Dragon Ball Super |OT6| Put your back into it.

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I swear everytime I wander into this thread there is some weird shit going on or weird rumor afoot.

Kagari said:
I really hope we get Roshi vs. SSB today.
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LOL

Slaythe said:
It keeps us guessing tho.

Instead of knowing 5 months prior to the arc.
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The fun isn't on guessing who is on the team but rather seeing what the teammates actually do/get to do. The current lineup is good
no need for this Frieza shit
 
Crocodile said:
The fun isn't on guessing who is on the team but rather seeing what the teammates actually do/get to do. The current lineup is good
no need for this Frieza shit
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This and if they pulled a swerve they literally wasted a ton of cash on marketing for no goddamned reason. This is why I think the swerve has more to do with another team.
 
I'd be okay with Freeza, but killing him in his arc is stupid if they were just going to bring him back in the end.

It's only a rumor though, so we'll see. .
 
Haha I love how in this thread theres almost no point in using spoiler tags cuz not only do most of us not care, but people will just talk about the tagged thing without tags shortly after. Spoilers are a part of dbz though, with the neps and episode titles
 
A friend told me about the rumor, except he completely believes it's true. Well, it's not like some people didn't mention a similar scenario before.
 
Frieza is nothing without his fear factor and his creepy ability to go from calm to furious at the drop of a hat. He was like one of those European Extreme difficulty modes in MGS in that discovery meant instant death. Goku and then future Trunks stripped him of that and he was a shadow of his former self in his resurrection arc.

He should stay dead.
 
If they had to replace someone, my assumption is Buu since he's sleeping in the ED, the only character without his own little scene in the OP, and we got to see him fight in the exhibition match. And who has the same basic moveset as Buu? Monster Carrot, who became god level while floating in space for decades after Roshi destroyed his lunar home.

Or Frieza. Whatever.
 
I believe it.



Well, I want to believe. There is soooooooooooooo much you can do with
Freeza fitting in the main cast, character evolution, etc.
 
EmiPrime said:
Frieza is nothing without his fear factor and his creepy ability to go from calm to furious at the drop of a hat. He was like one of those European Extreme difficulty modes in MGS in that discovery meant instant death. Goku and then future Trunks stripped him of that and he was a shadow of his former self in his resurrection arc.

He should stay dead.
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Pretty much. He doesn't work as an ally. In fact, I feel like Blue should should have been something Goku/Vegeta unlocked during the last Freeza fight. It would have added some real stakes if they didn't overpower him from the second they showed up.
 
I think it could work, and it would be fitting for the guy who caused the mortal level to be so damn low in the first place actually help out his universe for once.

Just get Baba to give him an day to live to compete, or he gets erased along with his universe.
 
Maybe it's a good thing we got
more Frieza with RoF
Since you guys can't remember what he's like.

Not everybody needs to be redeemed.
How did his last 3 redemption chances go? Oh yeah He
Shot Goku when he was flying away from Namek, went to earth after being pieced together just to kill Goku, and finally he blew up the earth.

You guys give more second chances than Goku.
 
Admiral Woofington said:
Just caught up with DBZ abridged.

How in the hell has this been running for this long and they haven't even finished the cell arc lmao.
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They release very sporadically.

Skeeter49 said:
Maybe it's a good thing we got
more Frieza with RoF
Since you guys can't remember what he's like.

Not everybody needs to be redeemed.
How did his last 3 redemption chances go? Oh yeah He
Shot Goku when he was flying away from Namek, went to earth after being pieced together just to kill Goku, and finally he blew up the earth.

You guys give more second chances than Goku.
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Not only that but he's a pretty boring character when he's not a massively powerful bad guy beating on the weaker good guys.
 
Anth0ny said:
I believe it.



Well, I want to believe. There is soooooooooooooo much you can do with
Freeza fitting in the main cast, character evolution, etc.
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Or, or, or,
he straigh up murders everyone not named Buu, Goku, Gohan and Vegeta in a heartbeat :
P

In fact I'd regain quite a bit of respect for him if that happened hehe.
 
Skeeter49 said:
Maybe it's a good thing we got
more Frieza with RoF
Since you guys can't remember what he's like.

Not everybody needs to be redeemed.
How did his last 3 redemption chances go? Oh yeah He
Shot Goku when he was flying away from Namek, went to earth after being pieced together just to kill Goku, and finally he blew up the earth.

You guys give more second chances than Goku.
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Who says he has to be redeemed?

Not to mention Vegeta has done just as much crap in his past.
 
I mean

he could easily NOT be redeemed and join the main cast. he wants to be the most powerful in the universe again and realizes that the only way to do so is by joining up with the stupid monkeys and training with them. once the time is right he'll kill them all.

Audience doesn't even have to be told that. It could be a great twist sometime down the road.
 
Admiral Woofington said:
Just caught up with DBZ abridged.

How in the hell has this been running for this long and they haven't even finished the cell arc lmao.
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You can kind of see their progression from the beginning where they really cut a lot to tell the arc faster, to now where their really taking their time with the story more. I haven't watched the last 4 episodes, but I'm shocked they still haven't started the Cell games in them, with the last one I watched ending with Cell beating Trunks.

I like the way they handle things now, telling the story a little more seriously, with more jokes developing and making sense in the context of the story.

The first 14 or so episodes have aged pretty badly, and even a lot of the Namek stuff has some bad moments.
 
Anth0ny said:
I mean

he could easily NOT be redeemed and join the main cast. he wants to be the most powerful in the universe again and realizes that the only way to do so is by joining up with the stupid monkeys and training with them. once the time is right he'll kill them all.

Audience doesn't even have to be told that. It could be a great twist sometime down the road.
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That's not really
Freeza though. His ego would never let him do anything like that. I mean, the second he found a new level he bolted over to kill everyone. Dude isn't exactly a planner.
 
SG-17 said:
Cell doesn't get enough love.
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I think he'd be a much more interesting character to bring back if they went that route. I think he's more unpredictable, we don't know if he'll turn on everyone or not.

We know Frieza will turn on everybody, and if he doesn't it's out of character.
Would one be cool, sure, but it'd be so predictable, it's not will it happen, but when will it happen.
 
Skeeter49 said:
I think he'd be a much more interesting character to bring back if they went that route. I think he's more unpredictable, we don't know if he'll turn on everyone or not.

We know Frieza will turn on everybody, and if he doesn't it's out of character.
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Same with Cell though, tbf.
 
B-Dubs said:
That's not really
Freeza though. His ego would never let him do anything like that. I mean, the second he found a new level he bolted over to kill everyone. Dude isn't exactly a planner.
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True, but
you can logically still tell that story. His hatred of the saiyans is so great that he will do ANYTHING to get back at them, including put his ego aside temporarily for the ultimate glory in the end.

It would just be an evolution of the Freeza character, which isn't a bad thing imo.
 
Cell's so boring they had to put meta cooler's in the Cell fight in XV2 so Cell wouldn't be the most boring character in that fight.
 
I just can't see Frieza joining the main cast. Having Vegeta accept that would make me absolutely hate his character. After all of the amazing development he's had in super him forgiving Frieza would just be too out of line. Yea he's going good guy now and he isn't as much of a dick as he used to be, but I just couldn't accept that.
 
Random question now 17's back - what was the reasoning behind the androids being evil in one timeline and indifferent in the other? If it was ever explained I forgot.
 
B-Dubs said:
That's not really
Freeza though. His ego would never let him do anything like that. I mean, the second he found a new level he bolted over to kill everyone. Dude isn't exactly a planner.
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Yeah. I could see Cell trying to pull that one, but not good ol' Frieza.
 
B-Dubs said:
Yea, but he had a whole character arc that showed he was just as much a victim as those he victimized. Freeza is literally the ultimate victimizer in this universe.
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Vegeta's arc has always been about his pride holding him back. While he was under Freeza's thumb, he never cared about anything other than himself and would have gladly taken Freeza's place had the opportunity arose.

He was already basically doing the same thing as Freeza, but he just resented the fact he had to take orders.

It's why he didn't instantly reform the second Freeza was taken out of the picture.
 
SG-17 said:
Cell doesn't get enough love.
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Cell isn't popular in Japan, and I don't think his popularity worldwide is that high compared to the main cast, so he's much less likely to be brought back for something like this. Still, even the Freeza rumor is just a rumor right now.
 
Sir_Crocodile said:
Random question now 17's back - what was the reasoning behind the androids being evil in one timeline and indifferent in the other? If it was ever explained I forgot.
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I think Future Trunks being there to fight Frieza made Gero make extra changes to the androids in the 3 years.

Could be wrong.
 
B-Dubs said:
That's not really
Freeza though. His ego would never let him do anything like that. I mean, the second he found a new level he bolted over to kill everyone. Dude isn't exactly a planner.
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Exactly. I'll only accept Frieza's return if as soon as the tournament is over he kills Goku when his guard is down and then kills Kaioshin before Beerus can retaliate and the surviving cast has to go in hiding, or something similar in keeping with his character. You can't do a Piccolo with Frieza.
 
Anth0ny said:
True, but
you can logically still tell that story. His hatred of the saiyans is so great that he will do ANYTHING to get back at them, including put his ego aside temporarily for the ultimate glory in the end.

It would just be an evolution of the Freeza character, which isn't a bad thing imo.
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It's not, but
the audience would have to be clued in from the start. Also you'd have to explain why he doesn't just go off and train alone again or why they'd welcome him into the fold at all given what he's done. That's where you're likely to break suspension of disbelief and bring multiple guys out of character to justify it. The groundwork for it all would have to be laid arcs in advance, you can't just spring it on everyone.

Maybe it's work if you used Cell. He seems more like the type to use that sort of deceptive plot, but then you still run into the issue with the other characters allowing him into the fold.
 
NegroNinja said:
I just can't see Frieza joining the main cast. Having Vegeta accept that would make me absolutely hate his character. After all of the amazing development he's had in super him forgiving Frieza would just be too out of line. Yea he's going good guy now and he isn't as much of a dick as he used to be, but I just couldn't accept that.
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Vegeta totally wouldn't accept it. It would be like Krillin and Tien's reaction to Piccolo joining the cast... and Vegeta joining the cast :P

B-Dubs said:
It's not, but
the audience would have to be clued in from the start. Also you'd have to explain why he doesn't just go off and train alone again or why they'd welcome him into the fold at all given what he's done. That's where you're likely to break suspension of disbelief and bring multiple guys out of character to justify it. The groundwork for it all would have to be laid arcs in advance, you can't just spring it on everyone.
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He wouldn't go train alone again because he did that before and it wasn't enough.

They wouldn't welcome him necessarily, he'd become a member of the Universe 7 team because they absolutely NEED the 10 strongest beings from the universe to fight, then slowly become acquainted with them after the tournament is over.

I mean... it's been done with both Piccolo and Vegeta at this point. That's kinda why I wouldn't be surprised if they pull the same shit with Freeza :P
 
Skeeter49 said:
Vegeta would bitch and everyone else would just go, "Haha, Vegeta's mad, that's cute, he's still on the team though."
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Krillin wouldn't be down with it and neither would Gohan or Piccolo. Bulma would probably throw a fit too. Even Goku probably wouldn't be down with it.
 
It wouldn't really matter what they would want if Beerus forced them to.

Their universe is about to be destroyed so there's no reason you don't have the best on your team unless you don't want to survive.
 
It's not like Frieza has to be good. Just tell him he won't be stuck in Earth's hell but regular hell and that should be enough of a motivation.

Then he'll try to eventually escape to another universe and team up with villains and whatever.
 
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