Thank you for your answers, I have no preference for Sanwa parts, becaus this'll be my first stick. I just wanted to get something in the 150 realm.
Now my only problem is that the HRAP isn't in stock anywhere in europe.
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Thank you for your answers, I have no preference for Sanwa parts, becaus this'll be my first stick. I just wanted to get something in the 150 realm.
Now my only problem is that the HRAP isn't in stock anywhere in europe.
I think the various European branches of Amazon have some. (UK, Germany, France, etc.)
Ordered one at Amazon.de for 135, I think thats a pretty good price.
Only downside is that it'll be delivered within 2 - 4 weeks :|
DarkConfidant
Member
Hey yall,
I was looking to buy my 2nd fight stick. I got the Hori Mini 4 for PS4, and Ive liked it.
I have a lot more income than I used to have now, and would like to buy a larger stick for Street Fighter V.
Any recommendations you all can give me? Its much appreciated!
I was looking to buy my 2nd fight stick. I got the Hori Mini 4 for PS4, and Ive liked it.
I have a lot more income than I used to have now, and would like to buy a larger stick for Street Fighter V.
Any recommendations you all can give me? Its much appreciated!
GinoFelino
Member
Well, there's some images in the last few pages, but the HRAP 4 Kai and Hori Tekken 7 stick are great. Availability will depend on where you live, so maybe Qanba/Razer are valid options for you too.
Basically, any stick on shelves right now is worth getting.
I'm so intent on getting a hayabusa into the SC5 stick that I'm going to saw the plastic piece out to make it fit, lol.
Success! Lol.
Put all the wires in upside down the first time, so my lp was kk, mp was mk, etc. took the art off because he plexi was annoying me with the warping. Might ask a friend to do some persona art and order a stiffer plexi.
But it is now a hayabusa case. Perfect for playing on pc.
Ps360 question: I've updated it to 1.66, but the pc says it's 1.2 when I plug it in. Is that the version number of the hardware or software?
Success! Lol.
Put all the wires in upside down the first time, so my lp was kk, mp was mk, etc. took the art off because he plexi was annoying me with the warping. Might ask a friend to do some persona art and order a stiffer plexi.
But it is now a hayabusa case. Perfect for playing on pc.
Ps360 question: I've updated it to 1.66, but the pc says it's 1.2 when I plug it in. Is that the version number of the hardware or software?
Zack Zavage
Member
Does anyone here have experience in ordering from focusattack.com to Europe regarding import sales taxes?
They offer estimation of shipping costs and taxes, but that function seems worthless to me.
They offer estimation of shipping costs and taxes, but that function seems worthless to me.
I think the taxes depend on the country. You'll have to look up how much they add and at which amount they start adding.
DarkConfidant
Member
Thanks! Ended up getting a HRAP 4 Kati.
notworksafe
Member
It will work on most non-Steam games without issue and will work with anything on Steam (since you can configure any controller in Steam)
If that is the version with Kuro buttons I don't think it has an XInput mode, but a lot of stuff has DirectInput support natively and anything through Steam it can be configured to work. For the most part it should work fine, you just need to check that if you get a game outside Steam that it has DirectInput support.
Edit - Given your posts in the Tekken 7 thread, if you're getting it for that it'll work out of the box.
Thanks for the quick replies, yes it would only be used on games through Steam/PS4. I just wasn't sure after reading about different third party drivers and the stick listing not specifying anything related to PC.
Not having messed with arcade sticks before I had assumed you could simply swap out the stick for a silent one the same way you can the buttons. Then I was watching a video installing one and having to solder the pcb, that would be way beyond what I'd be able to do.
I was looking at the T7 stick because of the headphone jack, but that stick replacement for a silent one, I dunno. This stick is pricey though since its not made anymore. I guess that stick replacement would be pricey to if I went with the T7 stick instead.
This is the one I was looking at:
https://arcadeshock.com/products/hori-real-arcade-pro-v-silent-ps4-ps3?variant=6460385217
Not having messed with arcade sticks before I had assumed you could simply swap out the stick for a silent one the same way you can the buttons. Then I was watching a video installing one and having to solder the pcb, that would be way beyond what I'd be able to do.
I was looking at the T7 stick because of the headphone jack, but that stick replacement for a silent one, I dunno. This stick is pricey though since its not made anymore. I guess that stick replacement would be pricey to if I went with the T7 stick instead.
This is the one I was looking at:
https://arcadeshock.com/products/hori-real-arcade-pro-v-silent-ps4-ps3?variant=6460385217
Zack Zavage
Member
Haven't been following this stuff for a couple of years.
Is there a list or a guideline which ps4 sticks are affected by the 8 minute disconnect? I need to know what models to sort out since this is a dealbreaker for me.
Is there a list or a guideline which ps4 sticks are affected by the 8 minute disconnect? I need to know what models to sort out since this is a dealbreaker for me.
Most games support legacy sticks now, so you don't need to worry about the 8 minute disconnect.
So I went from owning zero arcade sticks to owning three over the course of two weeks.
I got the HRAP4K new at 149, and the other two sticks second hand (with box) at 45 and 57.
The second hand sticks are in pretty good condition save for some minor wear and tear from normal usage. I got the Street Fighter X Tekken stick in today. The previous owner swapped out the button, and though he claims they are Sanwa's I'm pretty sure they are knock offs based on how stiff/resistant the buttons feel. But ooh well, I'll replace them soon enough.
Now someone please stop me from buying up more used sticks...
I got the HRAP4K new at 149, and the other two sticks second hand (with box) at 45 and 57.
The second hand sticks are in pretty good condition save for some minor wear and tear from normal usage. I got the Street Fighter X Tekken stick in today. The previous owner swapped out the button, and though he claims they are Sanwa's I'm pretty sure they are knock offs based on how stiff/resistant the buttons feel. But ooh well, I'll replace them soon enough.
Now someone please stop me from buying up more used sticks...
Been watching some videos today on different sticks and ran across a video showing off the Hori T7 stick. In the video below it seems the stick moves beyond where it is suppose to stop. Is this normal for Hori sticks?
https://youtu.be/l20xXC-EYPo?t=2m37s
https://youtu.be/l20xXC-EYPo?t=2m37s
That's normal for the hayabusa and probably most levers. You can push/pull them up a bit whether they are at an angle or not.
Not sure what this dude is getting at. Maybe that he can push it up a little too easily?
Looking hella fine and clean to boot. Enjoy your new addiction!
katsubento
Member
I can do it with the Hahyabusa Hori RAP, though it takes a bit of force to do so.
Hellshingu
Member
You should buy some moreCan't ever have enough.
Don't listen to this man, he's leading you down a dark and dangerous path.
So, I talked myself out of buying that HORI Real Arcade Pro. 4 Kai Silent Arcade Stick priced at &194.99+$15 shipping+ if they charged tax dunno if arcadeshock does.
The stick being out of print, and premium priced because of the rarity, and it being an older stick was off putting. Return options were bothersome as well if something was wrong, use to easy returns with Amazon I guess.
Plus, and I'm sure some will correct me, I found some input lag testing where the stick and oddly the normal Kai being not great. Which makes me wonder about the purchase I did make. I dunno how much that matters but it spooked me.
I ended up buying the T7 stick from a GameStop about an hour and a half from me today, easy return if something is wrong.
I haven't used it yet but some observations/questions:
Plastic housing is pretty cheap for the price point.
Why does every company that put outs electronics or accessories always ruin it by using glossy piano black bezels? Just taking it out of the box and I already see multiple scratches.
Plexiglass top, the plastic is indented around the screws holding it in place, I'm guessing this is common?
The lever is loud to me but can barely be heard in a silent house in the next room, so I'm happy about that since that was my biggest concern.
Buttons are loud as hell, can easily be heard in the living room from down the hall. Can even be heard with door shut at the other end of the house.
So, these buttons are gonna have to go. As this is my first stick ever, and have no built in preferences, what are my options on silent buttons? (brand, different levels of sound dampening)
As I currently have no preference for different brands I'm guessing I should buy 2/4 or each to see the differences?
As for using it, is there a correct way to hold the lever/stick so I won't develop bad habits or is it just whatever you're comfortable with.
Gonna be weird learning to use this, haven't used one since Tekken 1/VF2 when they released in arcades.
Last question, my PS4 setup atm has only one USB slot available. I currently have a 9' usb3.0 cable hooked up to it for headset and easy reach flash drive save, saving. Will this cable introduce any input latency? Would prefer to just plug the stick into that instead of constantly switching it on PS4.
Edit: the ball top is suppose to be able to twist I'm guessing?
The stick being out of print, and premium priced because of the rarity, and it being an older stick was off putting. Return options were bothersome as well if something was wrong, use to easy returns with Amazon I guess.
Plus, and I'm sure some will correct me, I found some input lag testing where the stick and oddly the normal Kai being not great. Which makes me wonder about the purchase I did make. I dunno how much that matters but it spooked me.
I ended up buying the T7 stick from a GameStop about an hour and a half from me today, easy return if something is wrong.
I haven't used it yet but some observations/questions:
Plastic housing is pretty cheap for the price point.
Why does every company that put outs electronics or accessories always ruin it by using glossy piano black bezels? Just taking it out of the box and I already see multiple scratches.
Plexiglass top, the plastic is indented around the screws holding it in place, I'm guessing this is common?
The lever is loud to me but can barely be heard in a silent house in the next room, so I'm happy about that since that was my biggest concern.
Buttons are loud as hell, can easily be heard in the living room from down the hall. Can even be heard with door shut at the other end of the house.
So, these buttons are gonna have to go. As this is my first stick ever, and have no built in preferences, what are my options on silent buttons? (brand, different levels of sound dampening)
As I currently have no preference for different brands I'm guessing I should buy 2/4 or each to see the differences?
As for using it, is there a correct way to hold the lever/stick so I won't develop bad habits or is it just whatever you're comfortable with.
Gonna be weird learning to use this, haven't used one since Tekken 1/VF2 when they released in arcades.
Last question, my PS4 setup atm has only one USB slot available. I currently have a 9' usb3.0 cable hooked up to it for headset and easy reach flash drive save, saving. Will this cable introduce any input latency? Would prefer to just plug the stick into that instead of constantly switching it on PS4.
Edit: the ball top is suppose to be able to twist I'm guessing?
katsubento
Member
Listen to this man. He's saving you from going down a dark and dangerous not to mention expensive path.
Yeah I already started walking that path by picking up 3 sticks...Listen to this man. He's saving you from going down a dark and dangerous not to mention expensive path.
Hopefully I can leave it at that. Though that feeling of just one more, kind of persists.
sixteen-bit
Member
In Tekken, small guns are fun tooNow that Tekken 7 online is fixed, it's time to bring out the big guns!
https://twitter.com/bloomblue9264/status/755782495837179908
Hahaha, Yoshimitsu with a gun, that's fantastic!
I have a question, hoping this is normal.
When moving the lever, slow or fast doesn't matter, before you hear the switch, frequently, but not all the time, it feels like the stick gets hung up on something, and it makes an noticeable noise and feel. This can happen in any direction, but again doesn't happen all the time.
Is this normal? Feels odd, like while driving and going over a bump in the road. I assumed all movement would feel smooth. Again doesn't happen all the time and force on the stick doesn't seem to matter.
When moving the lever, slow or fast doesn't matter, before you hear the switch, frequently, but not all the time, it feels like the stick gets hung up on something, and it makes an noticeable noise and feel. This can happen in any direction, but again doesn't happen all the time.
Is this normal? Feels odd, like while driving and going over a bump in the road. I assumed all movement would feel smooth. Again doesn't happen all the time and force on the stick doesn't seem to matter.
Hearing and feeling the switch is fine, the lever getting hung up on something is not fine.
Tek Innovations offers an all button layout on their DIY plexi case:
http://www.tek-innovations.com/arthobbies/?loc=products&cat=12&subcat=&item=120
http://www.tek-innovations.com/arthobbies/?loc=products&cat=12&subcat=&item=120
notworksafe
Member
Brook putting out a PS2->PS3/4 converter! This is gonna be awesome for old game events that we run locally. Only $30 too! Had to happen just after we did a CVS2 tourney at our last event two days ago too, haha.
http://shoryuken.com/2017/06/12/bro...rter-available-for-pre-order-at-arcade-shock/
http://shoryuken.com/2017/06/12/bro...rter-available-for-pre-order-at-arcade-shock/
sixteen-bit
Member
Awesome. HRAP2 lives another gen.
How'd ya'll let Isaak win a tourney?
LOL
I'm going to have to make fun of Saeng.
This is super dope, though. Buying two immediately.
notworksafe
Member
Denver has had Tekken for like a year already, that's how! The salt is real down here, lol
https://www.razerzone.com/gaming-co...ink_US_launch&utm_campaign=razer_sfv_panthera
This razer, tho. The A2 nostalgia is so real.
This razer, tho. The A2 nostalgia is so real.
sixteen-bit
Member
How much taller is Akuma than adult Ryu? Is he standing on a box?
I can't help but feel like Ryu's right hand is a mistake. Like the image is incomplete.
Hellshingu
Member
Scratch the itch. You'll feel better.
sixteen-bit
Member
Hmmm, looks like it's using the same casing as the previous stick 8bitdo put out, which is also the same as the Venom fightstick released in Europe. Should be easy to mod with most standard parts in theory. Switch support makes it tempting, depending on the price.
Speaking of:
and also:
Arcade shock just posted these. The fightingedge is fucking bought the SECOND it is available.
Both those sticks look super sexy with a much better size/form factor than the current HRAPs. I'll probably go for the cheaper of the two.
I just wish there was a Sanwa parts option.
Where did AS post these? I checked their twitter and didn't see any details or images :<
Edit: Found the info on Facebook. Holy shit what a stick. Grabbed the full gallery of images off the FB post http://imgur.com/a/7Y1dd
Edit: Found the info on Facebook. Holy shit what a stick. Grabbed the full gallery of images off the FB post http://imgur.com/a/7Y1dd
It's actually smaller than the venom stick. It uses the same case as the Mayflash F300.
Yep I'm gonna buy that thing