It amuses me deeply that the Republicans appear to have changed their tune originally to the positive the moment Trump was sworn in.
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Gallup: 17 point drop in "satisfaction with the direction of the US" among Repubicans
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It amuses me deeply that the Republicans appear to have changed their tune originally to the positive the moment Trump was sworn in.
MightyHedgehog
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We're only five months in and it's getting worse by the day.
Lord Frieza
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All of those were two terms Presidents, too. Trump is well on his way to those numbers and he's not even 6 months into his first term. It's crazy.
The fact that the Republicans haven't already cut Trump off and distanced themselves from him is a huge part of why I think the Russian corruption into the GOP runs deeper than we think. Current era Republicans, above all else, seem to prioritize saving their own skins at all cost and it's becoming more and more clear that Trump is a sinking ship that could easily cost them their mid-term seats.
Psychoward
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Most electoral votes ever! Just look at that map!
That February jump is so disingenuous. Just like the "Are you satisfied with the economy" question that showed Republicans suddenly saying the economy is doing great as soon as Trump was elected.
It's literally just "Is a Republican in the WH? Then everything is automatically great" like children. Interesting to see the initial euphoria appears to be wearing off however.
It's literally just "Is a Republican in the WH? Then everything is automatically great" like children. Interesting to see the initial euphoria appears to be wearing off however.
Nydius
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This was my take away too. I doubt their dissatisfaction is the same as the dissatisfaction we have for the direction of the country and the GOP in general.
I'm betting the approval rating drop among Republicans is more because they feel:
- Trump is being blocked from getting things done;
- GOP Congress isn't working close enough with Trump;
- GOP Congress isn't doing enough to stop the Russia investigation; and
- Both the GOP Congress and Trump isn't far right enough so far.
Trump pandered to the very far right with the repeal Obamacare, build the wall, drain the swamp, lock her up, bring coal back, cut more taxes rhetoric. The GOP fell in line with him after the convention when they realized they were stuck with him. Since inauguration, he's done none of these things. From the perspective of a hard right/Tea Party GOP member, Trump is just another typical politician not making good on his "promises".
gutter_trash
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the newest Congressman from Montana (body slam guy) is also talked about have Russian moneyz;
there must be more House members who are also on the take I presume
TestOfTide
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I think that might be part of the reason, but honestly I think the biggest reason that Republicans haven't ditched Trump is the following:
The majority of GOP voters have become a Trump fanbase. Now the great part about that for the GOP is that all they have to do to satisfy these voters is have Trump praise this shit and as we saw in 2016, Trump was actually able to get his fanbase to turn out to vote.
But the problem is that Trump's fanbase is a TRUMP fanbase at this point. Not a Mike Pence fanbase. Not a Paul Ryan fanbase. In some ways not even a GOP fanbase, because if the GOP tried to turn on Trump, a huge chunk of the Trump fanbase would actually turn on the GOP. No Trump's fanbase only gets as enthusiastic and excited about three things: pissing off liberals, hurting minorities, and having their leader Trump to lead them.
So imagine what would happen to Trump's fanbase if Trump were removed from office due to impeachment. It doesn't matter what the reason is that he got impeached and removed. The effect would still be the same.
First off his fanbase would be depressed because their "god" would have failed to even last as long as Obama did. And this wouldn't be like other news. They would see it live on TV as Trump is removed from office, so they literally would be forced through all 5 stages of political grief at once, including the part where they get angry at the GOP for allowing Trump to get impeached.
Then they would be further depressed, because we know they get happy about things simply because they piss off liberals, so they will know that Trump being removed from office makes liberals super happy and that will piss them off to no end. To them, Trump being removed from office would mean that liberals won regardless of anything else.
And who would the GOP be left with as President? Well probably either Pence or Ryan, and frankly it would matter which because either one would be Trump's Gerald Ford, only less likable than Gerald Ford was. Pence or Ryan as president would never be able to energize that Trump fanbase into voting like they did for Trump, and considering that they are now a majority of the GOP voters, that means the GOP would be pretty fucked. In 1974, when Nixon resigned and Ford became POTUS, Democrats managed to gain FORTY NINE seats in the house in spite already having a majority, and then 2 years later the republicans were still so depressed about Nixon resigned that Ford lost to Jimmy fucking Carter. And that's before we get into all the ways in which Mike Pence and Paul Ryan are so goddamn unlikable on a national scale that they could never win a national election on the top of the ticket.
It's very possible that top GOP leadership is also involved in this Russia stuff, but that possibility isn't needed for the GOP to want to keep Trump in office. They want to keep Trump in office because at this point without Trump and his fanbase they are nothing.
Patrick Bateman
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What, how could Truman hold both the highest approval (91% in 1945) and the lowest (22% in 1951)? WW2 and War in Korea?
And the rest of us will sink with him. If some disaster occurs on his watch, anyone even indirectly affected by it is fucked.
RumblingRosco
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Democrats did the same thing, just in the opposite direction.
TestOfTide
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I'm trying to remember exactly, but if I recall correctly, Truman was basically getting shit from every angle. Civil Rights leaders were giving him shit. Republicans were giving him shit. Dixiecrats were giving him shit. Labour unions such as Steel and Coal unions were giving him shit.
And then the Cherry on top was that no one wanted to be Truman's running mate in 52 and the one guy Truman wanted to be his running mate, Eisenhower, ended up running against him as a republican.
I think it's more proof of their cowardice than their corruption.
Might be when Ryan had to pull the plug on the AHCA vote.
TheCochese
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Isn't that when the court rulings against Trump started?
Patrick Bateman
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I just read on Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_S._Truman
But yours was mentioned, too.
As a member of Generation X, I still can't believe that a former communist state has had the most success in attacking America not with guns, but with money. Almost makes me wonder what Russia would have been like had they not wasted several decades as a semi-isolated state focused on a flawed economic and political model.
Coriolanus
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More like "is the white house white again?".
Pretty much. I'm sure they've done the math, and figured they'd lose less by sticking with Trump.
The interesting thing - to me - is that the big change for the Democrats happened at the election, whereas for the Republicans it happened at the inauguration. Both sides have two clear steps at those moments, but one came earlier than the other.
titiklabingapat
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All this political theater is exactly for this. Hammer home the fact that we are continuing on the wrong path that even some Republicans, not all, will wake up.
Lord Frieza
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When considering January and February, this idea really doesn't add up
Only 2 people that I can think of in the history of the office who could have had lower approval ratings are A Johnson and Lincoln.
Lord Frieza
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Exuse-moi?
I bet the RNC had dirt on all of its members and when Russia hacked the RNC all that data was stolen and used as blackmail.
TheCochese
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Should be obvious, right?
The GOP haven't distanced themselves from DJT because their constituents voted for him, and because his approval rating among said voters is still very high.
Shadow Puppetry
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It's not from Faux News? FAKE!
Ninja Scooter
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this is the final straw?
Tell him to just let them go. I understand his pain having gone through a similar process a bit further back, but the party left him behind. The good news is that means it won't drag him down with them because that direction is likely one he doesn't want to go in.
Centrists holding out hope.
I refuse to believe it.
I wouldn't expect many of the unrepentant racists that voted this piece of shit in to actually change their opinion. More likely than not they see liberals interfering with the will of their orange god, as somebody mentioned.
I remember another study that showed Republican favorable opinion on the economy doubled the day Trump entered office. As if he created millions of jobs the second his hand was on that bible.
And then there's the infamous FoxNews segment where some guy showed a graph of the economy of recent Presidents after a month of being in office. Of course, this gives Trump credit for what Obama left him, while simultaneously giving Obama the shit sandwich Dubbya left behind.
FantasticMrFoxdie
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Still to high?
Literally killing people taking people off insurance.
Literally killing people taking people off insurance.
He only sticks around to vote in the primaries. He hasn't voted for a GOP Pres/Senator/Rep since the first Bush II election. He tries to keep the craziest ones out of our state.
This.
Catchpenny
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The economy, as polled, is a partisan political issue that has little to do with the actual economy. Applies across the board, though likely a bit more so with Republicans.
The falling Republican number in the past couple months has to do with falling confidence in this administration, coupled with frustration among true believers that nothing much is getting through Congress.
The falling Republican number in the past couple months has to do with falling confidence in this administration, coupled with frustration among true believers that nothing much is getting through Congress.
TheCochese
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Might as well add this here:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-apos-latest-approval-162951017.html?.tsrc=fauxdal
https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-apos-latest-approval-162951017.html?.tsrc=fauxdal