DangerMouse
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Yeah, I'd especially love a properly next-gen looking Jak remake first, since the series is gone.
Sony Playstation: First Party Studios & their Current Projects
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Yeah, I'd especially love a properly next-gen looking Jak remake first, since the series is gone.
It's partially the price paid for getting games at the end of the previous generation. Some developers have to be the ones closing up and being late to the next party.
kungfuian
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I know Sony really wants to make unique games for VR but I feel like they are missing a huge opportunity by not leveraging their back catalog of first party PS3 games. I also wonder why we haven't seen VR enabled versions of more of their games in the same way RE7 handled it?
I would have expected VR enabled versions and modes in lots more current gen and PS3 games. Journey, Flower, Unfinished Swan, and even your more mainstream 3rd person adventures from last gen would be a perfect fit (my experiences with thse types of games with Vive and Dolphin VR have been great!).
Wonder what the thinking is for not doing this?
Edit- I think showing how VR can handle well known games/genres, and also how it enhances the experience, would go a long way to convincing existing gamers to dive in. The sequel rule seems like it applies to VR adoption; make us something both familiar and new at the same time. Too much new and you'll really have to prove yourself or we will reject it. We need these games as 'gateway drugs' to more dedicated VR.
I would have expected VR enabled versions and modes in lots more current gen and PS3 games. Journey, Flower, Unfinished Swan, and even your more mainstream 3rd person adventures from last gen would be a perfect fit (my experiences with thse types of games with Vive and Dolphin VR have been great!).
Wonder what the thinking is for not doing this?
Edit- I think showing how VR can handle well known games/genres, and also how it enhances the experience, would go a long way to convincing existing gamers to dive in. The sequel rule seems like it applies to VR adoption; make us something both familiar and new at the same time. Too much new and you'll really have to prove yourself or we will reject it. We need these games as 'gateway drugs' to more dedicated VR.
I think Sony learned a hard lesson with Dream. They announced the game a bit early without enough content to sell, so they went back and add more content to it. But now it's taking more time than originally planned, because they are not a big studio. Sony is gonna wait until this game is 80% complete before re-announce it. PSX is my bet.
The guy from reddit did said that we are gonna see Jak, Sly, Loco Roco, and SoTC at E3. However, we only saw SoTC so I'm guessing that we will see either a collection or new games for these three.
Yes, Stig's project cancellation really screwed up SSM's portfolio this gen. I'm expecting SSM's next game to launch with PS5. As for Quantic Dream, they released Beyond back in 2013 while pre-production for Detroit happened in early 2013. That leaves it 4 years in development assuming it will get release in 2018. This is normal for AAA development nowadays.
Because games don't fall from the sky as I said before. What did you expect? Concept arts from ND's next game? People expecting big surprises are gonna end up disappointed as we move toward the end of this gen.
As for your second point, Sony will not announce release date unless they are 100% about it. And there is nothing wrong with bringing the same games from last year, people still get excited to learn more about it. Only on GAF where you find people complain about games being shown.
As for PSX, better lower your expectation now.
Hooks
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I think they still have 2 more Sony exclusives to make, Probably see something at PSX
kotaku
World "promised" was the wrong world to use in retrospect. but he gave many interviews such as this leading up to the ps4 launch.
SolidSnakex
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Kojima hanging out with Sucker Punch at E3
duhmetree
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Didn't know that. Any source for that info?
I really hope we won't get a PlayStation 5 announcement until around 2022. I feel like the PS4 and this current generation have so much more to give, and that we are only now really getting started with lots of great games. So I rather invest money in these new games than in brand new hardware. And if I am to get a 4KTV in preparation for the next console, then man I got no money for new gaming machines too.
hmmm... NZ retailer lists GOW release date. FEB 23rd.
https://www.mightyape.co.nz/product/god-of-war-ps4/25292385
https://www.mightyape.co.nz/product/god-of-war-ps4/25292385
is it me or lately gaf has been in a state of hysteria? from backwards compatibility to cross platform play to the criticism of a solid e3 show. i don't know, it feels like a lot is being made out of these things, more than what is warranted i mean
that is crazy. damn near a 10 years gen? these cpu's are ancient these consoles can't do much more
that is crazy. damn near a 10 years gen? these cpu's are ancient these consoles can't do much more
duhmetree
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I'd be surprised if they didn't release it in 2019. Everything lines up.
PS4 will still be supported. They're not going to ignore a massive install base.
Well, a 10 year gen is nothing new. We went through such a thing last gen. Why not get a lot of games out of your current hardware for years to come instead of having to buy new toys again and again. Just because hardware can't be pushed anymore doesn't mean great games cannot be made.
I don't like this mentality of wanting new toys again and again and again just to get something new to play with.
A 2019 release for PS5 is super unrealistic. That's not gonna happen. The earliest will be 2020. In 2019 the PS4 will have been out for 4-5 years and we will be getting The Last of Us 2, Sucker Punch game , FFVII Remake and probably even a new Gran Turismo by 2022. No way are they gonna release a new console when the PS4 will be hitting its stride.
I don't like this mentality of wanting new toys again and again and again just to get something new to play with.
A 2019 release for PS5 is super unrealistic. That's not gonna happen. The earliest will be 2020. In 2019 the PS4 will have been out for 4-5 years and we will be getting The Last of Us 2, Sucker Punch game , FFVII Remake and probably even a new Gran Turismo by 2022. No way are they gonna release a new console when the PS4 will be hitting its stride.
GAF has been getting more negative this year it seems. Yikes...
ps3 came out in 2006. ps4 came out in 2013. that's not 10 years between hardware releases. and that gen was super long and the new boxes were overdue and it partially hurt the initial years of current gen. also, made it coincide with a shift in image fidelity hence we now have to deal with these largely inconsequential mid-gen refreshes.
buying a console once every 6-7 years isn't "buying new toys again and again" lmao. current boxes are already limiting and hindering new experiences. stretching them to a 10 year cycle is crazy to me. yes, they can and should still be supported after the new boxes are out but that's historically what has usually been done anyway so it goes without saying
Smokey_Run
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2019 will be 6 years. The PS360 gen lasted longer than normal likely due to the recession. Plus, weren't most other generations like 5-6 years anyways?
Triggerhappytel
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That is a sweet box art! I wasn't actually all that convinced by the Matterfall gameplay, but I tend to really enjoy Housemarque games so I'd intended on getting this regardless.
The PS5 will be 2019 or 2020 at the absolute latest. I'm expecting Death Stranding and The Last of Us II to launch on PS4 but get ports to PS5 a year later, like they did with TLoU or GTAV. Probably the same for Sucker Punch's game as well, considering it's basically a guaranteed 2019 release now.
I am really not sure they'll continue this trend of porting over games to the next generation of consoles, seeing how the next hardware will have no problem being backwards compatibility. The main reason they made so many ports was, that neither PlayStation 4 nor Xbox One (to some degree) could play past game libraries but that will not be an issue going forward.
Triggerhappytel
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I hope that's true, but I dunno man. I suppose their hand might be forced by MS doing such a good job with BC.
ArkhamFantasy
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Nothings a given at this point.
Nothing unless I missed one of Redhill's post.
I think you read my post wrongly. I said it's a sure fire thing that the PS5 will play PS4 games no question. Thus you won't see ports happening.
Laplasakos
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What reddit post? Was there a leak with future first party games?
Triggerhappytel
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I assumed Slaythe was replying to me, as you both posted your comments within a minute of each other.
Shuhei made a ''round-table'' interview with a bunch of outlets, and he answered a question on the lack of new big announcements at E3 and if we will see more of them this year still
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eirObauHR94#t=10m25s
EDIT: He also said that his favorite PS4 game is Bloodborne still lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eirObauHR94#t=10m25s
EDIT: He also said that his favorite PS4 game is Bloodborne still lol
DriftingSpirit
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My favorite game is still Bloodborne too, Shu!
Looking forward to PSX!
Looking forward to PSX!
I bet it will be some custom <successor to the Puma> job, and this time they won't make the mistake of skimping on the CPU.
And man I hope PSVR headsets are wireless by then, or at least only need one cable and no processing unit.
McMoneyman
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Considering they can announce a sequel to probably one of Playstation's most popular and well-recieved games of all time(The Last of Us) at PSX. Surely Sucker Punch's game could be there too.
Triggerhappytel
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I mean, if the stars align then E3 next year should be a cracker as timing-wise they should be on track for:
- Death Stranding gameplay (possibly? Development began in 2016 so a vertical slice in 2018 should work out)
- The Last of Us II gameplay (if it's not in full production now it probably will be in about 6 weeks once The Lost Legacy ships, so I think a gameplay demo in 12 months seems realistic)
- Sucker Punch Next's gameplay (probably getting revealed at PSX this year, but if not they could have a massive blowout next E3 ahead of its release early 2019)
- Something new from Japan Studio
- The VR game from Manchester Studio
- Something new from London Studio
- Maybe an expansion for GoW
- Maybe a teaser for whatever's next from Guerrilla (obviously it'll be Horizon 2)
Of course I'm not going to hold my breath and I know they like to spread announcements out over the year where possible.
Yeah, I think a new IP would get more attention at E3 though, whereas something like TLoU2 would get attention even in a shady anime conference.
ronaldthump
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They should have closed the conference with a logo and say "oh btw, Sucker Punch is working on this" and we'll show you at PSX
I mean Metroid Prime 4 showed nothing but a logo and its getting people all hot and bothered.
Anyhow. I loved what SP did with Infamous + LL and I can't wait to see what they're working on.
Wouldn´t work with a new ip. Would work for something like Bloodborne 2 though.
Blackleg-sanji1
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The coming year?...
Theslammer
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I'd like to point something out with Sony Santa Monica:
While Stig's game cancellation did rattle things over there, the first internally developed game for the PS3 was God of War 3, which took four years. The sequel took three since they had a handle on the hardware at that point.
Heck, even though they did Kinetica, it wasn't until four years later that we received God of War, which was five years into the generation. I feel they take their time a lot.
So I'm used to waiting for SSM. =P
Well, they do have Uncharted. =P
But once that's done, I think they're all-in on TLOU Part II for a while.
I really wish more GAFers wouldn't make comments like this.
They're working on a new IP. It took Guerrilla four years before showing Horizon. Give them time.
He said that the PS4 was easier to develop games for than the PS3, to which he is correct. It doesn't take as long to create playable code.
AAA games still require a lot more manpower compared to 10 or 20 years ago.
See above: a 5-year generation for the PS1, for example, allowed developers to get multiple games out because small teams could make graphically inferior games that didn't take as much manpower to make.
A cycle like that, or even four years like the first Xbox, would mean some developers wouldn't get a single game in a generation.
While Stig's game cancellation did rattle things over there, the first internally developed game for the PS3 was God of War 3, which took four years. The sequel took three since they had a handle on the hardware at that point.
Heck, even though they did Kinetica, it wasn't until four years later that we received God of War, which was five years into the generation. I feel they take their time a lot.
So I'm used to waiting for SSM. =P
Well, they do have Uncharted. =P
But once that's done, I think they're all-in on TLOU Part II for a while.
I really wish more GAFers wouldn't make comments like this.
They're working on a new IP. It took Guerrilla four years before showing Horizon. Give them time.
He said that the PS4 was easier to develop games for than the PS3, to which he is correct. It doesn't take as long to create playable code.
AAA games still require a lot more manpower compared to 10 or 20 years ago.
See above: a 5-year generation for the PS1, for example, allowed developers to get multiple games out because small teams could make graphically inferior games that didn't take as much manpower to make.
A cycle like that, or even four years like the first Xbox, would mean some developers wouldn't get a single game in a generation.
JuanLatino
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FF7 Remake should also be there and Shenmue 3 (if we also consider third party)
Theslammer
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So, if Days Gone, Marvel's Spider-Man, God of War, Dreams, Detroit: Become Human, WiLD and the Shadow of the Colossus Remake all make 2018...
And that doesn't include stuff we don't know about (like something else from Housemarque or a collaboration with a third party)...
Plus Red Dead Redemption 2...
And if you own a Switch, a console Pokemon game arriving next year...
Then 2018 looks like already a great follow-up to 2017, and 2017 isn't even halfway done.
Nice!
And that doesn't include stuff we don't know about (like something else from Housemarque or a collaboration with a third party)...
Plus Red Dead Redemption 2...
And if you own a Switch, a console Pokemon game arriving next year...
Then 2018 looks like already a great follow-up to 2017, and 2017 isn't even halfway done.
Nice!
You do realize TLOU wasnt announced at E3 right?
2019-2013 = 6 years
Housemarque has mentioned wanting to do a retail release in the past. I didn't think it would be a sidescroller, but I guess it is possible. I hope it helps them reach a broader audience.
As a huge Housemarque fan, I too wasn't totally convinced, until I watched this today: 10 Minutes of Matterfall Gameplay in 4K 60fps
I feel like this generation is just starting to get good, so I scoff at the thought of a PS5 anytime soon. The PS3 spoiled me with its longevity and sheer amount of quality trilogies. With a lot of new IPs taking 5+ years to develop, I think it would be foolish to go back to a ~5 year console generations. If we go back to a ~5 year console generation, with bloating development times, developers may miss generations entirely. Here we are, approaching the end of year 4, and we're about to see our first franchise sequel with Knack 2.
This thought of a PS5 release in 2019 is laughable.
It doesn't matter if it's 5-6 years, the PS4 is still just not hitting its stride. Releasing PS5 in 2019 makes no sense whatsoever.
This is exactly what I'm talking about, but some people in here are hell bent on getting that sweet new PS5 as soon as possible.
Theslammer
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BTW, we need to do plenty of updates to the OP, especially since Farpoint was released, XDev isn't really represented with its own graphics (they did the Wipeout Omega Collection), and I think Bluepoint probably needs to be represented as a studio they work with a lot since they're doing Shadow of the Colossus and brought games like Gravity Rush Remastered to the PS4.
JuanLatino, where you at?! xD~~
JuanLatino, where you at?! xD~~
So what Sneaker said about MH was true? lol
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=206558211&postcount=8672
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=206558211&postcount=8672
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