Xbox Project Scorpio Announced - 6TFlops, 320GB/s - Fall 2017

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Battlefront 1 ran at 720p. BF1 ran, on the average at, 900p with spikes above that, using a dynamic resolution. I'd say Scorpio will run at 4k if Battlefront 2 runs at 900p or above on XB1.

Yeah but those BF1 visuals were something else, 900p BF2 on Xbox one would be surprising.
 
Devs need to submit code for certification against October development kit version, so I wouldn't believe it comes in October.

Probably second to third week of November.

The October development software will be in final beta at least beginning of September. The last three Forzas were September titles (mainly because racing games tend to go under when the juggernauts hit) and I don't see it being any different this time. I think September 29th is a likely release date for Scorpio and Forza 7.
 
Pretty much all the major shooters have been 60fps on console this gen.

That's why there's so much furore over Bungie sticking with 30fps for Destiny 2.

Yeah i knew that. I have no idea where I got 30fps from considering I played the he'll out of bf4 (haven't gotten to bf1 yet)
 
Pretty much all the major shooters have been 60fps on console this gen.

That's why there's so much furore over Bungie sticking with 30fps for Destiny 2.

Indeed. Halo 5, Doom, BF1, Wolfenstein; all FPS that come to my mind are 60fps. Weird that Bungie didnt follow this tendency.
 
I hope this thing is a cube design or at the least very compact. Also hope they release it before the onslaught of the big holiday releases so I can get the purchase out of the way....that's if it is indeed $399.
 
I realize it was intended to be cute, but even casual homophobia is damaging to many people in our society — including me. Please think twice before invoking anything of the sort.

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How about maybe thinking that joke was a fun poke at friends doing it, regardless of orientation.

What, pray tell, would anyone find "sickening" about an opposite sex pair of friends engaged in behavior typical of a married couple? There's an obvious lack of any reasonable answers to this inquiry, and a well-trodden history of people characterizing same sex intimacy as significantly less palatable. To claim otherwise flies in the face of very well documented history.

Fucking dare to call me a homophobe. You owe me an apology.

I characterized your comment as contributing to homophobic tendencies that are pretty well documented in our society. I made no assertions about your intent or personal character and did my best to gently suggest that thinking twice about the implications might be warranted. Nothing I've said even remotely warrants an apology, nor is one forthcoming. If you have a problem with that, feel free to reach out to moderators.
 
What, pray tell, would anyone find "sickening" about an opposite sex pair of friends engaged in behavior typical of a married couple? There's an obvious lack of any reasonable answers to this inquiry, and a well-trodden history of people characterizing same sex intimacy as significantly less palatable. To claim otherwise flies in the face of very well documented history.



I characterized your comment as contributing to homophobic tendencies that are pretty well documented in our society. I made no assertions about your intent or personal character and did my best to gently suggest that thinking twice about the implications might be warranted. Nothing I've said even remotely warrants an apology, nor is one forthcoming. If you have a problem with that, feel free to reach out to moderators.

You typed up quite a few words but did nothing to back up your accusation.
 
So, wait a minute.....developers won't have the dev kit until October? I would think that they would already have them now.

Software Certification. Devs have had dev kits for awhile.

I'd guess November 16th or 17th is the release date. Last Thursday or Friday before Black Friday.
 
Software Certification. Devs have had dev kits for awhile.

I'd guess November 16th is the release date. Last Thursday before Black Friday.

Okay but Shadow of War was confirmed for Scorpio and releases August 22nd. Does that mean it will receive a patch ala PS4Pro games? Or will the game be Scorpio ready out of the case?

If Scorpio launches in November, I'll be very disappointed. I don't want to wait an extra five months after E3. I was pissed waiting two months for PS4 Pro. :(
 
Okay but Shadow of War was confirmed for Scorpio and releases August 22nd. Does that mean it will receive a patch ala PS4Pro games? Or will the game be Scorpio ready out of the case?

If Scorpio launches in November, I'll be very disappointed. I don't want to wait an extra five months after E3. :(

Yeah it'll be an update. Games with Scorpio support still release on Xbox One so they won't wait for Scorpio to drop to release their games, but they can say they are working on supporting it. I'm sure tons of games will release the update as soon as they finish cert so not everything is out on the day of release.
 
Yeah it'll be an update. Games with Scorpio support still release on Xbox One so they won't wait for Scorpio to drop to release their games, but they can say they are working on supporting it. I'm sure tons of games will release the update as soon as they finish cert so not everything is out on the day of release.

Only problem with this is that it doesn't matter if the update/patch is out once it's finished if Scorpio isn't yet. For example, Shadow of War releases August 22nd, let's say the patch is October 1st but Scorpio is November. UGH. That patch is useless until Scorpio is released. I'm a sad panda. :(
 
I'd say September to go with Forza and Fifa, which historically has been released on the last week of September, mostly.

No way it's after Thanksgiving though. Need to move those bundles somehow!
 
Would make sense to release the console before all the big games hit. Gives them a couple of months to shout that "Scorpio is the best place to play all those games that you want!"
 
Hmm, doesn't the name Scorpio give an indication of the release period, though? The time period for the namesake zodiac is October 23 – November 21.

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On a related note, who thinks MS will try and divide countries by "Tiers" again? That sure proved popular amongst the non-Tier 1 countries last time!
 
On a related note, who thinks MS will try and divide countries by "Tiers" again? That sure proved popular amongst the non-Tier 1 countries last time!

I think the reason for that was they were behind on localization. (don't tell Doffen) It's not that they were shitting on other countries.
 
If it comes out in November or so, I am just going to wait to buy some of the games that come out before it releases. For one, it could save some money and get some games on sale, the other reason is that if Scorpio will have the best version, might as well wait until I have the unit to experience the game in it's best.
 
Hmm, doesn't the name Scorpio give an indication of the release period, though? The time period for the namesake zodiac is October 23 – November 21.

While that is true, these project names are always used deliberately to conceal the identity of the console, the name never bears a relation to the actual device e.g. Durango = Xbox One / NX = Switch / Neo = Ps4 Pro.

My opinion is we shouldn't use the name as an inidicator of when it will release. Anyhow we'll find out in less than 2 weeks!
 
While that is true, these project names are always used deliberately to conceal the identity of the console, the name never bears a relation to the actual device e.g. Durango = Xbox One / NX = Switch / Neo = Ps4 Pro.

Also:

Project Midway = original XBOX.

Xenon = Xbox 360.
 
What, pray tell, would anyone find "sickening" about an opposite sex pair of friends engaged in behavior typical of a married couple?

I'm pretty sure you've misread something here.

The implication is that what he and his wife get up to is depraved, hence is also sickening when others do so.

Maybe that doesn't come across easily if you're not a native English speaker?
 
What, pray tell, would anyone find "sickening" about an opposite sex pair of friends engaged in behavior typical of a married couple? There's an obvious lack of any reasonable answers to this inquiry, and a well-trodden history of people characterizing same sex intimacy as significantly less palatable. To claim otherwise flies in the face of very well documented history.

I characterized your comment as contributing to homophobic tendencies that are pretty well documented in our society. I made no assertions about your intent or personal character and did my best to gently suggest that thinking twice about the implications might be warranted. Nothing I've said even remotely warrants an apology, nor is one forthcoming. If you have a problem with that, feel free to reach out to moderators.

Tbf, the there are multiple ways to interpret the comment.

When I read it, I didn't assume that the punchline was that the poster and his friend were the same sex. I took it that the punchline was that the husband and wife do 'sickening' things.

It was either that or friends doing things that should be reserved for married couples.

Not sure if I interpreted it correctly, but we don't even know the gender of the friends.
 
Damn this thread! All over the place.

Getting back in track. Do you think MS will announce some alterations to the spec of Scorpio or do you think it's all set now?
 
Damn this thread! All over the place.

Getting back in track. Do you think MS will announce some alterations to the spec of Scorpio or do you think it's all set now?

I doubt any alterations now (for what reason(s)?) and that the HW has been locked down for a long time. Isn't the motherboard render from last E3 unchanged even?
 
I can definetly see a lot of games being able to do 4k60fps like Battlefront 2. However, it won't be with more than medium-ish graphic settings. I mean, even a GTX 1080 and GTX 1080ti has problems with ultra settings at 4k60fps.

In general 4k60fps is capable on normal PS4 and Xbone too, you just need to heavily lower the graphic settings. :P

Even though Im not getting a Scoprio Im very interested in how the machine will be playing some games and how they will look.

Im still at 1080p 60fps with my GTX 1080 until my monitor crashes and burns. :P
 
I doubt any alterations now (for what reason(s)?) and that the HW has been locked down for a long time. Isn't the motherboard render from last E3 unchanged even?

Yeah that's probably true. I was just wondering if developers feedback tweaked the system. It's a bit late to do a major change of course. Maybe it will be SDK updates more than anything.
 
"Scorpio released today! It's in Wal-Mart now! Surprise!"

That would be crazy and amazing. Don't see it happening but it would be a major departure from what usually happens. Early launch seemed to work out for Nintendo, so maybe it could for MS.
 
Yeah that's probably true. I was just wondering if developers feedback tweaked the system. It's a bit late to do a major change of course. Maybe it will be SDK updates more than anything.

Yeah I'd imagine now all performance increases will come from SDK updates etc.

I'm always wary about talk of devs shaping a system with all the complaints of the current gens CPU.....More like devs choosing a compromise!
 
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