UK set to trigger Brexit on March 29

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Then I wonder what you need to do to be charged as a war criminal in this fucking country. Given we had thousands of soldiers go over there who managed to do tours without brazenly taking a shit on the Geneva Convention by executing prisoners I don't think the stress argument holds.

but but all sides are the same
 
Forgot about this from a few days ago

https://stv.tv/news/north/1384161-north-sea-oil-firm-reports-major-find-west-of-shetland/

But, Shhh, oil, it's absolutely useless. The price. Shhh. Useless. Just leave it be. No one needs it. Shhh.

Even although oil is still pretty much the number 1 "blood currency" in the world today.

If we go independent May can have the fantastically useful Trident, and we'll keep and handle our fantastically useless oil. Deal Tories?
 
Forgot about this from a few days ago

https://stv.tv/news/north/1384161-north-sea-oil-firm-reports-major-find-west-of-shetland/

But, Shhh, oil, it's absolutely useless. The price. Shhh. Useless. Just leave it be. No one needs it. Shhh.

Even although oil is still pretty much the number 1 "blood currency" in the world today.

If we go independent May can have the fantastically useful Trident, and we'll keep and handle our fantastically useless oil. Deal Tories?

Liberals in America: "fuck our dependence on oil - invest in renewables"
Liberals in Scotland: "hooray, new oil!"
 
Live preview of the UK come March 29:

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Well today's the day. I've loved everything the EU has ever done for me. I know we've got at least 2 more years while Teresa May defiantly refuses any and all deals proposed to her so the Tories get full control (while we still have the rights of the EU <3), but it's going to be a very shit 2 years.
 
Not with attitudes like this there won't be.

Sorry that I'm not positive about fools who can't realise they were being lied to and turkeys who voted for Christmas, as the saying goes, largely because they hate brown people.

There is literally no situation where I ever back those people as long as I live, and I will have no problems letting them know it.
 
Well today's the day. I've loved everything the EU has ever done for me. I know we've got at least 2 more years while Teresa May defiantly refuses any and all deals proposed to her so the Tories get full control (while we still have the rights of the EU <3), but it's going to be a very shit 20/40 years.

Fixed it for you. :(
 
The markets sending the GBP down a bit today. Like somehow this was unexpected, lol.
 
Well, we'll have to see whether the economy will tank as hard as some people claim. Those same people claimed the economy would tank hard after the leave vote on the referendum, but that turned out to be not entirely true.

As a continental European, I'm sad to see the UK go from the union, but I wish the Brits the best of luck in the future!
 
I'm sorry you're going through this, guys. If it makes you feel any better, there's 48% of another country across the ocean who can uniquely empathize.
 
Still can't grasp how this referendum was won and how blindly the government is going through with it despite its consequences. Good luck to all UK guys and gals, you'll need it.
 
Well, we'll have to see whether the economy will tank as hard as some people claim. Those same people claimed the economy would tank hard after the leave vote on the referendum, but that turned out to be not entirely true.

As a continental European, I'm sad to see the UK go from the union, but I wish the Brits the best of luck in the future!

Any realist would have told you it would be a slow decline into disastrous territory, as far as the UKs economy would be concerned. Us declaring to leave won't be a crash, but the future of fumbled deal talks, overbearing stress on already deprived social services, the decline of work and business in general, worsening summer floods year on year giving more and more Brits the realisation that "Oh fuck, this island isn't global warming proof!", whatever war of conquest Trump (Putin) might shoehorn us in at some point, and the creeping sensation of automation in the industry, the drain of both students and university influence on newer generations lowering the average level of intelligence, and the never decreasing birthrate...

...Stuff like that, that'll create an economic crisis. Sadly, by that point, it'll be just another crisis for whoever still hopes to improve this country.
 
My heart goes for those from the United Kingdom that didn't want this to happen.
As a fellow European, I am sad to see you go away.
 
Literally fuck anyone who voted for this.
You might not consider yourself a racist, but you supported them.

Well the most outspoken supporter of Brexit on here has some interesting views about the Romanian people.

It's not so much don't consider themselves racist, they are racist but they are too scared to openly admit it. They'd probably call someone a Paki and then say it's not racist, they say it too.
 
Not with attitudes like this there won't be.

Please, tell us all more about how having European rights and identity stripped away from people is just an attitude problem. Or about how a fucking land border being imposed in my country is merely an attitude problem on the part of Irish people.

The only attitude problem here is among those who were happy to blame the EU, and often immigrants specifically, for problems caused by domestic policy that these same people consistently voted for.
 
So here it is.

i don't even know what to say. I voted against this shit, and I've spent the past year being treated like a small minority - despite the result being damn near 50/50 split - by the political class of this country. The Tories have ridiculous control and approval, despite being the notriously nefarious Tories ffs. If you're not at least a millionaire, they don't care about you but many don't seem to understand this - for some reason people seem to think these clueless elitist assholes are a good option. Meanwhile the opposition is in the worst state it's been in, certainly during my lifetime.

A total shitshow, basically.

I think i'm just going to go and bury my head in the sand until it's time to vote in another disappointing election again or something.
 
Well the most outspoken supporter of Brexit on here has some interesting views about the Romanian people.

It's not so much don't consider themselves racist, they are racist but they are too scared to openly admit it. They'd probably call someone a Paki and then say it's not racist, they say it too.

I've heard more than enough from a neighbour about "those Romanians/Poles/Pakis etc", beyond being overtly racist itself, I wouldn't even dignify their views as 'interesting' even sarcastically, they're the same old crap it's a level of boring I never want to be subjected to again.
 
Well the most outspoken supporter of Brexit on here has some interesting views about the Romanian people.

It's not so much don't consider themselves racist, they are racist but they are too scared to openly admit it. They'd probably call someone a Paki and then say it's not racist, they say it too.

It's the same with Trump, while they say otherwise, in the end it's a mix of xenophobia and "fuck you, I got mine".
It shows what the people really think.
 
So here it is.

i don't even know what to say. I voted against this shit, and I've spent the past year being treated like a small minority - despite the result being damn near 50/50 split - by the political class of this country. The Tories have ridiculous control and approval, despite being the notriously nefarious Tories ffs. If you're not at least a millionaire, they don't care about you but many don't seem to understand this - for some reason people seem to think these clueless elitist assholes are a good option. Meanwhile the opposition is in the worst state it's been in, certainly during my lifetime.

A total shitshow, basically.

I think i'm just going to go and bury my head in the sand until it's time to vote in another disappointing election again or something.

Don't forget the influncial number of non voters who've been more disgruntled by the never ending talk of Brexit post the vote, I can imagine more than a few who were too cynical to vote at the time would gladly cast their votes now to stay just so the topic finally comes to an end. Saying the majority of Britain wanted this is a farce, the correct way of looking at it is 'the sum total of British backwards-thinking-xenophobic stupidity voted for this'.
 
Well there it is.

Article 50: May signs letter that will trigger Brexit

BBC said:
Theresa May has signed the letter that will formally begin the UK's departure from the European Union.
Giving official notice under Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty, it will be delivered to European Council president Donald Tusk later.
In a statement in the Commons, the prime minister will then tell MPs this marks "the moment for the country to come together".
It follows June's referendum which resulted in a vote to leave the EU.
Mrs May's letter will be delivered at 12:30 BST on Wednesday by the British ambassador to the EU, Sir Tim Barrow.
The prime minister, who will chair a cabinet meeting in the morning, will then make a statement to MPs confirming the countdown to the UK's departure from the EU is under way.

This is the most noteworthy for me

She will promise to "represent every person in the whole United Kingdom" during the negotiations - including EU nationals, whose status after Brexit has yet to be settled.

Translation "I will only represent those who voted to leave". It's also funny how she talks a lot about unity yet this very vote split the UK and she basically is only appealing to one side.
 
"It's time for this country to come together"... yet you're only representing the views of one side of the vote. Get to fuck.
 
Well there it is.

Article 50: May signs letter that will trigger Brexit



This is the most noteworthy for me



Translation "I will only represent those who voted to leave". It's also funny how she talks a lot about unity yet this very vote split the UK and she basically is only appealing to one side.

Translation on the last bit could also mean, "I will represent you EU nationalists, the version of you that is packing up your weird, European shit and getting out of our land." Since, hey, she won't be here long after the honeymoon period of being the PM who declared Article 50 is over. She herself doesn't like this situation, and the public at large hasn't even really turned on her yet. Can you imagine how quick she'll want to bail from the limelight once the trade deals start falling through? A part of me thinks she can't wait to be replaced, similar to how Cameron bounced the fuck out once things started to actually look bad for him and his wallet.
 
Translation on the last bit could also mean, "I will represent you EU nationalists, the version of you that is packing up your weird, European shit and getting out of our land." Since, hey, she won't be here long after the honeymoon period of being the PM who declared Article 50 is over. She herself doesn't like this situation, and the public at large hasn't even really turned on her yet. Can you imagine how quick she'll want to bail from the limelight once the trade deals start falling through? A part of me thinks she can't wait to be replaced, similar to how Cameron bounced the fuck out once things started to actually look bad for him and his wallet.

I mean if she didn't want this why did she push for such a hard brexit, while basically trying to take complete control of the situation against the house of lords. It's the torries unfortunately she's going to stay and Britain will have to deal with Thatcher 2.0. It's ironic really the areas that voted to leave are the ones going to be gutted and left 4 dead over an area like London. The Scottish independence 2 looks more and more plausible now.
 
This is your chance to sell a whole bunch of GBPUSD to see if the efficient market hypothesis is total bullshit

Knowing the silly way currency and stock markets work it wouldn't shock me if GBP actually went up as the 'uncertainty' of when negotiations start is over
 
We are a nation divided. 48% of us are being dragged away from something we liked, getting stripped of our EU citizenship. I have zero support for the government.
 
I mean if she didn't want this why did she push for such a hard brexit, while basically trying to take complete control of the situation against the house of lords. It's the torries unfortunately she's going to stay and Britain will have to deal with Thatcher 2.0. It's ironic really the areas that voted to leave are the ones going to be gutted and left 4 dead over an area like London. The Scottish independence 2 looks more and more plausible now.

Don't get confused about what Troy MP Teresa May, and Tory PM Teresa May would want, as proven they're two different things. Her new job is what is pushing her along this line of Hard Brexit. If she wasn't in any sort of hot-seat over the last 8 years, she'd be brewing as much political unrest in the Tory camp to have stopped this mess that she could, as it only seeks to damage her interests. But she wasn't, she was in the public eye, being a cabinet minister, so any common sense she may have had plays second fiddle to her instincts to cling to power for as long as possible. That's what motivated her to take this job, and disregarding the left wing side of the public, she's had one of the least turbulent receptions to the job in recent years; maybe not the sycophantic display put out for Cameron during his first election, but certainly better than Brown or late Blair. And she has the best focus group figures of all time about her public and the popular opinion: the referendum signalled we want to leave. She has only to pander to that group and she's a shoe-in, right?

All of that, is the honeymoon period I was talking about. Short term, it's all coming up Millh- May. Once that dies after the talks begins in June, she won't have the stubbornness or the zealous Tory cabinet support that Thatcher had back in the day. Others like Boris would be far more in keeping with that mentality. May won't be remembered as a tyrant, just as a lapdog to Cameron, Johnson, the Brexiteers and Trump. Nothing more. Whoever takes over after her, they're gonna be a lot more dangerous.
 
Don't get confused about what Troy MP Teresa May, and Tory PM Teresa May would want, as proven they're two different things. Her new job is what is pushing her along this line of Hard Brexit. If she wasn't in any sort of hot-seat over the last 8 years, she'd be brewing as much political unrest in the Tory camp to have stopped this mess that she could, as it only seeks to damage her interests. But she wasn't, she was in the public eye, being a cabinet minister, so any common sense she may have had plays second fiddle to her instincts to cling to power for as long as possible. That's what motivated her to take this job, and disregarding the left wing side of the public, she's had one of the least turbulent receptions to the job in recent years; maybe not the sycophantic display put out for Cameron during his first election, but certainly better than Brown or late Blair. And she has the best focus group figures of all time about her public and the popular opinion: the referendum signalled we want to leave. She has only to pander to that group and she's a shoe-in, right?

All of that, is the honeymoon period I was talking about. Short term, it's all coming up Millh- May. Once that dies after the talks begins in June, she won't have the stubbornness or the zealous Tory cabinet support that Thatcher had back in the day. Others like Boris would be far more in keeping with that mentality. May won't be remembered as a tyrant, just as a lapdog to Cameron, Johnson, the Brexiteers and Trump. Nothing more. Whoever takes over after her, they're gonna be a lot more dangerous.


Who would really replace her. We're stuck between torries and labour and both parties don't look good. Don't get me wrong I don't like Teresa "No international students" May. But really who in the torries is going to take this job. When Cameron left they played game of hot potato for the PM spot.

Because a soft Brexit isn't possible without freedom of movement which is the main reason for people voting for Brexit.

Right I just remembered that outlandish claim that the EU would give them a good deal while removing freedom of movement for the UK. I swear some people's delusional on this stuff shows how smug the UK is about itself.


Whenever Brexit comes to mind I think of this video.

Man the muslamic ray guns. The best comment on that video was "These guys know highschool is free right?"
 
I feel for you guys in the UK, at least in the US Trump has so far been hampered down and limited by the checks and balances system which will mitigate the damage he can do and we can still clean it up after 4 years. I hope something similar can happen over the next two years to limit the damage it will do to the UK.
 
Who would really replace her. We're stuck between torries and labour and both parties don't look good. Don't get me wrong I don't like Teresa "No international students" May. But really who in the torries is going to take this job. When Cameron left they played game of hot potato for the PM spot.



Right I just remembered that outlandish claim that the EU would give them a good deal while removing freedom of movement for the UK. I swear some people's delusional on this stuff shows how smug the UK is about itself.




Man the muslamic ray guns. The best comment on that video was "These guys know highschool is free right?"

I couldn't get past the first 25 secs of the video, it was too much, I never even heard him mention Muslamic ray guns, my god...

On the quoted bit about who'd replace her, immediately, perhaps another nothing Tory cabinet minister, so I take back the immediacy of me saying her replacement was the one to look out for, but what I was driving at is the likes of Boris Johnson, who has only unanimously got everything he ever wanted out of all this mess eventually taking it. And make no mistake, he'd LOVE to be PM, be he is absolutely nothing like the bumbling idiot he likes to portray to the press. He's steering clear of the mess of actually 'dealing' with EU trade deals, as whoever is unfortunate enough (May here) to have that job will be laughed out of half the meetings, and deal with an ever growing hatred from the public when the rest of us begin to realise "Oh shit! We're fucked! PM! You're fucking up!". The really insidious members of the Right will start acting up the more desperate the British public starts to get. That is what I mean by 'more dangerous' leaders. I'm not talking the next few years here, I mean the next few decades.
 
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