I think it's too early for Studio Gobo, unless it's a very small game/service. Hope I'm wrong.
Xbox E3 Conference 6/11 2pm PST
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I think it's too early for Studio Gobo, unless it's a very small game/service. Hope I'm wrong.
Here's my logic:
I would imagine the people over at Xbox are aware of the current console landscape in general and have reasonable expectations for Scorpio based on what they see. I don't think Scorpio is gonna be outselling the base model or anything, but the very fact it has an E3 presence means it's getting much more of a focus than the PS4 Pro did. The reason I think that's important is because even if the Scorpio ends up being great hardware, a bad E3 showing could drag it down considerably (which is why I imagine many assumed it would get its own event).
So since E3, the biggest stage of them all in the gaming world, is the place they chose to unveil it, I'm guessing that's because they want to take that oppertunity to send a message about Xbox's future, something thats often questioned, and occasionally for good reason.
If you look at a post from a couple pages back someone took the time to compare a chronological time line of a Xbox E3 presentation from the beginning of this gen to the most recent. One thing you notice immediately is the focus on third party games is increased greatly in last year's E3 presser and the problem with this is a heavy focus on third party games over first party leads to only one conclusion: a lack of identity for the core brand. That's been Xbox for years now. What words come to mind when someone asks you to describe what a "Xbox game" is? And while this has been an issue for a while now, I feel the cancelation of Scalebound was the straw that broke the camels back. Even around GAF, it's like it was a trigger for all kinds of repressed (and imo,deserved) MS focused rage and it's still here, slowly raising toxicity levels.
So it's not so much im expecting anything in particular, but more if they don't address the concerns here and now, mainly the lack of identity, the damage done to Scorpio could be measurable even if it does deliver. As far as I'm concered, a merely mediocre E3 would be a failure all things considered.
And that's why you should be hyped.
MosquitoSmasher
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Gobo has their game ready for E3. They tweeted yesterday.
A game.
MosquitoSmasher
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Some here mentioned there was a Xbox devkit on the picture.
CalamityPixel
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My guess
Scorpio
Sea of Thieves or Crackdown
Phil Spencer does his welcome to E3 talk
Third Party game
Third Party game
Talk about Game Pass
New Mixer features
Talk Xbox Play Anywhere
Forza 7
Sea of Thieves or Crackdown
State of Decay
Boring Minecraft section that'll last longer then anyone wants it to
Third Party game
Indie section that is too long
Possible new IP Multiplayer/Coop oriented
Halo teaser of some sorts
Phil Spencer closes show with Scorpio price
Possibly end with surprise new game
Scorpio
Sea of Thieves or Crackdown
Phil Spencer does his welcome to E3 talk
Third Party game
Third Party game
Talk about Game Pass
New Mixer features
Talk Xbox Play Anywhere
Forza 7
Sea of Thieves or Crackdown
State of Decay
Boring Minecraft section that'll last longer then anyone wants it to
Third Party game
Indie section that is too long
Possible new IP Multiplayer/Coop oriented
Halo teaser of some sorts
Phil Spencer closes show with Scorpio price
Possibly end with surprise new game
Doug Heffernan
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Maybe it's that rumored 1 vs 100 successor...
hanspampel
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MosquitoSmasher
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Unless MS is fine with having the best platform again for multiplats, have given up on actually trying to compete with Sony and will ride this generation out with little significant improvements made on their first party input. That would be the worst case scenario for sure though and such a waste of that Scorpio too even if it's not getting exclusives of its own anytime soon.
I do believe if they had some great stuff up their sleeve there would have been some leaks, some words from insiders. I'm just gonna prepare for a pretty standard show, but a good show nonetheless.
Rumblebones
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You are the worst type of fan.
Disney Infinity was available on Xbox One. They do also have a Ubisoft partnership.
Well, they are redesigning the Xbox Avatars:
LukasTaves
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But they are going to E3, they even tweeted about making their e3 build on a XDK devkit.
Let's hope that their project despite being announced recently was actually far along development.
I'm not expecting them to compete with Sony, that is pointless. I'm saying they need to take this E3 to establish a stronger identity for their own line-up. If that comes in the form of amazing gameplay from currently announced titles or new unannounced stuff, I don't mind either way. That said, I think putting too much of a focus on third party causes more harm than it helps.
JayhawkerStL
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Why do you want bad games released?
hanspampel
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I'm not a fan
I'm a Microsoft shareholder
Am i allowed to have that opinion?
I was cheering when they got rid of the mobile phone business and knew better than me (was bullish on that at first)
I didn't get the fable cancelation, but i don't know the internals.
You enjoy shitty games?
What I'm expecting from the conference in no particular order--
-Scorpio reveal + price/date
-Crackdown gameplay + release date
-Sea Of Thieves - gameplay + release date
-State Of Decay 2 - gameplay + release date
-Assassins Creed Origins
-Project Dylan
-EA section/mention with some special thing coming to EA Access
-unannounced AAA multiplat game reveal
-Some new OS feature(s)
-A bunch of smaller games one after the other, some old including Cuphead and Ashen, maybe Below, maybe some new
-new AA level first party game
-Ori 2
-Minecraft
-something Halo related, not gonna be H3 anniversary or H6 unless Phil & company are lying (I was expecting a Halo 6 teaser before)
-Forza 7
-Scorpio reveal + price/date
-Crackdown gameplay + release date
-Sea Of Thieves - gameplay + release date
-State Of Decay 2 - gameplay + release date
-Assassins Creed Origins
-Project Dylan
-EA section/mention with some special thing coming to EA Access
-unannounced AAA multiplat game reveal
-Some new OS feature(s)
-A bunch of smaller games one after the other, some old including Cuphead and Ashen, maybe Below, maybe some new
-new AA level first party game
-Ori 2
-Minecraft
-something Halo related, not gonna be H3 anniversary or H6 unless Phil & company are lying (I was expecting a Halo 6 teaser before)
-Forza 7
Would be a very good conference IMO. EA usually makes an announcement that something is coming to the EA Access Vault at E3 - it's too early for Mass Effect, but my money is on Titanfall 2. It didn't sell great to begin with, there's been a bunch of sales on it lately, and the whole business model for the multiplayer is built around having lots of players around to buy cosmetics.. Maybe Battlefield 1 after they get another DLC pack out for it.
Hey - I like this. Depending on the unknowns could be from solid to great. Would only add a dump of new games available for BC.
MosquitoSmasher
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Agreed on that. As for third party, they are missing out in a lot of deals this time around. That would make it seem they have enough stuff of their own to show. But maybe I'm wrong.
LukasTaves
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Don't badmouth Scalebound guys! The game was anything but shitty or bad.
However, I don't think that's fair. All the cancelled games were far away of release despite being delayed, and were way over budgeted. In the case of Fable Legends there was the extra factor of player abandonment during the beta. So in that sense, it's better to take that money and spent elsewhere yes, even if it means eventually we could have gotten a great game.
However, I don't think that's fair. All the cancelled games were far away of release despite being delayed, and were way over budgeted. In the case of Fable Legends there was the extra factor of player abandonment during the beta. So in that sense, it's better to take that money and spent elsewhere yes, even if it means eventually we could have gotten a great game.
Primethius
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Didn't realize Scalebound came out and reviewed poorly. I forgot that games only get cancelled for one reason and one reason only, they're shitty.
MosquitoSmasher
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On Reddit someone mentioned rumors about a Japanese game and that it would be exclusive to Xbox. First time I'm reading that. Anyone know about this? That this could possibly be that game Crapgamer talked about and Jez confirmed it.
tiredheadcrab
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Reddit rumors are not that reliable.
DriftingSpirit
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Agreed.
I don't believe it, but wasn't Sakaguchi doing a new console game?
Maybe that's the game? Maybe a SEGA game.. Aren't they rebooting IP's now?
A new Jet Set Radio funded by Microsoft would work great to substitute Sunset Overdrive
Not even one new AAA first party game would be kinda terrible
I think Cuphead will receive the Inside treatment and get a release date for the very near future. Maybe even the week of E3. These types of announcements play very well with the enthusiast crowd that tends to follow E3 closely.
Forza 7, man
Forza 7, man
Salty Hippo
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I think you're joking, but just in case you're not:
https://www.windowscentral.com/xbox...2016-could-be-one-our-most-special-years-ever
say what now? wat? wut? w00t?
SEGAvangelist
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Well he was obviously talking about Scorpio and the move to one platform across multiple consoles and PC.
The rest of the quote was this:
"I think there are certain moments in Xbox history that Xbox fans ... think of as important years. I think this will be one of those years."
I also think he loves Gears of War and thought that would resonate more than it did.
I think Cuphead will receive the Inside treatment and get a release date for the very near future. Maybe even the week of E3. These types of announcements play very well with the enthusiast crowd that tends to follow E3 closely.
Forza 7, man
Hate to pull that "it doesn't count" card but this would be like Sony pulling up with a new MLB as their only new announcement. Forza comes out every year. We know it's coming.
Isn't Rare working on something in addition to Sea of Thieves? I was thinking more along the lines of that
I know what you mean ^_^
I think a lot of us are just mentally preparing ourselves for a lack of huge new announcements. If we do get some, we can proceed to revel in delight
Patrick Klepek from VICE Waypoint wrote an article arguing that Xbox needs to redeem itself at E3.
https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/article/microsoft-needs-to-redeem-the-xbox-name-at-e3
https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/article/microsoft-needs-to-redeem-the-xbox-name-at-e3
MosquitoSmasher
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From Reddit
"If you read further in that tweet from Jez today someone suggests AC and he says :"
"Prob that too, but there's one that hasn't even really been teased/announced."
So there's that.
Oh and as for the person that mentioned a Japanese game....
https://www.reddit.com/r/xboxone/comments/6eumes/comment/didi1jz
"If you read further in that tweet from Jez today someone suggests AC and he says :"
"Prob that too, but there's one that hasn't even really been teased/announced."
So there's that.
Oh and as for the person that mentioned a Japanese game....
https://www.reddit.com/r/xboxone/comments/6eumes/comment/didi1jz
blue_phazon
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I really hope they get a different production firm this time around, because for me, the worst parts of their conferences are not the announcements, but the delivery.
I'm so tired of the boring ass high school presentation of:
- MS guy says "I'd like to introduce studio"
- studio guy come and says "hi I am a member of studio, and I'd like to show game"
- trailer for game
- thank you please enjoy this fall
It's so boring. There's no suspense, no excitement. Whereas with Sony's or Nintendo's you get the trailer FIRST (which doesn't reveal the title until the end) and then after you have the dev talk about it or do a demo.
I'm so tired of the boring ass high school presentation of:
- MS guy says "I'd like to introduce studio"
- studio guy come and says "hi I am a member of studio, and I'd like to show game"
- trailer for game
- thank you please enjoy this fall
It's so boring. There's no suspense, no excitement. Whereas with Sony's or Nintendo's you get the trailer FIRST (which doesn't reveal the title until the end) and then after you have the dev talk about it or do a demo.
You say that like it would be a bad thing.
JayhawkerStL
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Licensing deals are weird. Microsoft is essentially missing out on the opportunity to spend more money to sell the same games. I mean, CoD still sell well on XB1.
But they do make fans of particular consoles feel good.
Okami Haundo
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$399
Your welcome
Alright, you two got me back in the goddamn game. Hype levels are back at maximum!
I also just realized that I left out important details in my post anyway. I plan on buying all the major exclusives for Xbox this year as well as quite a few multi-plats. Scorpio itself is the only thing I've been back and forth on. I'm goddamn ready to see Assassin's Creed looking incredible on Scorpio. Is it the 10th yet?!
HeisenbergWW62
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I heard it's Metal Gear Survive
Maximus P
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This sounds about right to me. Id add that they'll probably talk a little about game pass too and also maybe name drop a couple of big games that will be coming to the service in July to help boost subs. (Cuphead would be a great game to add to the service)
I'm really looking forward to sod2,seeing games run on Scorpio and seeing crackdown in action.
I also heard its Red Ash: The Indelible Legend.
DriftingSpirit
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Agreed, change up the format to make things more interesting to watch.
RE7 was a multiplat at Sony's last year but they turned it into a big moment of the conference with how they revealed it.
They wouldn't keep giving them money if they didn't see positive gains from it.
MS will still have several deals anyway.
MosquitoSmasher
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Man if only that sort of falling out between Crytek and MS hadn't happened, we might have been looking forward to Ryse 2 now. I definitely enjoyed the game for what it was and with more variety in the combat moves it could have been a lot better. That could have been for Ryse 2 perhaps but......that's Not happening sadly.
Ryse still to this day is the best looking a Xbox One game. It's pretty damn incredible how it still holds up now. Imagine a sequel on Scorpio. We probably won't even see Ryse getting a patch sadly.
Ryse still to this day is the best looking a Xbox One game. It's pretty damn incredible how it still holds up now. Imagine a sequel on Scorpio. We probably won't even see Ryse getting a patch sadly.
LukasTaves
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I'd say that project Scorpio and Play anywhere are all potentially defining moments for Xbox, yes.
Scorpio for obvious reasons and play anywhere the very big first step towards the unified platform Ms has been touting for a while.
LukasTaves
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A thousand times this.
Salty Hippo
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Those things are still nothing but empty promises. They're not doing XPA right with that garbage store noboby wants to use. Scorpio was literally just a codename with a chip showed in CG for an incremental hardware upgrade that you only need to buy if you want the same games with better graphics. Not a single soul came out of that conference impacted in the same way they were by the launch of 360. Not even close. Saying both events/moments are comparable in terms of importance is borderline insane.
CalamityPixel
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They need to make XPA work on retail discs.
Even if it is getting a free download that you can only access when your xbone disc is in your pc.
Even if it is getting a free download that you can only access when your xbone disc is in your pc.
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