Honestly, what does Microsoft need to do with Scorpio to solidify your purchase?

Lighthouse, affordable VR compatible with PC, and It'll be my first MS console, that's if they actually deliver in software.
 
badnewsbeers said:
New fucking IP. I've been an MS fan from day one and by Christ, I see nothing NEW. Where is the new franchise like gears, fable, halo? Where is any risk taking?
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This basically. I bought og xbox and 360 on day 1 but still haven't picked one up this gen.


If the next Halo was stupendously good that might make me pick one up.
 
In a universe where I wouldn't already be getting one, I'd say Rare has to nail the fuck out of the Sea of Thieves launch. The game has potential, it just needs to realize it.

Oh, and Original Xbox Backwards Compatibility.

I'm getting one regardless.
 
Games! I couldn't care less about other features, as long as they're not intrusive on your overall experience. Buuuuuuuuuuut there's nothing that's really interesting coming out on there apart from Sea of Thieves, and that's still quite a ways off. For me, the only games on Xbox are Halo: MCC, which was destroyed by Microsoft and 343 fucking up colosally. Halo 5 is fun, but I enjoy other games more. Finally, Gears 4 is pretty much my other main Xbox game. I've spent more time on BC games than I have on any of those except MCC.

On the other hand, Nintendo Switch is coming out and has games that look awesome - Zelda was amazing and new. Mario Kart is old but finally adding Boo and new characters, Splatoon 2 looks just as good as the first one (which I had issues with, but it's still a solid game), and Super Mario: Oddysey looks amazing too. On top of that, a new Pokemon is most likely coming out. I can definitely fault Nintendo's launch for being barebones in terms of supply, console features, etc., but Nintendo delivers with quality game experiences and MS hasn't been able to do that with Xbone to me.

+ I haven't seen much if any new IP from MS. Nintendo hasn't really either aside from Splatoon, but Breath of the Wild and Oddysey are/look like HUGE splits from the norm, to the point where they almost are new IPs.
 
I guess if they had some insane exclusives that I absolutely must have, I'd get one eventually, but as it stands, it just seems like an Xbone with more juice to me and that's not cutting it.
 
They'd have to put out games that top Naughty Dog, and that's not going to happen. The extra power won't make much difference in multiplatform games because I'm pretty stuck to the PSN platform now.

Oh, and this would have been nice...

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There's nothing they can do. My gaming PC is already more powerful than the Scorpio is purported to be, and Microsoft seems to be doing a decent enough job of porting their games over to it. I'm sure Scorpio has its niche, but I'm not part of it.
 
They would need to bash in my PC with a sledgehammer.

But honestly, I am seeing literally nothing on offer that could sway me back. Backwards compatibility would be nice and is exclusive, but even many of those classics are available in remastered form on PS4/PC and I'm not in a rush to spend $300+ to replay the rest.

Halo is on a huge downward spiral. Gears isn't much better. Forza is lovely on my PC. What reason is there for a slightly juiced Xbox One in my life?
 
The Flash said:
Release a machine that does everything that the XB1 does now but better
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Same. I enjoy the Xbox One for what it is now, but just want better performance, which has been my issue with the system since its launch. All I want is an Xbox One with PS4 Pro level performance at minimum.

At this point it's more of a question of what could they do for me not to get one.
 
Having sold my Xbox One after not enjoying pretty much anything about it, I think I'm fine. PS4 Pro and the Switch got me covered. The only thing that would even make me remotely think about the Scorpio is Lost Odyssey 2 at this point. And after what they did to Scalebound, I can't fathom that happening. I'm sure the price will be insane too. I'm completely out of their demographic at this point.
 
I had an XBO at launch but I just don't feel the need to replace it. I had plenty of issues with the hardware and the games were never there... not that they don't have good titles, but they don't have anything that I -need- to play now that Halo has been dragged through the mud.

I'd rather see them invest heavily in software than anything but since they're moving all of that to PC as well, they're no longer interested in that as a point of differentiation. I don't play enough online to worry about whether PS Plus or XBL is better - Plus is fine for what I need it for. They're just marking themselves out and tbh I'm kind of surprised Scorpio even exists.
 
even if my current xbox one broke down, i won't even think about buying scorpio unless they give us good games that are not just their holy triangle
 
Honestly, never owned an Xbox and I will probably never do. Don't like the brand, their buisness models, not a big fan of Microsoft overall, don't like how the approach gaming (not investing in new IPs, not building great first party studios and basically bribing devs for timed exclusivities, runinng good studios down the ground by forcing them to release sequels to their popular franchises, anti consumer policies, kinect, etc).

The main reason why I purchase consoles is to get exclusives, and frankly, Xbox doesn't really have anything I absolutely want to play... It's mostly multiplatform titles or games I can play on my gaming PC with better rez and buy for cheaper too. I'm not rich, so I can't exactly purchase three + different consoles per generation, so I usually pich the one with the best exclusives / hardware / mindset / consumer practices, and learn to live with missing a couple "nice" exclusives every now and then. And honestl, I don't care one bit about Halo, Gears and Forza, so yeah, not interested. Just like I don't care about most nintendo first party titles, meaning I skip buying nintendo each generation (they really need to go multiplatform one day).

I also hate the very concept of these "mid generation upgrades", basically screwing every early adoption and forcing them to buy new consoles way before the end of the generation proper, and I will boycott PS pro and Scorpio because of this.

So yeah, I'm a lost cause...
 
Extraordinary games like Forza and Gears which were not available on PlayStation or Nintendo consoles made me buy an XBOX360 back in the day. Would do again.
 
As a PS4+Pro / Switch owner, in much more likely to build a gaming PC than buy an Xbox. I don't believe there is anything MS can do to get me to buy in to their ecosystem anymore.

I have given their consoles many a chance in the beginning with the OGXbox, but I was honestly more interested in hacking it and keeping up with the progress and development of XBMC and as an emulation machine than anything else. I definitely enjoyed many games including Halo, PGR and DOA Volleyball.

Then got a 360 on launch day as I was hankering for a HD system and their launch was hype AF with Sony seemingly stuck in development hell with their insistence on including a blu-ray diode in their PS3.

The 360 was a fabulously polished console (except for the RROD), and GeoW was phenomenal. I then got a PS3 on launch day and I was like... "this is it?". I preferred everything MS were doing in terms of gaming. They had all the killer exclusive franchises and were making many third-party deals. Super Stardust HD wasn't as good as Geometry Wars 2 IMO. I was losing faith in Sony and their ability to compete against MS and felt as though I was fully converting. That was until I played and completed Uncharted 1. I sold my 360 the day after. Turns out that was a fantastic decision and I haven't looked back.

Today, there is no way I will own both a PlayStation Console and an Xbox. It's one or the other, not both. And certainly not when I didn't even see a justification for it back then before the economic recession and PSN was absolutely free to use.

I just went and cancelled Netflix(4K package), Spotify, iCloud (200GB) storage, Apple Music and I have no TV subscriptions of any kind and today I went with my girlfriend CD shopping. Picked up Morcheeba and Cat Steven's Tea for the tillerman. (The sound is insane using my newly purchased Darkvoice Tube Amp and SCPH-1002 PS1). I'm sick of subscriptions in general and MS's business practises with regard to gaming. They lack a solid philosophy beyond making money and competing and I feel that they lack passion for gaming. I also feel that no franchises that I am interested in were created under their platform stewardship. Gears of War: Epic, Halo: Bungie, Titanfall: Respawn, PGR: Bizarre. (Forza series notwithstanding) Not to mention purchasing Rare and them not having produced a single game I'm interested in. MS lack to creative culture necessary to produce solid new Exclusive IP, or at least they have burned too many bridges for many studios to want to work with them. I don't wish for the Xbox to die, competition is good and drives the other players, but nothing about Scorpio makes it look like a must-own for me; someone who is firmly invested in Sony/Nintendo ecosystem. Scorpio may be a fantastic upgrade for existing Xbone owners, but I don't imagine that will be enough to have any sort of meaningful positive impact to MS's Xbox problem.

tl:dr: nothing they can do for me except giving it away for free and not requiring a subscription.
 
Give me one single player AAA exclusive that I can't live without. I understand they're all about service games these days and I'm fine with that being a fan of Gears, Crackdown and Forza (Horizon), but they've got to make an investment that single player fans can get behind. Right now there isn't even one exclusive AAA single player only game on the way to the platform.

Give me another third party collaboration like Sunset Overdrive, a Fable, a Banjo. Anything.

Other than the lack of single player exclusives the Xbox One has become a pretty decent machine that I've started to use as much as my other systems. Backwards compatibility is cool, (fingers crossed they bring original Xbox at some point), they have a small number of great exclusives available and half my friends chose to stay with Xbox at the beginning of the generation, while the rest left for other systems. Feels good to play some more with them.

I'm almost ready for Scorpio. Just give me that final nudge.
 
Nothing

I will preorder it as soon as they open up the store. My Xbox One S becomes my streaming Xbox, so I can play on my surface pro while wifey is watching the bachelor
 
They need to have at least one promising new IP that is exclusive to the Scorpio. If it's also coming to PC I have no reason to break my PS4/Switch/PC status quo.
 
I just want to say, this thread must please Microsoft greatly. Man, Phil must have a big ol smile on his face right now. They're on the right path for sure.

EDIT: I'm being completely serious btw.
 
For me it would be to have a varied library of exclusive games that come out year-round. They are fall/holiday heavy and then coast with a game or two here and there. But the other problem is variety. Their shooters are fantastic, and Forza is always great, but apart from those, the library can be a little lacking.

If they can make unique and varied and memorable games and place them alongside their franchises throughout the year, then I would jump back into the Xbox world.

But for now, I'll be watching with interest and hoping for the best, and getting most of it on PC (well, what will run on it once the Scorpio specs bump the requirements up some, I'm sure).
 
Not sure

Never owned a Xbox. But from a outside perspective it always just seemed like a halo/Forza machine.

As someone who never was in the Xbox echosystem

Looking back the only reasons I would had got a 360 back in the day is because a lot of my friends had a Xbox 360 than ps3 cause it was a lot cheaper. This was when I was in middle school/high school. Don't think these friends game as much anymore also I lost touch with most of em.

But yeah I got a ps4 cause Sony has more exclusive also Japanese games are cute

I don't think I'll even consider the Scorpio unless Microsoft comes with something mind blowing or innovative hardware. Maybe bundle it with vr or something
 
Probably too late for this, but it's getting around time for a successor to the Sega Nu - work closely with them to develop a twinned spec with that, since it will likely be an x86 running a Microsoft embedded OS anyway, and streamline (including by measures like a microtransaction "allowance" included in XBL sub) both the technical and financial aspects of home ports.

I'm not lying when I say that Scorpio as a consolized Nu would get me for $1,000 launch day; it obviously isn't one by confirmed specs but making it the eventual consumer home of titles on the new board format would lock me in.
 
Realistically, the main reason why I have no interest in Microsoft consoles is because I have no interest in the games they make. The Microsoft games I did find appealing were they ones they released on PC, and while a revival of those would definitely be cool, I'd buy them on PC instead of on Xbox.
 
Not interested in a Scorpio at all but I feel it would fundamentally fail if it can't deliver:

- 1080p 120 fps as an option for TVs that support it.
-4k 60 fps option for the TVs that support it
-Three 3rd party exclusives ever year in addition to their own 1st party offerings.
 
Mandoric said:
Probably too late for this, but it's getting around time for a successor to the Sega Nu - work closely with them to develop a twinned spec with that, since it will likely be an x86 running a Microsoft embedded OS anyway, and streamline (including by measures like a microtransaction "allowance" included in XBL sub) both the technical and financial aspects of home ports.

I'm not lying when I say that Scorpio as a consolized Nu would get me for $1,000 launch day; it obviously isn't one by confirmed specs but making it the eventual consumer home of titles on the new board format would lock me in.
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Sega Nu?? Sounds intriguing, never heard of that before. Will look it up
 
I won't be buying a Scorpio unless it offers compelling games that I can't play on PC. And with the current MS strategy that seems like it won't be the case.
 
More new exciting franchises, more risk taking. Nothing about the "4k" moniker excites me, I'd rather have 1080 that pushes the envelope in other areas. It's a shame that they see 4k as the big selling point, because my interest wanes whenever is mentioned as the main bullet point.

If Crackdown 3 is a return to form for the franchise, that will be exciting though if it does something on Scorpio that it can't on the One other than a higher resolution.
 
Shakala said:
If all 1st party games are still going to PC, then I have no reason to own one
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J@hranimo said:
More interesting exclusives than what they have now. One I was really interested in was cancelled earlier this year.

I feel like Halo just doesn't do it for me as an exclusive anymore.
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This is me.

I'm ready to pull the trigger on my pcpartpicker list, just need the funds.

And the only thing I'm interested in from Xbox now is crack down. Haven't played Quantum Break yet.
 
If they come out with a machine that is noticeably more powerful than our current consoles, without any weird catches and like 3 to 5 games that I want on launch, I will pre-order.
 
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