Dragon Ball FighterZ - Characters, Specials, and Stages Discussion
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Can I just say how disappointed I am that Gohan ever switched to the generic orange gi in DBZ in the first place? He had a visually unique design all through the show, and then Toriyama apparently decided he should just look like discount Goku.
He should've either kept the Piccolo-styled purple or the green and black.
Yep
Possibly one of the most popular characters introduced in the latest arc.
Super spoilers she's a
Gang Leader,short tempered,extremely capable combat genius,lesbian (?)
oh, and she also got SSJ2 like 15 minutes after transforming for the first time
She also has a nice back.
We're all hoping she doesn't get Launch'd
Soon.
I believe!
Based on what i've seen of both of them, i can tell you right now that neither kale or caulifla is going to be anywhere near worth anything in the long run.
The hype around them comes from actually existing in the first place rather than their actual handling so far. The trajectory is clear, kale is just gimmick broly to come out and turn the tides at random and caulifla is belligerent child who gets humbled by Goku and team
Lifejumper
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So what modes can we expect to see? Never played an ARC game before.
You don't know the future!
No one is actually expecting her to not job and be humbled by Goku,Vegeta,Hit or Jiren in this arc.
Her confidence and arrogance are a gigantic red flag.
People just want to have a female Saiyan who does cool shit every once a while.
A writer said on twitter that they are exploring Cabba and Vegeta's master/disciple dynamic later in this arc, and that their interactions went to multiple revisions to get both characters right, so there's definitely going to be development for the Universe 6 Saiyans
Also gentle reminder that a month ago people said RoF served no real purpose to the plot.
But we deserve more than breadcrumbs 
I mean, i was pretty excited for caulifla too just to see the majesty of a super saiyan female for the firs ttime, but then it wore off once i realized they were not planning on doing anything except putting her and Kale on the team for the tournament :l
I mean, i was pretty excited for caulifla too just to see the majesty of a super saiyan female for the firs ttime, but then it wore off once i realized they were not planning on doing anything except putting her and Kale on the team for the tournament :l
The fact that Frieza came out of nowhere is what irritates me more than anything, especially when i thought bringing him back for the movie to give him..a new coloring and inexplicable power up beyond the levels of comprehension was just creatively lazy in the first place.
I hope they are not trying to 'normalize' frieza and turn him into some sort of 'not so bad a guy after all'
Would be very surprising considering... literally everything he's done since he's been revived.
BBQMan
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Yeah its clearly not a redemption thing.
the fact that they are trying to keep making him a reoccurring character is what gets me.
You already beat him twice, but you bring him back to 'work together' just to say frieza's back in the series despite beating him the first time having been an event of momentous proportions.
Frieza's evil reign is done! He can never hurt anybody ever again, having been responsible for literally the deaths of all of saiyan kind and countless other worlds! He's too far gone to be reasoned with!
And yet now we have him on the same team to fight in a tournament because goku was an idiot and started the tournament to begin with.
Doesn't mean they'll redeem him though, could very well end up with an out to his current predicament. Like seriously, the last few episodes, it would truly be surprising if they redeemed, the dude is evil as fuck, even Goku had to vocally remind himself of that.
As for him joining the team, at the very least, makes for some damn entertaining interactions.
The entire reason why Frieza is even able to be brought back to the world of the living is because he refuses to repent. Otherwise, they would have discarded his body and scrubbed his soul clean along with his memories and had him reborn as someone new by now. Instead of repenting, he tunes out the "torture" he receives in hell by image training. Or basically, imagining himself killing goku over and over in countless ways. Oh, and he IMMEDIATELY tries to kill Goku when his guard is down after killing a ton of people the moment hes brought back
You should really check out the latest episodes....
He's gonna have to calm down to participate in the tournament eventually, although it would be interesting if it just seagewayed off into frieza trying to do his own thing immediately(because we all know he's not listening to anybody in character) with the tournament not even being a consideration, and kale, caulifla coming in to help take him out
But that would just be a retread of the movie.
The way i would have done it was...not have the frieza movie, have frieza appear now at this point for the first time since he was killed by trunks, have him train and do all sorts of shit, showing him reasonably getting powerful before being asked to join the tournament and then start what they are doing now. if they were going to go this route
The first thing they could have done was not have the tournament be under such stupid pretenses, they have ramped up Goku's idiocy in Super to parody levels
maybe then i would feel like the tournament wasn't so ridiculous and silly rather than engaging and tense
Lets Hope for the best, nobody knows If they Will discard those characters Just after the tournment, its too soon to say thatBut we deserve more than breadcrumbs
I mean, i was pretty excited for caulifla too just to see the majesty of a super saiyan female for the firs ttime, but then it wore off once i realized they were not planning on doing anything except putting her and Kale on the team for the tournament :l
EndlessSky
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I can see him trying, probably successfully, becoming a GoD after the tournament. Should make things interesting.
Definitely agreed.
I can somewhat sympathize with Toriyama's original idea being that it was probably to showcase that the "torch had been passed from father to son". But especially since that idea fell through, Gohan should have gone back to either one of his looks. And that goes for Super, too.
Arc is pretty good with piling on some decent singleplayer content. Arcade, Vs. and Network are probably safe locks, and they already confirmed that we'll get a story mode (though it won't be a straight retelling of the manga's original story).
After that, the sky's the limit. I'm personally hoping features from BlazBlue's run, like Legion Mode, Abyss Mode, and Unlimited Mars Mode can roll over right into this game, because they'd likely be good fits here.
Oh, you know he's going to be U2's GoD if that happends, because even the asshole universe couldn't handle how gangsta Frieza was trying to defect immediately after being revived to fight for U7.
Undead Fantasy
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The guy literally murdered dozens of people in episode 95 and almost killed Goku.
This was brutal.
This was brutal.
OmegaSmash
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Arcade mode
A chunky story mode
Score Attack mode (basically boss rush with super OP characters)
Combo trial and tutorial (GG and BB's combos/tutorials are really comprehensive, but Persona was rather light in tutorial content)
A gimmicky single player only mode where you can power up your character in various ways (Abyss/M.O.M/Golden Mode)
MiguelMexMIstery
Member
Totally agreed. Doesn't help that Goten also has the orange gi :/ Does he keep using the orange gi in Super or is he still using that green tracksuit from the Freezer movie? lol
Vital Tundra
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I'm not sure if anyone post it here but I thought it was pretty cool.
Now thats dope.
Now that I've caught up in Super I was extremely disappointed with Kale and Caulifla. I get that we don't need to see them work on going SSJ for 10 episodes, but with how easy it was for them it makes it a joke almost.
^THIS
I can't see them just getting rid of the new Saiyans when the tournament is over. Curious to see how this plays out. However, going by the Trunks arc, it'll be at least 6 months before we even get a hint of where it's going.
Super is basically just a rehash of DBZ so far. Nothing "new" has really happened yet. Not surprised at all that Frieza is a big player again.
He's rocking more formal wear now. I think he may have put on the orange gi once, but I don't remember. It was only for a split second if it happened.
Undead Fantasy
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You clearly haven't watched the show.
Doctrine Dark
Member
Yeah, all of this.
DBZ: Fighting Aliens > Fighting Red Ribbon Army > Fighting Aliens
what about that is new
I don't remember original DB very well, but wasn't it mostly tournaments and fighting humans aside from Piccolo? So even by your statement only the aliens part is new.
But I can break it down further if you want...
In Super we've had what is essentially
a new World Tournament again. Then we had Future Trunks go back in time again. Now we have a second World Tournament. That's two World Tournaments and a Future Trunks arc
If you remove the filler from DBZ you had:
Invasion by Saiyans > Introduction of Frieza > Androids/Future Trunks > World Tournament
In Super we have:
Invasion by Gods > Reintroduction of Frieza > Universe 6 Tournament > Zamasu/Future Trunks > All Universe Tournament
You really want to say that's not similar?
Undead Fantasy
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If you put it as simple as that then even the original Dragon Ball is repetitive.
Non tournament arc > tournament arc > non tournament arc > tournament arc > non tournament arc > tournament arc.
I think you're kinda seeing what you want to see.
I'm not a fan of all the rehashing and lazy stuff they've been doing (Freeza's back and now he's gold! Super Saiyans... but with blue hair! Hey it's Not-Freeza! Future Trunks is back! Evil Goku! Lady Broly!) but tournaments are just a big part of dragon ball and they always have been. It's an easy way to get people fighting, so they go back to it.
Future Trunks coming back is just their way of getting a fan favorite character back into the show. The story of the Zamasu arc is... completely different from the Android arc.
You can simplify the arcs way down to 3 words and make them all seem really similar... but the actual stories themselves in Super are very different.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
Yeah if you're trying to say that the Zamasu arc is a retread of the Android arc because Future Trunks is in both then you're really stretching things.
Undead Fantasy
Member
In an insanely superficial and reductive way only.
The Goku Black/Future Trunks arc resembles the Android/Cell saga in one small plot detail and in no other way. The current tournament arc has nothing in common with any other tournament held in Dragon Ball, both in terms of the long set-up, stakes and how the tournament is actually being staged.
These are the two biggest arcs in the show to date, and you have to reduce them to "Future Trunks" and "Tournament" to even make a comparison with anything in Dragon Ball Z.
The only similarity is that Trunks travels back in time because of a powerful enemy, and even then he does it for different reasons
Android Saga:
Trunks: "I traveled back in time to YOUR timeline to help you change history and save YOUR future for all of you!"
>Ends up not doing jackshit
Future Trunks Arc:
Trunks: "I need your help guys, come to MY timeline and help me fight a villain that I can't possibly defeat"
>Ends Up
**
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**Unless you read the manga, he also didn't do jackshit there
Android Saga:
Trunks: "I traveled back in time to YOUR timeline to help you change history and save YOUR future for all of you!"
>Ends up not doing jackshit
Future Trunks Arc:
Trunks: "I need your help guys, come to MY timeline and help me fight a villain that I can't possibly defeat"
>Ends Up
saving the day
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But not his timeline
FUNKNOWN iXi
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voodoopanda
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If we're being reductive, I've honestly felt in the past that everything after the very first Dragon Ball arc has basically been a mixture of three things: training, tournament, extended fight vs major villain. So that isn't really new to DB/Z/S. It's fun anyway.
If Kid Buu makes it in, I hope we get this in some form:
Would be cool as a taunt, they've already used it in Dokkan:
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
People say this, but
Trunks didn't kill Zamasu in the anime; Zeno killed Zamasu right after he took over the goddamn world. So really, what did Trunks do other than look cool for a moment like his father, until someone else robs them of the kill?
The guy literally murdered dozens of people in episode 95 and almost killed Goku.
This was brutal.
I guess his mind training included some Hokuto Shinken.