but he strikes me more of a coward, too cowardly to speak out against the alt right pandering, but also too cowardly to come out as one so he just ends up skating this line trying to gain as many views from it all.
 
Yeah it just escalates and escalates.

It does sound like he's just making up arguments because he's getting soundly defeated in debate. There might be some sound points hidden under all these random "facts" (it's ok to be conservative on the internet for example), but his emotions were definately getting the better off him.

Really disappointed in him :(

And can somebody point me to 'all the riots' in Europe, if anything, there's far more violence/capita in the US.
 
Children who thought racism was funny at 12 grew up and never developed a moral compass along the way.
Thinking it is funny can lead to awkward situations where people don't understand the humour. It does, however, not lead to someone seriously engaging a discussion in the manner depcited here. In fact, I think, most of the time, people who think an idea is funny, be it racism, religion or communism, are not the ones who actually think the ideas are right (with some exceptions for more intellectual concepts and a certain sense of maturity from the person).
 
What even is Normal Boots? Just some weird umbrella brand with no incentive among them whatsoever?

Taken straight from the wiki
NormalBoots is a website started up by Austin Hargrave (PeanutButterGamer) and Jon Jafari (JonTron). After they both made content for ScrewAttack.com, they adventured out on their own to create their own site and community. Together with The Completionist, Continue?, and DidYouKnowGaming, the team achieved YouTube fame with their site and developed their own communities.

When NormalBoots relaunched, they were joined by Satchbags and ProJared

But now they all just upload to youtube and while most of them still collaborate with each other they've pretty much dropped the brand although not officially. I know projared and Peanutbuttergamer haven't done anything with Jontron in a while. I don't follow the others so I can't comment on them.
 
Taken straight from the wiki


But now they all just upload to youtube and while most of them still collaborate with each other they've pretty much dropped the brand although not officially. I know projared and Peanutbuttergamer haven't done anything with Jontron in a while.

Don't remember seeing the Notmalboots logo in PBG or Pro Jared's videos from the past year.
 
This is disgusting. None of the shit he's saying actually makes any sense. You can't trace back a single grain of truth from it.
 
The more I think about this, the more flabbergasted I am about this whole fracas. Whywhywhy would someone who can't even regurgitate lazy talking points, let alone have any sustained real-world interactions with minorities or discrimination, get so invested in this bullshit? What made him think he could argue these issues with anyone without being exposed as a smug dullard? Yeah, echo chambers, blah blah blah, there must be some small part of him that knows he's completely out of his depth and out of touch with reality (and if it didn't exist yesterday, it sure as hell has to exist today).

Seriously, what an utter fucking moron. Good riddance.
 
I figure it has been suggested somewhere in this thread already, but have there been any attempts to get in contact with his sponsors to pull their support?

There must be some tremendous cognitive dissonance going on with Jon to say this stuff despite his parent(s?) being Middle Eastern immigrants. Look dude, just because you look white doesn't mean the jackbooted Neo Nazis wouldn't have you up against the wall.
 
He's used Infowars as a source several times, I'm not surprised anymore.

Socialblade isn't showing me a subscriber loss for JonTronShow in the last two months though, am i missing something from what's being quoted?
 
The fact that a large amount of his own subreddit has pretty much turned against him is interesting. With the way things are today I would have expected them to double down on support for him, it's refreshing that the opposite is happening.
 
This is disgusting. None of the shit he's saying actually makes any sense. You can't trace back a single grain of truth from it.
The only sourced thing people have found from what Jon was saying (the 'wealthy blacks cause more crime than poor whites' comment) was from the Daily Stormer.
 
Never heard of this guy before. Listening to the stream. What an asshole. He doesn't back anything up at all and makes so many generalizations. He just loses himself with his bullshit.

Where are these European riots he keeps banging on about?
 
He's FFFUUUUCCKKKKKEEDDD so badly

I doubt he is actually going to suffer particularly badly for this. In fact, it may end up making him a "hero" for the alt right, which could end up increasing the amount of subs he gets (though probably still limiting his audience in the long run). Who knows?
 
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