chromatic9
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Greg coping by taking off his shirt and drinking beers on the roof right now to cope:
The other guy (Tim?) looks like he wants to report from rooftop with a microphone instead of holding a beer.
Colin Moriarty is leaving Kinda Funny Games.
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The other guy (Tim?) looks like he wants to report from rooftop with a microphone instead of holding a beer.
Square Triangle
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So you just keep asking questions and making assumptions, if you actually listened to anything he's said in podcasts- you'd have answers.
Audioboxer
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I think it was unconsciously to be honest. Quite clearly he wanted a future in politics, but as another post pointed out to me, I think Colin's ego would have preferred a good few weeks of KF send-offs, rather than a car doing 90mph off a bridge and erupting into flames.
Earlier I seen Jaffe being mentioned as hosting a show (seems to just be him saying on his twitter, not actually confirmed???), well, I'm sure that will go down great
lol. Although, I'm going to guess hardly anyone around here likes Jaffe anyway.
DarkConfidant
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I'm dying of laughter here!
Dirtyshubb
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So no mention of any of the group I see.
Colin has just become bitter and can't even muster a public thanks or defend them from the #istandwithcolin crowd.
And yet Gregg and Tim are apparently the back stabbers.
yup shits fucked up
OMG LOL.
I fucking hate the fact that Colin is leaving , he was always my favorite member of KF, but that video is fucking comedy gold.
lowhighkang_LHK
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I like David. He sent me a signed copy of God of War 1 back when it was released. Met him again, so many years later at PSX. Had a nice conversation.
Cool dude.
Cool dude.
Anton Sugar
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I think it was unconsciously to be honest. Quite clearly he wanted a future in politics, but as another post pointed out to me, I think Colin's ego would have preferred a good few weeks of KF send-offs, rather than a car doing 90mph off a bridge and erupting into flames.
Earlier I seen Jaffe being mentioned as hosting a show (seems to just be him saying on his twitter, not actually confirmed???), well, I'm sure that will go down great
lol. Although, I'm going to guess hardly anyone around here likes Jaffe anyway.
I'm...kinda okay with that series of tweets. It *is* an example of a sort of "invisible" and "benign" sexism that is, nonetheless, sexism. Colin isn't going full Return of Kings.
It's sexism, all the same. "Diet Sexism", sure, but that's insidious in its own way.
RedAssedApe
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i don't think greg has ever called him his best friend either. he frequently referenced someone else not related his show as his best friend.
also not to be confused by the moniker they always use to label their supporters aka "kind of funny best friends"
I'm sure a lot of GAFers like and respect the developer of "Driving Edgelords: the Game" and "Angry Edgelord: the Game."
MakeMeFeelAlive
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I don't understand where this conversation on this thread has gone. I'll be the first to admit that I'm not Colin's biggest fan. My issue with him persinally has never been his views, which I disagree with. My issue was how he seemingly saw and spoke about other people's views.
He always challenged people for being closed off and too sensitive. But people who constantly criticize others for being too critical and/or sensitive, are inherently too sensitive also. My other complaint about Colin was how dismissive he was of other's views.
For example, on the podcast he would disagree with someone's views and positions and to support his position he would respond that he has a degree in history from northeastern and that he enjoys reading about politics. That in itself wouldn't be crass, but many would say in condescensingly. Obviously you can't ever know what is in someone's mind or heart, so you have to go off the context and tone. I found that to be off putting. As someone with multiple degrees including political science degrees and a law degree, I vehemently disagree with many of his views and would be insulted if he gave me such a reponse.
I have no idea what he will do now or what choices he makes. I don't know him at all so it doesn't affect me in any way, shape or form. I just see this while thing as being somewhat weird.
Oh, and as a side note. I very much hate that the gadsen flag has somewhat been taken over by the tea party and others. It was one of my most favorite historical things and I almost feel embarrassed by using it now because ifntbeir association.
He always challenged people for being closed off and too sensitive. But people who constantly criticize others for being too critical and/or sensitive, are inherently too sensitive also. My other complaint about Colin was how dismissive he was of other's views.
For example, on the podcast he would disagree with someone's views and positions and to support his position he would respond that he has a degree in history from northeastern and that he enjoys reading about politics. That in itself wouldn't be crass, but many would say in condescensingly. Obviously you can't ever know what is in someone's mind or heart, so you have to go off the context and tone. I found that to be off putting. As someone with multiple degrees including political science degrees and a law degree, I vehemently disagree with many of his views and would be insulted if he gave me such a reponse.
I have no idea what he will do now or what choices he makes. I don't know him at all so it doesn't affect me in any way, shape or form. I just see this while thing as being somewhat weird.
Oh, and as a side note. I very much hate that the gadsen flag has somewhat been taken over by the tea party and others. It was one of my most favorite historical things and I almost feel embarrassed by using it now because ifntbeir association.
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RedAssedApe
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i think at this point a lot of gamers have forgotten that jaffe was even involved with god of war (cory balrog took over that mantel) and might not even know what twisted metal is.
its not really a good thing when you're more known for things you say than product you put out. you can only ride the coat tails of your past successes for so long before all that good will runs out.
its not really a good thing when you're more known for things you say than product you put out. you can only ride the coat tails of your past successes for so long before all that good will runs out.
I think Jaffe explains himself well in interviews and he's well aware of his personal demons. I think guys like Jontron, who still sound like garbage when given a platform to speak on are the ones I take issue with. And no I'm not going to defend everything Jaffe has said, but every interview I've seen of him he comes off as a decent guy.I think it was unconsciously to be honest. Quite clearly he wanted a future in politics, but as another post pointed out to me, I think Colin's ego would have preferred a good few weeks of KF send-offs, rather than a car doing 90mph off a bridge and erupting into flames.
Earlier I seen Jaffe being mentioned as hosting a show (seems to just be him saying on his twitter, not actually confirmed???), well, I'm sure that will go down great
lol. Although, I'm going to guess hardly anyone around here likes Jaffe anyway.
As far as those tweets go I think people are actually in agreement with what Jaffe is saying, they were more troubled by Colin follow up and vitriol from the supporters rather than the joke.
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Human Trashcan
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word, all the heroes of Greek myth were Angry Edgelords anyway. I enjoyed Angry Edgelord 1, 2 and 3 a lot, some of the more dubious elements aside (enough has been said about that wheel "puzzle" in GOW3). Jaffe's gone a bit off the deep end though, but just the Crazy Uncle kind of deep end, not the "oh he's on Glenn Beck now" kind of deep end. Just stop him from talking politics and I'm sure he's okay. He just gets very defensive about... everything.
Audioboxer
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Fair comments. Colin's real dagger and car goes off the rails moment was arguably calling everyone humourless sacks of shit.
The Rubin report interview was alright. Pretty unoffensive and basic. The issue from it though for Colin was inflating his ego sky high and acting like he was now the man cause Dave liked him. An ego is a tricky beast. It can inspire confidence in one's self, and it can also be a snake eating itself. Some modesty and humility are really needed in life to garner true respect from masses. An out of control ego usually ends up coinciding with arrogance, ignorance and other roll your eyes bullshit.
After watching his interview with Dave Rubin, i got a whole beter picture of Colin as a person. His opinion and thought comes very genuine to me.
And i hope people wil also have an open mind and watch the whole interviews, and form his own opinion about Colin!
Link youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxQbfn8cL-8
Becouse if i read this topic, he is maybe the bigest bigot + bully + sexist + racist + Nazi in whole America... And trust me he is not.!
And i hope people wil also have an open mind and watch the whole interviews, and form his own opinion about Colin!
Link youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxQbfn8cL-8
Becouse if i read this topic, he is maybe the bigest bigot + bully + sexist + racist + Nazi in whole America... And trust me he is not.!
Hydranockz
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It's almost as if the way he says he acts and the way he actually acts are two different things!
It's fine IMO to be outspoken, but it also means you have to be careful or you end up putting your foot in your mouth more often than not. I liked the first two GoW games and feel they should be recognized for their rollercoaster pacing and big setpieces while reinventing or at least reinvigorating a certain type of action game, but the formula got stale quick and beyond the gameplay the content was eyerolling and a little Part Of The Problem. New one looks interesting though.
Would you say this is some kind of "safe space", NS?
Jaffe has a point, we do play with untrue and negative stereotypes of men a lot. And frankly, I was the only guy in a lot of my classes growing up and that made me the "cute guy who was smarter than my female classmates but still goofily wrongheaded as guys are" to both teachers and my classmates. Definitely not the case in college where my courses of study were disturbingly lacking in female students (theoretical math and philosophy), but that was my childhood experience, which had it's annoying side. People were simultaneously dismissive and enthralled by my presence.
Moreover, the growing impossibility of being classically masculine is very much a crushing force in modern society and has a lot to do with the alt right coming to be. We're at a point where we still want men to be men when we are also trying to erase the social inequities that support that status. It's a messy growing period.
That said, stereotypes against men don't (god damn auto getting rid of that) come in in a climate where women, in aggregate, dominate the levers of power, whereas stereotypes of women do come in in such a respective climate.
Both are bad. Both have a real effect on shaping people and society, but one is more pernicious in the current context.
1.21Gigawatts
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My best guess:
With his opinion pieces and tweets he attracted the Gamergate- and "feminism is cancer"-crowd to KindaFunny and the other guys weren't fine with that at all, but Colin didn't want to keep his opinions to himself.
I think Colin is currently pretty oblivious to the kind of scum he attracted and if he is now trying to further cater to this crowd he will be miserable once he realizes what he gave up and what he gained.
mckmas8808
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Why is it if you make a charactor Black or Brown, they have to be "different" to the point of possibliy misrepresenting them? Just literally make their skin black or brown with the same script and BAM! Nothing else needs to be done.
You can make one of the characters gay in FF XV and just treat it as normal as a straight relationship in the game. There doesn't have to be a reason they aren't white/straight/male.
HOW IN THE WORLD DID GREG KNOW!?!?! It's like he's literally from the future. Word for word was SPOT on with what ended up happening. And Colin did a huge 180 degree change.
GearDraxon
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...are you kidding me with this shit? The "stereotype" (it's not, we'll get back to this) of the dopey/schlubby guy getting a hot, smart wife is the same as "nagging wife making my life harder?"
First off, the schlub husband / hot wife isn't a stereotype. It's a trope. It's because men choose the shows that get made, and they like seeing hot women, especially when those hot women are depicted as married to / putting up with schlubby men like themselves.
Secondly, this is a false equivalence because the "nagging wife" trope is directly tied to the "women complain about everything" stereotype. Men are stoic, strong, and deal with things, women whine about it. Read articles about Megyn Kelly's success, and cringe as one of her keys to success is "not complaining" - men don't view women's problems as comparable to their own, and so when a woman brings up issues, it's complaining. Read the recent Uber complaints, and see how a woman's repeated reports of harassment / sexist treatment led to, I shit you not, the company saying "well, *you* seem to be the common element in all of these..."
Men don't get denied jobs because they are dopey, schlubby husbands. Women who are perceived as "complainers?" Good luck.
Lashley
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what did he say?
1.21Gigawatts
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I tuned in and all I saw was two guys talking about what kind of pussy lips they like.
Greg knew about Colins political opinions and I think he sensed that they could be cause for some trouble at some point.
Of course, the anachronistic stereotype of men being useless outside of work comes from the same place as the anachronistic stereotype of women being nagging harpies, so trying to play it off as "A is just as bad as B" misses a whole lot of context and underlying truths behind why we both intuit and reinforce these defined roles for folks.
H.Cornerstone
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It's about 42 minutes in.
And also, Joe Rogan is grossly misinformed as to what happened.
benicillin
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You can just stop there usually.
harrisk954
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You are right on with this observation. While on their podcasts, Colin always called Greg his best friend (
or maybe it was Greg who called Colin his best friend
meanspartan
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Ok, two things:
1. Greg Miller was on Beyond from episode 1 til he left IGN.
2. Colin may not have been on at the start, but he came not too long after and was there for the vast majority of its run.
Peak podcast Beyond was that 2010-2013 era that Greg and Colin were critical to. The current show is solid enough, I listen occasionally, but it isn't Beyond.
The rest of your post talking about renaming the internet is ridiculous, that's obviously not what I was trying to say.
Joe was mentioning a NEWS article about Colin that said Colin made a "Racist Women's Joke".
Just wierd how this news has spread to all sorts of pod casts.
As a small l libertarian, it never ceases to amuse me how much most people on gaf understand approximately nothing about libertarianism.
I have relatively little knowledge of Colin, but I just saw his interview with Dave Rubin, and he sounded like a typical moderate republican to me, not really libertarian in any way and he didn't even claim to be.
He definitely isn't some libertarian extremist. Some of you people badly need to read some Lysander Spooner or William Lloyd Garrison.
I have relatively little knowledge of Colin, but I just saw his interview with Dave Rubin, and he sounded like a typical moderate republican to me, not really libertarian in any way and he didn't even claim to be.
He definitely isn't some libertarian extremist. Some of you people badly need to read some Lysander Spooner or William Lloyd Garrison.
Dangansona
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Did anyone actually watch/listen to his appearances on Glen Beck and Rubin Report? What did he say?
mckmas8808
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It was so weird to see Colin so sure that he would never leave. Like dude.........
Yes, as soon as he said he got fired or "resigned" because of the joke, it kinda urked me because Joe has many many listeners...
harrisk954
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Don't know if anyone saw this on Greg's Twitter:..
https://twitter.com/GameOverGreggy/status/841680940732620800
https://twitter.com/GameOverGreggy/status/841680940732620800
Audioboxer
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Rubin report show was pretty benign, but funnily enough so was Glen Beck. I've never listened to Beck before, so all I know from the 15 minutes is he is obviously a Christian Conservative (that's often a right good mix in America), but Colin was actually okay on his show. Given Becks audience, I assume they might be anti-gay marriage, and Colin did at least get his words in to support that (although Beck actually seemed to be okay with it, as the main thing seemed to be small government so no one should care what individuals want to do). Other than that just small government statements and some free speech stuff. I was expecting much worse tuning into the Glen Beck bit. It was only 15 minutes.
Jaffe does that all the time, but he's one of those people who often just get an "Oh Jaffe". I still remember him bumbling onto the PSX stage and swearing, then asking is it okay to cuss. He's that kind of guy, first one to drop a good ole f-bomb for no reason then ask afterwards if it was okay lol.
Dangansona
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Gotcha. It just seemed weird to me that they were pulling in Colin considering it sounds like neither has an attachment to gaming. Was wondering how that was addressed.
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Devs: We want to tell a story about these four dudes on a bachelor party trip
Non devs: Make one gay, another a woman, and also make one of them black.
Devs: We want to tell this story about a gay couple.
Non Devs: No, you can tell a story about a hetero white couple.
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Devs: We want to tell a story about these four dudes on a bachelor party trip
Non devs: Cool
Devs: We want to tell this story about a gay couple.
Non Devs: Cool
I haven't seen an instance of diversity for the sake of diversity in games, I've only seen things become "guy on a cover with a gun" or hear stories about publishers or marketing teams shy away from diversity because money.
I don't want diversity in my games for the sake of diversity just like I didn't want another space marine with a gun on the cover of Doom. I don't care who I play as in a game, I'm playing it because it's fun or has a good story/experience. I want there to be a more diverse selection of stories and experiences in games that are good. If more of those happen to include more non white, non straight, multi cultural characters? Awesome.
I've done some work for a non profit theatre that only told plays about diverse characters and cultures and it was awesome. To know that if someone wanted to broaden their horizon or see a play that spoke to them unlike other plays might, there was a place they could go.
I think the biggest problem is making games is a lot harder to get into than any other art form, and we need to do a better job at making it more accessible to all people. So while we treat the symptoms, we also need to be working on a cure.
That's the argument against diversity for the sake of diversity.
Also, the mis-information and hyperbole in here is ridiculous. Colin left, he seems to have things in the works and will be sharing them on a GameOverGreggy show in the near future. The friends he mentioned in the facebook post are very long time friends of his that aren't vocal on social media or the show. Greg hasn't taken any of this well. Colin's catalyst like tweet was sexist, but the extent of ridicule and backlash is ridiculous because if a comedian made that joke at a comedy club no one would give a shit, and seeing how no one is talking about them it proves my point. It was a dumb joke, Colin should not quit his day job... well shit...
Devs: We want to tell a story about these four dudes on a bachelor party trip
Non devs: Make one gay, another a woman, and also make one of them black.
Devs: We want to tell this story about a gay couple.
Non Devs: No, you can tell a story about a hetero white couple.
- GOOD -
Devs: We want to tell a story about these four dudes on a bachelor party trip
Non devs: Cool
Devs: We want to tell this story about a gay couple.
Non Devs: Cool
I haven't seen an instance of diversity for the sake of diversity in games, I've only seen things become "guy on a cover with a gun" or hear stories about publishers or marketing teams shy away from diversity because money.
I don't want diversity in my games for the sake of diversity just like I didn't want another space marine with a gun on the cover of Doom. I don't care who I play as in a game, I'm playing it because it's fun or has a good story/experience. I want there to be a more diverse selection of stories and experiences in games that are good. If more of those happen to include more non white, non straight, multi cultural characters? Awesome.
I've done some work for a non profit theatre that only told plays about diverse characters and cultures and it was awesome. To know that if someone wanted to broaden their horizon or see a play that spoke to them unlike other plays might, there was a place they could go.
I think the biggest problem is making games is a lot harder to get into than any other art form, and we need to do a better job at making it more accessible to all people. So while we treat the symptoms, we also need to be working on a cure.
That's the argument against diversity for the sake of diversity.
Also, the mis-information and hyperbole in here is ridiculous. Colin left, he seems to have things in the works and will be sharing them on a GameOverGreggy show in the near future. The friends he mentioned in the facebook post are very long time friends of his that aren't vocal on social media or the show. Greg hasn't taken any of this well. Colin's catalyst like tweet was sexist, but the extent of ridicule and backlash is ridiculous because if a comedian made that joke at a comedy club no one would give a shit, and seeing how no one is talking about them it proves my point. It was a dumb joke, Colin should not quit his day job... well shit...
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