Wonder Woman now tracking to have opening on par with other DCEU movies
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I think you grossly overestimate the amount of clout that Wonder Woman pulls with a mainstream audience. There's like 2-3 generations of people who have no familiarity with the character beyond some Justice League cartoons.
Strangelove77
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There's a lot of things going against it(previous DCU movies were shit, low faith in Gal Gadot's acting skills, and obvious sexism) so considering that I don't think it's too bad.
All it can really do is be good and hope that spreads by word of mouth.
All it can really do is be good and hope that spreads by word of mouth.
illmatic22
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Seriously WW doesn't need to be the next Deadpool. Dr. Strange numbers would be more than fine.
Principate
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How about Captain America's first film, he was already well known before the first marvel movie. Your example really doesn't work there's very few B-A tier superhero franchises Marvel has launched after the Avenger's they're all niche or sequels. So your whole argument is pretty poor if your using that as a comparison point.
gundamkyoukai
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That would not be a bad number to tell the truth .
Yeah i have no idea how this going to do overseas .
Yeah i have no idea how this going to do overseas .
90% fresh. Quote me in two years.Ah, Captain Mar...............
Dash_Riprock
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And who's fault is that?
Yeah, I don't see this movie doing anything special internationally. I hope I can be surprised but WW seems too obscure a character. Right now it's all murky.
Razgriz-Specter
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You are right, just saw that.
soundscream
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Is this going to be a reapeat of the ever increasing break even point for suicide squad......what are we up to 2 billion now?
broncobuster
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That'd need to be true to be relevant, which it ain't.
ElBoxyBrown
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Gordon Shumway
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This is now a Mr Doctor thread? Strange..😏
Seperate your personal opinion from general opinion.
BvS didn't review well and it underperformed because of bad WoM.
Snyder shouldn't have been handed the keys to the kingdom.
Old Gimlet Eyes
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Yup, nobody care about Wonder Women. Gonna bomb for sure.
Suicide Squad had decent legs, but also basically had a whole month with no real competition.
Dash_Riprock
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Razgriz-Specter
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That has nothing to do with what im saying.
Fancyarcher
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It's got a few months to go. It can go open higher or lower depending on reviews of course.
Principate
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But Thor 2 is clear shit by far the most forgettable marvel movies and up their with Suicide Squad.
ElBoxyBrown
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This will make it to 100M in 2 weeks or less.
Scorpion Soldier
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$100 million seems a little bit low in my opinion, but I could be wrong. I'm thinking the budget could possibly be comparable to the first Thor & Captain America films, so around $140-150 million.
As I said though, just guessing.
Knuckle Sandwich
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Seems very good for a female superhero movie... Not sure what you were expecting.
I don't think it will bomb. But I think it's ridiculous to claim the opening weekend should be as big as a Superman movie or whatever.
Be honest with yourselves, folks -- there are no A-tier DC heroes aside from Batman and Superman.
It's early for sure, but the marketing behind SS was brilliant. All the trailers leading up to release were fire and people were hyped about seeing Joker and Harley. WW looks good, but the character doesn't have the same appeal as those two.
That said, I do expect a surge if the reviews come out good. Just not at that level. SS really did come out of nowhere.
Doing this two months in advance feels more pointless than it usually already does
Before MCU exploded, the only Marvel A-lister was Spiderman. And Hulk, if you stretch the definition a bit.
Before MCU exploded, the only Marvel A-lister was Spiderman. And Hulk, if you stretch the definition a bit.
broncobuster
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BvS? Not so much. Suicide Squad? Inexplicably, yes. To say nothing of how much was made off merch, music, and other avenues. Suicide Squad was some cursed monkey paw nonsense.
Pop-O-Matic
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And there were no A-tier Marvel heroes besides Spider-Man and Wolverine, but that didn't stop them from turning the C-List into money making machines.
Tal Shiar Agent
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It did well enough that there are still 3+ more films in production, two helmed by Snyder. I'd rather they have Snyder with his unique style and have bad word of mouth than have some safe, bland, cookie cutter movie .
There doesn't need to be a phase 2 with the DCEU, get through Darkseid's herald, throw a few standalones with great villains like Brainiac, the Rogues, and Joker and then wrap up with a showdown with Darkseid. Couple years later send it off to someone else and reboot it.
Mushroomer25
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I'll be honest, $83M sounds extremely optimistic. This could open with half that, and I wouldn't be at all surprised. DC's brand is worth nothing right now, more of a detriment than a boost. Gal Godot is great, but no star. The character is still iconic, but ages away from her prime.
Everything is kinda working against this movie. Add in the low odds it has of even being any good, and my personal predictions aren't going past a $50M opening.
Everything is kinda working against this movie. Add in the low odds it has of even being any good, and my personal predictions aren't going past a $50M opening.
Is bad characterisation and poor story-telling among the traits of his unique style? I want good DC movies. Get Snyder out of there after JL.
Ninja Scooter
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Their last movie (Suicide Squad) did incredibly well. You have to be living in a GAF bubble to legitimately believe that their brand is a "deterrent". If this were true people would have avoided SS after BvS. Your average movie goer doesn't think this deeply about shit the way forum warriors do. If a movie looks cool, or if they hear it's cool, they'll go watch it. It's that simple.
The status of DC's roster can almost definitely change, as it did for Marvel. Though I think they undermine themselves by introducing so many of their characters in a bunch of cheap-looking CW-grade TV shows.
Future Foundation
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I've always wanted to ask: how does BoxOffice usually get their "long-range" number? Is it just social media impressions and stuff like that?
We live in a world, where a movie having the names Batman and Superman in the title is considered a risk?
Just how much did Warner fuck up?
Mushroomer25
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Suicide Squad made money, but was it genuinely well received by audiences? It made money because of a really savvy marketing campaign, which interlaced strongly with youth markets. The character design, soundtrack, and trailer work are why SS was a modest hit.
Wonder Woman has none of that working in its favor.
Razgriz-Specter
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All those characters besides Black Canary and Flash are low grade...
Tal Shiar Agent
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Her theme is great. We are thinking of the same thing right?
That's subjective. I felt his characterization was great for most of the characters (Luthor was bad) and the stories in MoS and BvS were great and packed to the gills with deep lore.
Yes we are, but I disagree. *shrugs
broncobuster
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They have potential. Sad thing with Wonder Woman is how overdue it is. Patty Jenkins met with Warners over a decade ago about doing a movie. Sadder is until Snyder and DCEU plans, Warners was content to let WW be a TV character. After the failed ABC pilot, there was the Amazon project for CW (which shares the movie's writer, Allan Heinberg). Hollywood is super risk adverse and even the female led comic movies we've had, two are spin-offs and one was a Halle Berry project. Even Marvel Studios made two movie about a talking raccoon and tree before female heroes, but at least Captain Marvel has a lot working for it.
Sho_Nuff82
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Seriously, the "Avengers bump" certainly raised all tides, but it didn't automatically turn the next few origin films (including Guardians) into billion dollar properties.
If WW is good, the sequel will have raised expectations, but expecting more than $700 million for the first film for a character ever is ridiculous on any timescale. Fucking Logan is barely gonna break $600 million.
Corpsepyre
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People surprise me every day without fail. This is their first big female-led superhero film. Given the amazing /s box office for female-led action and superhero movies in the past, an $83 million opening will be heaven sent. Also, the budget on this is supposed to be much lower than their other tentpole films from what was out a while back. It's a win win for WB/DC if this ends up crossing $200, for a female-led action/superhero films, no less.
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