JonTron (youtuber) speaks against demographic "invasion" of America by nonwhites

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Wow that was hard to watch. Jon seems to genuinely believe those tired alt-right talking points. Props to Destiny for trying to educate Jon, but it doesn't seem like he'll re-evaluate his world view any time soon. I used to love Jon's videos back when I had no reason to believe he was a closet-ed bigot 😪


Sad!
 
"Racists hate black people. I obviously don't hate black people. I just don't want them around me. Or my country. Or breeding with people in my country. Or forming organised movements. See?"

*paraphrasing, not his actual words

Yeah because that was a coherent thought.
 
The "diluting the gene pool" bit, aside from being an offensive statement, is dumb. If anything, a more diverse gene pool is healthier for a human population.
 
I'm a little mindblown at some of the things he said in the OP. It's always a shock to find out that someone you watch on youtube turns out to be a complete scumbag. It's a shame.

Yeah, this :(
I do try to seperate art from its' artist but this is too much :x I enjoyed his videos but feel uncomfortable supporting someone who comes out with deluded, racist shit.
 
Pardon my ignorance but isn't America founded and continuously built mainly by a mix of races and/or different cultures?

America was founded on colonialism and racism. It was literally stolen land that then built up its prosperity using slavery. The whole mix of different cultures and races is an off shoot of the original founding principals. Like civil rights movement was 60 years ago.

As a side note, no one should be surprised when their favourite personality turns out to be a racist bigoted asshole. At this point I expect it and every day they arem't is a small blessing until their expected fuck up.

The "diluting the gene pool" bit, aside from being an offensive statement, is dumb. If anything, a more diverse gene pool is healthier for a human population.

It's just about disdain for minorities. It has nothing to do with science lol.
 
His reaction gifs are always obnoxious so if he falls into obscurity and people stop using his face all over the place I would not mind at all. Dude has some seriously strange and awful opinions/views.
 
I see more people speaking up on this issue from now on. Like they are not ashamed to express their real feelings and I find it good.

It's not nice when a lot o people hide their thoughts on important problems like immigration. And I personally don't see anything wrong when people go against globalism or multiculturalism, I find it very difficult to think in a world without borders, the cultures are too damn different.

I don't see any problems when you go to another country and adapt yourself though, the other way around is not fair imo.

Let the debate happen as long as it is respectful.
"I feel like racists like myself should have platform where we can voice our opinions without being told we're wrong and our views are backwards and disgusting. It's great that more people who are well known are now able to speak out like this so that it normalises it for us ordinary folk. Oh yeah, please don't lampoon me, folks. Please respect me and my racist views."
 
I see more people speaking up on this issue from now on. Like they are not ashamed to express their real feelings and I find it good.

It's not nice when a lot o people hide their thoughts on important problems like immigration. And I personally don't see anything wrong when people go against globalism or multiculturalism, I find it very difficult to think in a world without borders, the cultures are too damn different.

I don't see any problems when you go to another country and adapt yourself though, the other way around is not fair imo.

Let the debate happen as long as it is respectful.
What is American culture?
 
How well do you think Jon would fare in naming ten things that aren't Jackie Chan

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Hahaha

now i regret posting on subreddit

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To be fair, his subreddit seems to be tearing itself apart right now.
 
Three out of four not bad just not Madagascar. you must either be psychic or those countries along with Egypt, Kenya and maybe Libya are the only countries people know.

They're usually the common ones because:
Zimbabwe - Has one of the more internationally infamous dictators, and the joke of its hyperinflation
South Africa - Home of Nelson Mandela, who's popular with white people in a fashion similar to MLK
Nigeria - Major economy on the continent, internationally infamous because of Boko Haram.
Egypt - Westerners love their pyramids
Kenya - Popular image of Safaris, suspected birth place of a recent President who was actually born on the opposite side of the planet
Libya - Terrorists, and one of the major interventions of recent years.
Madagascar - That one movie franchise.

Now, ask them about the history of those countries in general, or what some of their neighbours are, and the average person will struggle. Jon didn't even realise Zaire is not a thing anymore.

Glad I went to sleep, because I don't think I could have tolerated that stream. I dropped from following his twitter and YouTube account back after the women's march stuff, but this still feels so frustrating, as someone who spent his latter teens with Jon's material. The man used to make me laugh my ass off, now I can only render a frustrated sigh because what in the actual fuck.
 
Destiny does say near the end of the stream that even though what Jon said was completely stupid and unjustifiable, he doesnt want people to try and get him fired.

How many people here agree with that statement?

As one of the people that Jon was talking about I disagree. This isn't just an academic debate where you can shake hands at the end and agree to disagree. The same vile shit that Jon is dog whistling about is the same stuff that radicalizes young white dudes to shoot up black churches/muslim mosques.

But hey just opinions lets not go after the dudes livelihood.
 
just a week ago I found out his family is iranian like mine and I was laughing at his farsi jokes, now I'm seeing all this shit, like what the fuck lmao. It seems like he hasn't evaluated his own views critically at all. He's still a really funny guy but he needs to sit down and think hard about this shit he's saying and why he thinks this way
 
South Africa first ��

Well, given that it has Africa in the name, I'd name that shit off the top of my head too. :P

(This coming from someone who travels abroad more than most people in the US do to even our border countries)

Listening to this is eye opening, given his past views on some things he said. Shameful.

(I don't keep up with internet gossip as much as some of my twitter friends do.)
 
The "diluting the gene pool" bit, aside from being an offensive statement, is dumb. If anything, a more diverse gene pool is healthier for a human population.

Its the whole idea behind mating. Faster and better adaption to the environment. Humanity didn't survive trough "pure" inbreeding.

And on a metalevel, we always benefitted trough the exchange of ideas and knowledge. Part of the reason why YouTube is as big as it is, ironically enough.
 
One thing I learned from this, is that Desiny knows jack shit about Europe and claims the US is completelydifferent from europe and that they are not connected at all.
 
Ay ay ay, I've never seen such a meltdown on Switch like this before. It takes effort to be as retarded as JonTron. He really talks out of his ass with zero actual data and keeps comparing Europe to America, I couldn't stop laughing and cringing all through the video. Then in the end I felt sad because there are probably a lot of people like him with no idea what's going around them.

Like how the fuck do you end up being a white racist piece of shit when your own parents are from Iran and Hungaria, holy fucking shit.
Not to take away from your general point, but please don't use "retarded" as a substitute for stupid.

Jon actually got a lot of heat for it a while ago and dug his hole deeper by playing a semantics game about it on twitter ("Oh but 'dumb' and 'lame' used to be offensive too so get over it SJWs!!!"). It was one of my first tip-offs that he was kind of an asshole.
 
Some of this is so overt and so borderline comically stereotypical white surpemecist talking points that a tiny part of my brain wondered if this was some kind of ploy to get dipshit racist young people to follow him and then he calls them all out for believing nonsense.

But it doesn't seem to be that way, just a rich YouTuber who read too many bad things on the internet.
 
Man, I used to be a big fan of his content, both on his own channel and on Game Grumps, but I'm unsubbing from his channel now. This has just gone too far. It's pretty fucked up that a guy with Iranian heritage has developed these kinds of views.

At least the current Grumps crew seem like great people. Now the answer to "Are Arin and Jon still friends?" is "God, I hope not."
 
People like JonTron are gonna look back ten years from now and wonder why they tried to hard to appeal to the 4chan demographic.
 
One thing I learned from this, is that Desiny knows jack shit about Europe and claims the US is completelydifferent from europe and that they are not connected at all.
Also spouts the myth of America is the most diverse country in the world. It doesn't make him a bigot or an asshole or anything, he seems more knowledgeable on some stuff than me but that is an ignorant statement.
 
He time and time again says that what happens in europe has nothing to do with the US.

I'm just disccussing that part, I'm not against him regarding the other stuff he said.

No, he was saying it had nothing to do with what they were debating. Jon kept using Europe as an example of what could happen to the erosion of white culture in America and that is not comparable at all. Destiny was never saying that Europe does not affect America
 
One thing I learned from this, is that Desiny knows jack shit about Europe and claims the US is completelydifferent from europe and that they are not connected at all.

They have some similarities but major differences as well. The american left would be considered conservative in europe. Universal healthcare isnt a debate in the developed countries, gun control is a much more stricter but I do agree that they are connected.
 
Also spouts the myth of America is the most diverse country in the world. It doesn't make him a bigot or an asshole or anything, he seems more knowledgeable on some stuff than me but that is an ignorant statement.

Yeah, that just seemed like hyperbole to counteract Jon's argument. If that's as inaccurate as Destiny gets, though, then that's really not bad at all
 
Yes i can confirm Europe is falling apart. There are literally riots on the streets as i am typing this i fear for my life. Oh wait.
 
Europe and US are not the same, ok, but claiming that things that happen in one place do not affect the other side is just wrong.

Does he actually say that? He says US and Europe are fundementally different regions with different problems and they are not really comparable. An issue arising with Muslims in Europe and US can be caused by different reasons, it is not the same thing.
 
The important thing is, why is racism and sexism such a big problem in game fandom. How do we allow this to happen?

Boogie revealed himself to be an alt-right gamergate, PewDiePie just recently obviously, and JonTron of late such as this thread. Not to mention the whole GameGate movement.

What leads to many gamers to turn to hatred to females and minorities in such an alarmingly high numbers?

We need an open and frank discussion, how do we stop the radicalization of prominent gamers from joining hate groups such as the alt-right?
 
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