Liliana Eileen
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Any links? I'd like to understand better who this person is or what he has said. I'm generally not into supporting awful people, especially when it comes to luxury purchases.
I'd like this as well.
edit: nevermind, got it
Any links? I'd like to understand better who this person is or what he has said. I'm generally not into supporting awful people, especially when it comes to luxury purchases.
Harassment and doxing shouldn't be happening but I don't see accusations of this guy himself doing any of that. He defended gamergate but as far as I can see that was in September 2014 when people believed that someone had slept their way to a positive Kotaku review; before all the major harassment etc. In the tweets that are being linked I see him simply being against feminism and SJW influence over the video game industry, and it seems like those opinions aren't allowed. I see people in this thread literally saying they're not going to buy a game made by someone who doesn't support feminism. What in the actual fuck?That, at least to me, is like someone saying they're not going to buy a game because its creator has said they don't support PETA.
August 21:
-In the #BurgersAndFries IRC channel, the organizers celebrate obtaining Phil Fish's "home" folder and discuss how to take control of his website, hosted by Buttflare [see IRC logs @ Aug 22 02.34.26].
Harassment and doxing shouldn't be happening but I don't see accusations of this guy himself doing any of that. He defended gamergate but as far as I can see that was in September 2014 when people believed that someone had slept their way to a positive Kotaku review; before all the major harassment etc. In the tweets that are being linked I see him simply being against feminism and SJW influence over the video game industry, and it seems like those opinions aren't allowed. I see people in this thread literally saying they're not going to buy a game made by someone who doesn't support feminism. What in the actual fuck? That, at least to me, is like someone saying they're not going to buy a game because its creator has said they don't support PETA.
Cyberpunk 2077 will eventually happen. If you haven't checked out 2064: Read Only Memories, give it a go. It's pretty much the polar opposite of whatever terrible screed Last Night turns into
That's what I'm trying to point out.
It really doesn't add anything substantive to the discussion to say whatever, buy it or not buy it. Or that people should be able to make video games, which no one here is arguing against. What is it about the discussion on the revelation of the developer's background that makes you or others want to interject with comments that say neither one thing or another? The issue brought up here isn't about your buying habits and how that reflects on you. We're all in one way or another on varying degrees compromising our own moral values in our daily lives anyway, and certainly it is understandable here that the art style, gameplay, or what have you in this game entices you enough to put aside these other issues. It is also just not relevant and instead plays like a contrarian comment.
Any links? I'd like to understand better who this person is or what he has said. I'm generally not into supporting awful people, especially when it comes to luxury purchases.
Yes, Tim Soret is a gamergater.
And, no, outing him as a gg scumbag isn't a thread derail as it will be important information for people who may be otherwise interested in the game.
I, for one, think the game looks interesting but knowing Tim is a cunt means I cannot buy it with a clear conscience.
So I won't be buying it.
Let me help.
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Raw Fury Games (The Publisher) has made a statement,
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1spupkj
Raw Fury Games (The Publisher) has made a statement,
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1spupkj
Talk about shoving politics down my throat. Fucking christ.Let me help.
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Beyond any of his stupid personal politics, this makes the game sound dumb as fuck.
Yeah, you are going to have to do better than that mate. While you are at it, define "regressive ideas".He updated his twitter:
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Hopefully he can explain himself somewhere that gives him more words to do so.
Raw Fury Games (The Publisher) has made a statement,
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1spupkj
Raw Fury Games (The Publisher) has made a statement,
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1spupkj
I also don't buy the patriarchy stuff. Maybe it applies in the USA, but I live in Paris, and here in France, virility is not encouraged at all, sensitive men and intelligence are a lot more appreciated than "being a tough guy" and muscles. Most masculine behaviors are totally prohibited and are considered very macho here.
Raw Fury Games (The Publisher) has made a statement,
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1spupkj
Raw Fury Games (The Publisher) has made a statement,
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1spupkj
Raw Fury Games (The Publisher) has made a statement,
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1spupkj
How can they say this when the creator himself tweets about the very game they're publishing with the hashtag #gamergate? It's like he's saying one thing and they're saying another. How old was the above tweet? The screencap just says Sep 11. If that's from 2016 then the publisher statement is bs.
It's baffling that they would link to that Idle Thumbs thread in defense of the idiot, since it's just him flailing around and playing victim while other users call him out for flailing around and playing victim. Like, if that's his best public look then holy shit.
The comments Tim made in 2014 are certainly surprising and dont fit the person we know, and we hope that everyone reading this who knows us at Raw Fury on a personal and professional level knows that we wouldnt tolerate working with someone who portrays the caricature of Tim going around the internet right now.
The wording of his statements toward feminism in 2014 was poor, and his buying into GamerGate as a movement on the notion that it represented gamers against journalists was naive, but in the same year he also cheered the rise of women in gaming. In a similar situation as the one happening now, folks on the IdleThumbs forums found questionable tweets and Tim took it upon himself to address them. What came from that was a dialogue where different viewpoints were considered and debated in a purposeful way.
A lot can change in three years, including viewpoints, and Tim has assured us that The Last Night does not spout a message steeped in regressive stances. We trust Tim and know that he is an advocate for progression both in and outside of our industry, and we hope that this will be apparent moving forward.
I don't really buy it. Best thing I can say right now is that's a good damage control statement from PR on a late sunday night.Raw Fury Games (The Publisher) has made a statement,
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1spupkj
...we'll see
That trailer was pretty terrible - what even genre is it? It just kept showing the guy walking and/or pointing a gun at people.
i imagine more changed in the three hours between the first and second tweet than in these last few years
Raw Fury Games (The Publisher) has made a statement,
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1spupkj
Raw Fury Games (The Publisher) has made a statement,
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1spupkj
The tweet was from 2014, at the height of Gamergate.
He hasn't tweeted about Gamergate specifically recently, but did jump in on the recent pile-on from the alt-right against Bill Nye when Bill Nye said gender was a spectrum, which suggests that his, and the publisher's, contention that he's changed since the tweets is bullshit.
I know, that's a... questionable decision on their part.
Raw Fury Games (The Publisher) has made a statement,
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1spupkj
He hasn't tweeted about Gamergate specifically recently, but did jump in on the recent pile-on from the alt-right against Bill Nye when Bill Nye said gender was a spectrum, which suggests that his, and the publisher's, contention that he's changed since the tweets is bullshit.
Yup. Me too.
Wait, I think I missed something.
Edit: FUCK
"I am so happy that people are talking about Milkshake duck! I have recently learned some new facts about Milkshake duck's past. I would like to address those now in a way that will hopefully make all of this go away
This is not the Milkshake Duck I know and even though I am now presented with new evidence that would suggest that there were things I didn't know about Milkshake Duck, I will still stand by my, previous, unsullied image of my webfooted friend. Also Milkshake duck was just being naive, but not as naive as I am being right now in my full throated support of a duck that will hopefully, make me money in the near future"
.That's a lot of words for "he's a good mate, just take our word for it". I know they have to protect their investment in this, but I don't know who Raw Fury Games are. I do know the public record of Tim Soret's twitter account. Would mean more if it came from him and he sounded contrite. Instead this just feels like a PR fluff piece.
Harassment and doxing shouldn't be happening but I don't see accusations of this guy himself doing any of that. He defended gamergate but as far as I can see that was in September 2014 when people believed that someone had slept their way to a positive Kotaku review; before all the major harassment etc. In the tweets that are being linked I see him simply being against feminism and SJW influence over the video game industry, and it seems like those opinions aren't allowed. I see people in this thread literally saying they're not going to buy a game made by someone who doesn't support feminism. What in the actual fuck? That, at least to me, is like someone saying they're not going to buy a game because its creator has said they don't support PETA.
They don't give a shit at all.
In fact, the boys at Raw Fury's offices are probably jumping for joy right now.