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I was wondering what that QS 5:51 was.
Really fucked to do this in a book where Kitty Pryde assumes leadership of the team.
Really fucked to do this in a book where Kitty Pryde assumes leadership of the team.
X-Men: Gold contain subliminal messages about conservative Islamic political movement
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George Oscar Bluth II
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Something tells me he did this because Kitty becomes the leader.
ElBoxyBrown
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I didn't even take that into consideration. Yeah, this is bad. lol
It's religion. No reason to be surprised.
boiled goose
good with gravy
Shouldn't be there, but this subliminal shit doesn't really work anyways.
Just says the artist is an extremist and shouldn't be marvel affiliated
Just says the artist is an extremist and shouldn't be marvel affiliated
Oh god
Ban Puncher
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echoshifting
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It's not really subliminal...I have to take issue with the use of that word since that implies something somewhat more insidious (and also kind of goofy since subliminal messages don't work). These are code phrases, like (((this one))), winking at people who already know what it means. It would be like drawing Pepe on a shirt; it's super shitty but it's not going to persuade anyone who isn't already playing for that team.
Ugh, you are probably right
Ugh, you are probably right
Gentleman Jack
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According to the imgur album of the panels in question, Nightcrawler shares space with the "QS 5:51" message and Kitty is staring at a "212" sign in the book. Yeah this was pretty targeted.
George Oscar Bluth II
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He put a Jewelry Store sign next to Kitty.
Emphasis on "Jew".
Emphasis on "Jew".
Wow that's pretty obvious. No one at Marvel was like, "hayy.. wat's this QS 5:51 on our character's shirt that is appearing in this comic I'm producing.."
Man...
This is just getting worse and worse
This guy would be out of a job if conservative muslims took over Indonesia.
echoshifting
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I wonder if they will scrub this crap from the digital issue. They can, right? They should.
AlexFlame116
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Who's Kitty and why is that bad? Is she a newer version of a previous character?
Sorry my X-Men knowledge isn't that good.
Sorry my X-Men knowledge isn't that good.
excelsiorlef
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Kitty Pryde is one of the most prominent Jewish characters possibly in all of comics.
ElBoxyBrown
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She's a classic X-Men character that's been around since the 80s and Jewish. She's a very important character to the Jewish reading audience.
Gentleman Jack
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Kitty Pryde is a Jewish member of the X-Men.
Nightcrawler (the guy catching the softball) is a Catholic member of the X-Men.
The artist knew exactly what they were doing.
She's an old character. In this case she's a Jewish woman that is in a leadership position. And well...
Kitty AkA Shadowcat is well known for being a Jewish X-men
Pop-O-Matic
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Kitty is a Jewish character so this message showing up in an issue where she becomes leader is kinda fucked up.
George Oscar Bluth II
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Kitty Pryde AKA Shadowcat. Can phase through walls and stuff like that. Been in X-Men comics for a long time and is proudly Jewish.
echoshifting
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That is Shadowcat, one of the longest-serving members of the X-Men and one of the most prominent Jewish comic book characters, period. She takes over leadership of the X-Men in this issue.
As someone else pointed out, the QS 5:51 reference appears in a sequence featuring Nightcrawler, who is strongly associated with his Christian faith.
Kitty Pride AKA:
Shadowcat, Ariel, Sprite, Cat, Half-Pint, K, Katya, Kätzchen, Kitten, Katerina Pryde, Lady Shadra, "Lady Shadra of the Cat People", Lion, Pun'kin, Professor K, Professor Kitty, Star-Lord, Star-Lady, Suburbia
If I was an editor I'd probably assume that it was a Quicksilver reference. 212 is the NYC area code so that could easily slip through too.
George Oscar Bluth II
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echoshifting
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As a reader, that was my assumption with the QS thing.
I'm not going too fault them too hard for missing this but I want to see a strong response.
Kitty Pryde is a well known Charakter of the X-Men, e.g. she was portrayed by Ellen Page in the movies.
She is jewish and becomes a Team leader in X-Men Gold
ElBoxyBrown
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Trojita
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This is a quick way to lose employment in the comic industry.
Oh fuck
Oh fuck
AlexFlame116
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Wow! How did I forget her???
Thanks for the many responses guys! I honestly have mainly watched the movies but I've read a small amount of comics every once in a while. I really need to work on that.
But now with all this info I can definitely see the problem in an even bigger light. It definitely wasn't accidental.
Hope some sort of response is made soon about this instead of it just being ignored.
Thanks for the many responses guys! I honestly have mainly watched the movies but I've read a small amount of comics every once in a while. I really need to work on that.
But now with all this info I can definitely see the problem in an even bigger light. It definitely wasn't accidental.
Hope some sort of response is made soon about this instead of it just being ignored.
Spike Spiegel
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That "Jew" next to her head is so blatant. He needs to be fired for his anti Christian and Jewish statements. He wasn't even trying that hard to hide them.
broncobuster
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Kind of nuts this happened in an X-Men book of all comics.
AlexFlame116
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Dang it! Was that First Class? I barely remember that one and I never saw Days of Future Past.
I have a lot to make up for...
echoshifting
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"Jewelry" was actually the only one I kinda picked up on reading the book, but it's just a weird headscratcher until you hear about this other shit
It was X3 if I'm not mistaken.
EYEL1NER
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That looks like a pretty lame X-Men baseball game, especially when compared to some of the great baseball games they've had like in Uncanny #325.
Here's hoping Marvel fires this asshole with the quickness though.
Audioboxer
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Well, that's one way to lose your job. Considering the rampant hatred of Jewish people in many Islamic circles I doubt Marvel can left this go now the cat is out of the bag and the artist apparently accepting it was done intentionally on FB.
Days of Future Past, X-Men Last Stand, and the original X-Men movie. And apparently in X-2 as well.
ElBoxyBrown
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Colossus is suppose to be an atheist, which makes him wearing that shirt really out of character. Not to mention he still has feelings for Kitty. Once you see it the subtlety quickly disappears.
bonesmccoy
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Lol, no. Learn more.
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