Dragon Ball Super |OT6| Put your back into it.

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Gohan's bang reminds me of someone...
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Pretty sure he's going straight to mystic from now on so we'll get the bang of power often enough.

Kinda wish he had a calmer base hair style so the transition wasn't so silly. No big deal though.
 
That's how I saw it.

as if Gohan was letting himself beat up on purpose after saying that. Doesn't make sense.

Gohan was certainly not holding back to me.

Late as hell, but I wanted to add this.

If Gohan had so much power, he would have pushed Goku to his god form line Toppo or even 17. Gohan literally had to beg Goku to go all out.

I still put Gohan in the range of Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Goku, like Super Saiyan Goku to Perfect Cell.
 
It works with the final scene of the original Battle of Gods movie, where it's shown to still be stronger than the god absorbed SSJ 1.
That got changed to SSB in RoF. Super Saiyan + god ki.
The red SSG canonically is something that only existed because of the ritual.
 
Either way it's probably Spider-man. The series has so many spin-off comics, shows, and movies it'd be hard for it not to be worth more.

Uhhh I guess both?

Here's the thing, Dragon Ball has a ton of merch. On top of constant DvD sales, re edition of the manga tomes, and figures. It has the video games juggernaut.

I think Spiderman's yearly worth is a bit above a billion dollars.

Last I heard, Dragon Ball was around 5.

Two years ago ............ (so before the Super blown up)
 
Is the general consensus around here that Gohan < Golden Frieza? I felt that Gohan was actually more powerful since he had Goku take the fight seriously and incorporate kaio-ken, that coupled with the fact that Frieza has just been wasting away in Hell and likely still hasn't solved his stamina issue. So at present I'd surmise Goku > Vegeta >/= Gohan > Frieza > Android 17 and the rest really aren't worth mentioning. Is this the present standing or should the hierarchy of power has some adjustments?
 
Is the general consensus around here that Gohan < Golden Frieza? I felt that Gohan was actually more powerful since he had Goku take the fight seriously and incorporate kaio-ken, that coupled with the fact that Frieza has just been wasting away in Hell and likely still hasn't solved his stamina issue. So at present I'd surmise Goku > Vegeta >/= Gohan > Frieza > Android 17 and the rest really aren't worth mentioning. Is this the present standing or should the hierarchy of power has some adjustments?

Calling it now, 17 and/or Piccolo will own both of them and we will just be left utterly confused.
 
Maybe a weird question.

What do you think is a bigger IP, DB or Spiderman?

I don't think it's debatable. Spiderman.

Maybe that's changed with the DB movies/ Super. And the fact we're getting good DB games while there hasn't been a good Spiderman game in years, and the Spiderman movies have been failures.
 
I don't think it's debatable. Spiderman.

Maybe that's changed with the DB movies/ Super. And the fact we're getting good DB games while there hasn't been a good Spiderman game in years, and the Spiderman movies have been failures.

Read my post above.

This isn't an opinion.
 
Early DB stuff is so fascinating to me. It's so different from a lot of the Z era arc stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mP5gI7zAEGg

Yamcha returning from training by himself. We get a shot of him, raggedy from living out in the wilderness. He saves Bulma from a truck, highlighting how fast he is and giving him a tender moment with Bulma, who at that time was his gf. Was this filler?
 
Here's the thing, Dragon Ball has a ton of merch. On top of constant DvD sales, re edition of the manga tomes, and figures. It has the video games juggernaut.

I think Spiderman's yearly worth is a bit above a billion dollars.

Last I heard, Dragon Ball was around 5.

Two years ago ............ (so before the Super blown up)

Dragon Ball doesn't make $5 Billion a year. This past fiscal year DB did about $80 million for Toei and about $500 million for Bandai and that was the most it's made in ages.
Spider-Man annually makes more than double what Dragon Ball just made.
 
The comic culture isn't so developed in Europe(especially eastern one) South America and some parts of Asia, while Dragonball is like the bible in those places lol (the anime at least)
 
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