Xbox E3 Conference 6/11 2pm PST
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Forza and PGR don't really feel much alike IMO. PGR is as much about style as it is about driving fast, if not more.They had trials in the campaign that you couldn't pass unless you completed an entire race without breaking a combo. Cone challenges and passing challenges are totally unique to PGR.
Sure Forza games give now you some points for drifting, but Forza is way more liberal with points- handing them out like candy. In PGR you live or die by them, and they are all hard earned.
Dee Dah Dave
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It's going to be Forza 7 with a built in track creator!
It's like this every E3... why point it out now? Did you do so last year or the year before?
GodfatherX
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leave this thread for a day and people have flipped from "definitely 399" and thinking 499 now? what did i miss?
This guy gets it. People are doubting aggressive Microsoft.
daTRUballin
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And Fable Anniversary... since they're announcing Fable 4 at E3 right?
How much wanna bet they announce a Fable 4 and it turns out Rare is making it instead of Banjo Threeie? Lol
Personally, I need new fresh games (IPs) more than I need new powerful hardware. SoD2, SoT and Crackdown 3 ain't gonna cut it. Im looking very forward to Crackdown 3, SoT looks mediocre-boring-ish from the gameplay Ive see (technincal alpa) and Im very skeptical to SoD2 because to I really disliked the first game due to it's jankiness. Felt like a Spider-developed RPG.
However, Im really looking forward to Ashen, Below and Cuphead. Hoping for gameplay and release date, but will most likely just pick them up on Steam/PC.
However, Im really looking forward to Ashen, Below and Cuphead. Hoping for gameplay and release date, but will most likely just pick them up on Steam/PC.
Sod2 is getting a lot of funding, considered triple A title. It was an arcade game originally.
MightyHedgehog
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Exactly. Of course, eveyone wants it at $399 or less and a really aggressive move could put it there from day one. I think it's best to keep more grounded expectations going into Sunday's presentation considering what it offers over the most comparable option on the market, though.
Sony seems fine with the Pro's current adoption rate and doesn't need to announce a drop in price eight months in, but that could happen just ahead of Scorpio's release. I expect MS to be more aggressive with vanilla X1 and drop it to $199 at the low end and Sony could stay at $249 for vanilla PS4 due to the difference in demand. Maybe we'll get a game of chicken going first depending on the reaction on Sunday as Sony counters, forcing MS to respond in kind. They both want to protect their margins on the new hardware, though, but I'm sure we're going to see the two-tiered option for Scorpio right out of the gate which could be what allows them to bleed a little for a nicer entry price while pushing the big HDD & game bundle.
Well a lot of people liked the game, so Im not sure if they will change the jankiness.
Bits N Pieces
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They are using UE4 and god knows how much of a bigger budget and development time, I think it'll surprise you.
ATOMICJORGE
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It will be $399 I'm very sure
Hopefully I will. Im most excited for the Xbox conference cause they have the most to prove.
eso76
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Ooohh, I remember now, yeah I heard about that rumor. Had completely forgotten.
Yeah he basically just said " I would never approve of that logo " seen in a clearly fake picture. Technically he did not deny the name itself, but we're probably reaching.
Why do people think Sony will drop the price of the PS4 Pro? It appears to be high in demand item that is netting them great margins.
The PS4 didn't get a price drop for 2 years.
The PS4Pro is a victory lap for Sony. They're installed base will continue to rise much quicker than the xb1s thanks to the popularity of the PS4 slim. It wouldn't be financially wise to get into a price war over a portion of the Market that is a niche within a niche- especially not when they are making money hand over fist.
The PS4 didn't get a price drop for 2 years.
The PS4Pro is a victory lap for Sony. They're installed base will continue to rise much quicker than the xb1s thanks to the popularity of the PS4 slim. It wouldn't be financially wise to get into a price war over a portion of the Market that is a niche within a niche- especially not when they are making money hand over fist.
hanspampel
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i calculated possible BOM for the Xbox Scorpio and did not come over $400
$140 SOC
$70 RAM
$30 all other Controller, Chips + Wlan
$60 UHD disk-drive + 1TB HDD
$20 Electromechanicals
$25 Mechanicals
$20 Power Supply
$15 Controller
$5 Box and Cables
$15 Assembly and Testing
This is the Xbox One S 2TB back in August 2016
This was the Xbox One and Ps4 back in November 2013
so whatever anyone says to you guys, the console can be made for less than $400
and im 100% certain about this. i took very conservative price points
$140 SOC
$70 RAM
$30 all other Controller, Chips + Wlan
$60 UHD disk-drive + 1TB HDD
$20 Electromechanicals
$25 Mechanicals
$20 Power Supply
$15 Controller
$5 Box and Cables
$15 Assembly and Testing
This is the Xbox One S 2TB back in August 2016
This was the Xbox One and Ps4 back in November 2013
so whatever anyone says to you guys, the console can be made for less than $400
and im 100% certain about this. i took very conservative price points
Fata1moose
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If they announce a new Fable, albion for Scorpio.
ChubbleDucks
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We're almost there ladies and gents.
EA tonight and then the main event tomorrow.
Hype us getting real now.
EA tonight and then the main event tomorrow.
Hype us getting real now.
creamhackered
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This guy gets it.
Okami Haundo
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Pricing arguments again? Woof...
It'll be $399 for the base model and that's the hill I'll die on.
It'll be $399 for the base model and that's the hill I'll die on.
Neander
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Green Yoshi
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ElzarTheBam
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Yeah time should go a it faster from when the conferences start
hanspampel
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don't think so.
not at launch.
they would rather make a little profit and still sell the console for $399 to recoup some costs associated to R&D + S&M
biglittleps
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Your calculation puts this exactly around $400 without including Transportation costs, retailer cuts and MS profits.
Based on your estimates it should be at least $449 or more.
I would expect either $449 to break in or with minor profit or $499 if MS wants to sell this for profit as it's not mainstream product because target base is enthusiasts.
In fairness, and easy thing to do during their quietest ever year.
Fata1moose
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Or they'll just show the best looking version on PC.
Green Yoshi
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I bet they only show the PC versions, so nobody at the event will complain about the framerate. PS4 Pro and Scorpio are not relevant enough for the mass audience, so I doubt that PS4 Pro and Xbox Scorpio support will be mentioned during their press conference. "Game X will be out on PC, PS4 and X1 on Date Y". That's all.
Que?
biglittleps
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MS has to take loss on this then. Not sure their expectations, but I am sure they will target some profit with each unit as even Sony(who is market leader) could not add UHD drive for PS4 Pro (which sold only around 2M so far as per estimates) just to get the price under control.
Scorpio is not going to set sales on fire, and their best selling SKU still will be XB1 S as mainstream don't care for 4K yet.
I would expect scorpio to be $449 (or more if MS wants profit) and PS4 Pro $349 this holidays.
LukasTaves
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Thanks!
Hannibal the Tv series.
Heard very positive things about this show, have to watch it.
creamhackered
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What about selling for a small loss?
hanspampel
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ofc i does not include anything of that. it's a BOM
costs of goods =/ S&M expenses and profit margins
i also said can be made for unter $400 not will be sold for $400
imho $399 or $449 will be the most likely price points. depending if they're willing to go for a small hit or want a small profit per unit sold.
$349 or $499 are very unlikely imho
Amy Hood on the Financial Analyst Briefing 2017
Mixolydian
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Mmmmmmmm
blue_phazon
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It will be 499. Never underestimate a video game company's ability to fuck up.
Neander
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Forza Gotham Racing
(would really be cool if they added a complete Arcady racer to their range and make every game a 3 year cycle instead of a 2 year cycle.
Would also benefit the Forza Motorsports and Forza Horizon brand.
To be fair.
The UVP (recommended retail price) is still 299 € but retailers are selling it at this low price.
Same would go with the Scorpio. After a few months this would also drop down to <399.
Yeah PC version makes sense.AT least that's a rough approximation of what Scorpio should be running it like.
Black Mantis
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This. My money's ready!
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