Gordon Shumway
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Oh shit! lol..
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 |OT| Anyone can save the galaxy once - SPOILERS!
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Oh shit! lol..
Yeah, this film made me realise Groot did die in the first one. This one is like a clone of him. Similar but without the memory of the previous one.
"Huh, I swear I read at Wikipedia that this item is out of production....."
"Huh, I swear I read at Wikipedia that this item is out of production....."
Like Inferno mentioned, Drax does comment that she reminds him of his daughter because she is naive.
Their bond is that of friends, but Mantis also was an adopted daughter of Ego in a way, since, like Thanos, he stole her away from her planet as a child and raised her, but unlike Gamora and Nebula who were raised to be killers, Mantis was raised to be a servant. It wasn't until Drax points it out that she realizes Ego treats her like his pet.
Mantis seeing (and feeling) the way that Drax cares for his own daughter realizes how the bond of parents and their children should be and not the way that Ego treats his kids (by often killing them).
I think it's fair to see that Gunn was trying to paint their friendship as one of an almost father/daughter bond, which is why there was the confusion scene with Drax thinking she was coming on to him so they can both make it clear that there wasn't any sexual or romantic component to that connection as to not undermine it.
That's not to say that there isn't the chance that the two get paired romantically in the future, but what I think Gunn is trying to do is give Drax a way to move on after losing his wife and daughter and I see it in this film as giving Mantis a new adopted father and Drax an adopted daughter rather than making it be a romantic pairing.
ShinoguTakeruKoeru
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Seeing lots of posts of how viewers want people to clown on Peter Quill for owning a Zune (Even Cap! Come on!), but considering how much Peter Parker kinda survives on welfare until meeting Tony Stark, I want HIM to own a Zune too so when Peter and Peter meet, Peter's like "Oh man you have a Zune too? Lemme zap you my playlist of the best songs you missed" and Peter's like "Oh man this Alt-J track's pretty good" and Stark can be just shake his head and be all "Parker, I gave you unlimited cloud music streaming in your suit."
And Peter's like, "... Welcome to the Social tho"
And Peter's like, "... Welcome to the Social tho"
Secret Fawful
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Hmm. I guess I can buy that.
Killer Queen
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Liked it. Dont think its any better or worse than the first, but i will say that the editing and pacing seemed off. Though there were a lot of great scenes. Ive got a few nitpicks but it was good overall, loved Kurt Russell as Ego. Just wish they didn't do the big CGI battle at the end.
Different character. That was Michelle Yeoh.
Glass Rebel
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One aspect that I found a little disappointing was that Mantis was reduced to her empathic abilities from her comic book incarnation, showing basically no martial arts proficiency...
...however, she did stick that landing when they were in Ego's core and she was only rendered unconscious by flying debris so she seems to have above-average durability at least. Here's to hoping that she gets some moves between Vol. 2 and Infinity War.
...however, she did stick that landing when they were in Ego's core and she was only rendered unconscious by flying debris so she seems to have above-average durability at least. Here's to hoping that she gets some moves between Vol. 2 and Infinity War.
MoonsaultSlayer
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Watching the original again right now and I'm noticing a couple things:
First film seems more "organic". Film quality, sets, and make-up feel more natural. Not sure what the real set vs green screen ratio is in 2 but I'm digging the look of the first here.
I loved 2. This isn't me nitpicking it as a reason to hate on it. Just an observation. Maybe the home release of 1 vs big screen of 2 discrepancy is fooling me.
First film seems more "organic". Film quality, sets, and make-up feel more natural. Not sure what the real set vs green screen ratio is in 2 but I'm digging the look of the first here.
I loved 2. This isn't me nitpicking it as a reason to hate on it. Just an observation. Maybe the home release of 1 vs big screen of 2 discrepancy is fooling me.
Ah. They looked similar to me after seeing the Thor trailer before the movie started.
DarthMasta
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I'd love a movie of the Guardians coming to Earth, Peter coming to terms with the changes, dealing with the Avengers, seeing his grandfather, character interactions between the humans and the aliens, etc.
I doubt Infinity War is going to be the movie, too hard to have that sort of interactions when you have to service every single Marvel character ever while also telling the story of Thanos / fighting Thanos...
I doubt Infinity War is going to be the movie, too hard to have that sort of interactions when you have to service every single Marvel character ever while also telling the story of Thanos / fighting Thanos...
PandaShake
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Loved it! The entire movie reminded me of that one futurama episode where a cyclops convinced leela they were the last of their kind and brought her and the crew to his amazing alien home planet until it was revealed he was a fraud. Love the soundtrack and the humor.
rokkerkory
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Just saw it last nite in 3D. Liked it a lot!
Almost as good as the 1st movie.
Almost as good as the 1st movie.
Just_myles
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when Ego zaps Peter, he shows his son a True Celestial
Nah. That's a celestial being, of course but, not a "celestial" in the literal sense.
JoshuaJSlone
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Then forget him being dumb--if this is an all-new Groot he's a fucking genius for being a few months old. Also lazy to stick him with the exact same name and weird that he would have exactly the same verbal tic?Kin5290 said:
I took it that he decided and implemented this before leaving the third time.
I wonder if he did this for all of his mates? At least the reason he gives for sending Yondu to get Peter is that he didn't want to go to the planet where his beloved died--but he had Yondu picking up a shitload of kids from different planets.
I could have sworn I saw Goldblum dancing in the credits also.
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
You did.
touche - technically all the Guardians already saw a Celestial in Vol 1
i do think Peter spotted Eternity when his eyes glazed over though
MoonsaultSlayer
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I don't know the comic lore but is there anything that disputes Ego being an infinite stone? Are they all accounted for in the MCU already?
I ask because I just saw the Collector scene and he had a similar monologue to Ego's about "before creation itself..." and coming into existence. Maybe Thanos holds this over Peter in Avengers?
If not an infinite stone, I see people talking about an Eternity character that I'm going to have to wiki. Is this a creator? If anyone can summarize Ego and Eternity, that'd be cool too.
I ask because I just saw the Collector scene and he had a similar monologue to Ego's about "before creation itself..." and coming into existence. Maybe Thanos holds this over Peter in Avengers?
If not an infinite stone, I see people talking about an Eternity character that I'm going to have to wiki. Is this a creator? If anyone can summarize Ego and Eternity, that'd be cool too.
Just_myles
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He did when Ego gave him a taste.
I don't like the idea of Ego being a "celestial". In hindsight that is kind of dumb but, not a deal breaker. MCU can say they come in many forms.
the only stone unaccounted for is the Soul Stone - and as far as we know it has not been addressed in any MCU content so far
when Ego whammies Peter, his eyes glaze over and you can see galaxies in his eyes... Peter says, "I see... Eternity"
he is referring to the cosmic being Eternity - a supreme being and leader of great cosmic entities (greater than Ego, who is a "little g" god)
Ego's just really really old. If you look into his comic origin, it's kind of disappointing, but no he's not an Infinity Stone. Eternity is a cosmic being, like Death, Chaos, Order, and the Living Tribunal. It is one of the most powerful entities in existence, though usually it doesn't do shit.
MoonsaultSlayer
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Ok, so is that a vision of what Ego could have become had he been successful? Otherwise why would seeing that entity be a revelation? (Thinking out loud, not sure people have contemplated this yet).the only stone unaccounted for is the Soul Stone - and as far as we know it has not been addressed in any MCU content so far
when Ego whammies Peter, his eyes glaze over and you can see galaxies in his eyes... Peter says, "I see... Eternity"
he is referring to the cosmic being Eternity - a supreme being and leader of great cosmic entities (greater than Ego, who is a "little g" god)
Just_myles
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the only stone unaccounted for is the Soul Stone - and as far as we know it has not been addressed in any MCU content so far
when Ego whammies Peter, his eyes glaze over and you can see galaxies in his eyes... Peter says, "I see... Eternity"
he is referring to the cosmic being Eternity - a supreme being and leader of great cosmic entities (greater than Ego, who is a "little g" god)
Didn't Adam Warlock have the soul stone in his head? That's what I recall from back in the day.
Walter White Walker
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You saw Jeff Goldblum on screen in the trailer for Thor 3, not just in the credits. He was the guy who had Thor put in the gladiator pit.
He eventually gets it, but he is pretty powerful even without it
MoonsaultSlayer
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Pretty sure they know this.
XANDER CAGE
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Just got back; it was pretty good, not great. There were a lot of fun jokes but too often it felt like the movie would keep a gag running one beat too long and it got a little grating - either explaining the joke or repeating it sometimes. I loved how weird it got, although every now and then it felt as if it was undermining its own seriousness with its humor sometimes.
"I'm gonna build a huge statue of Pac Man!" was funny; him becoming Pac Man with sound effects for his serious father/son duel was... hmm. Likewise the speech he gave for Yondu's viking funeral was funny, and emotional, but it felt like it was more for the sake of a joke than something the character would actually say.
It was too long by half and most of the meat of the story was crammed into the third act. I really liked the family matters the story addressed; I especially liked Gamora and Nebula's arc together. The setup of Ego and then the reveal of him being untoward just happened way too fast; we get like one scene of Peter trusting him before it starts dropping obvious hints about what is really going on.
I'm a bit confused about Ego's motivation as well. So he realized he was a god, then got bored without a purpose and didn't want to be alone... so his plan was to take over the universe and be alone? I feel like I missed something here.
Also, c'mon. Don't play The Chain if you're not going to play all of the song! Where's that bass solo!!
It was too long by half and most of the meat of the story was crammed into the third act. I really liked the family matters the story addressed; I especially liked Gamora and Nebula's arc together. The setup of Ego and then the reveal of him being untoward just happened way too fast; we get like one scene of Peter trusting him before it starts dropping obvious hints about what is really going on.
I'm a bit confused about Ego's motivation as well. So he realized he was a god, then got bored without a purpose and didn't want to be alone... so his plan was to take over the universe and be alone? I feel like I missed something here.
Also, c'mon. Don't play The Chain if you're not going to play all of the song! Where's that bass solo!!
Ego wanted to remake the universe in his image. You might say he was on an ego trip. eh? eh?
It's fair enough, given how all the Marvel films are connected and we also see Jeff Goldblum dancing for real in the credits, I could see how people mistake the tease for a Thor Ragnarok tie-in.
The_Inquisitor
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Honestly I think I liked it better than the first movie. Yeah some execution got borked along the way, but the added seriousness was exactly what it needed.
crisdecuba
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Yeah, I wish he wasn't a fool and that he could have carried the plan on a bit longer... or that the reveal would've happened some other way.
Another question! Did he make his human form before going out to find life? And did he keep his human form regardless of the being he was trying to seduce?
I felt like the movie went from 0-100 in the last act.
It was pretty good, but nowhere near as memorable as the first one for me. Loved the music choices.
Like Peter and Ego didn't even have any time to form some kind of stake in their relationship and then they were fighting.
It was pretty good, but nowhere near as memorable as the first one for me. Loved the music choices.
It's difficult to answer this with any definite confidence because we only have Ego's unreliable account to go on, but it's clear that Gunn is evoking the classic sci-fi trope of humanoid species going to an alien planet and mating with the population.
MoonsaultSlayer
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I can't be the only one making proper Awesome Mix's with Come a little bit closer put onto vol. 1's mix and Ain't no mountain on 2's right?
And would I want you back be on 2 as well considering its placement in the 1st film?
And would I want you back be on 2 as well considering its placement in the 1st film?
Glass Rebel
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I hope you also put Father and Son on your Zune.
Jest Chillin
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Ego thought he was alone then when he realized there was other life, he went to find it. Once he did find it, he was disappointed by it and decided the galaxy would be better if it was populated entirely by him.
MoonsaultSlayer
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Haha, oh shit.
Will have to make my own 300 song Zune list starting with that one lol.
The Watchers, and not really that godlike. Just a bit above the Silver Surfer