meh, the posts shitting on him have vastly more substance than the vacuous "thoughts and prayers" posts that make up half of this thread.
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John McCain has Brain Cancer
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meh, the posts shitting on him have vastly more substance than the vacuous "thoughts and prayers" posts that make up half of this thread.
My mom (57) has been self employed for about 30 years, paying for healthcare without an employer to subsidize it. With the shit Republicans are doing (including McCain) her bill is going to shoot sky high. if she got brain cancer she probably wouldnt have the coverage due to having to purchase the least expensive policy
i mean.. what else do you expect when he said the man was a coward.. but still. And yeah, its "have a cool summer!" -- thats the one that always made me feel like shit. lol.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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You're angry with regular people for not being willing to overlook McCain's participation in attempting to strip healthcare from people.
Obama and Hillary's responses are what you'd expect from any competent diplomat and neither of them have skin in this game. They're not a mistake, they're just what you'd expect.
Fuck him for potentially destroying the lives of millions. He doesn't get off scott free because he gets cancer. I can wish him well and hope he never returns to politics because he and his a party are a blight on our nation.
It's incurable so yeah
I find myself more saddened by this turn of events than I would have expected having never had any real attachment to McCain
God that is terrible, cancer is terrible news. I hope he can get a speedy recovery and direct my best wishes to his family & loved ones.
I won't pretend I care for his career as a senator or his callous endorsement of all HOP policies and Trump.
But that aside, I'm not hopeful his health will get any better at his age. Cancer fucking sucks.
I won't pretend I care for his career as a senator or his callous endorsement of all HOP policies and Trump.
But that aside, I'm not hopeful his health will get any better at his age. Cancer fucking sucks.
Yes. I don't agree with his belief, but it doesn't necessarily mean the intent behind his belief is to harm. Some people really believe a market based healthcare system would help more regardless if it actually true or not.
Snowman Prophet of Doom
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I don't agree with the last sentence, but the first paragraph is pretty reasonable.
We've been criticizing him for awhile? Wait until recovery or death, it's not like it is going to take years to do so.
edit: Not like he'll be relevant until then.
FinaruDensetsu
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At least nobody could ever criticize her about anything after that.
Joe Biden
John and I have been friends for 40 years. He's gotten through so much difficulty with so much grace. He is strong - and he will beat this.
https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/887844137034293248
@SpeakerRyan statement on McCain
https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/887843840060780545
John and I have been friends for 40 years. He's gotten through so much difficulty with so much grace. He is strong - and he will beat this.
https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/887844137034293248
@SpeakerRyan statement on McCain
https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/887843840060780545
It's not escaping me. I'm not the only person in this thread who is wishing McCain and his family well. Again, that doesn't mean I agree with all of McCain's political decisions or that I think they should be excused.
Brain cancer is fucking horrible and I've had family members die from various cancers.
Lol so if and that is a big if the nut job in North Korea has cancer we can't shit on him either? He has millions of dollars he can seek treatment for his cancer, what about those who have no money and he actually help to take treatment away for them? So no having cancer should not give you a free pass.
Ryan can get fucked thoJoe Biden
John and I have been friends for 40 years. He's gotten through so much difficulty with so much grace. He is strong - and he will beat this.
https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/887844137034293248
@SpeakerRyan statement on McCain
https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/887843840060780545
plagiarize
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I already praises the majority in this thread. My comments were aimed at what I recognised was a minority.
I won't mourn John McCain when he passes. But I won't wish for his death or suffering. Most are clearly not wishing for his death or suffering, but saying 'Fuck John McCain' in response to the news he has brain cancer isn't what I'd expect from anyone who is for universal healthcare. If you don't see the discrepancy there that's some pretty impressive compartmentilization.
His intent is irrelevant when people will die as a result. Cancer for the waiter at Applebee's is not going away because McCain had good intentions. There are cold hard facts that he is more than capable of understanding.
Psychoward
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It's not an agree/disagree statement except for his subjective feelings on their health at the end.
FinaruDensetsu
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Muffin1611
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Why? I won't let a sickness become someones identity. I treat them like a fellow human based on their character and deeds. I do the same for people I know who have cancer.
Just so happens McCain isnt a very good person, to put it mildly.
Typically when tragedy strikes, people change and will start to fervently support a cause that they otherwise wouldn't have. Hopefully this will lead to either voicing strong support of cancer research, or better healthcare for people. I highly doubt it, but I hope something positive will come of this.
Having said that, I wish Mr. McCain a speedy recovery.
Having said that, I wish Mr. McCain a speedy recovery.
Sweeney Tom
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Scalia died on my birthday and I threw two parties
Gonna throw at least one the day Kissinger goes
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I hope McCain does not suffer through this. I also hope he never returns to politics. That's where it starts and ends
He is Cancer.
Has to be the first time I've ever seen or heard someone say "speak for yourself" in response to someone hoping for a recovery from cancer.
Wanting universal healthcare for all doesn't mean I have to like you nor give you room to breath when karma comes for your ass.
That's the thing about it being universal.
I hope this approach to politics isn't widely used, it would lock up all 3 branches for GOP for years to come.
ElRenoRaven
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Well this certainly explains the behavior he was exhibiting during some of those hearings.
StriKeVillain
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*nods in approval*
i think he's an aquarius actually
Care to clarify that statement instead of being coy?
Psychoward
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It wasn't a political statement or strategy so I'm not sure how that's relevant.
Also, the dems are actually pushing how harmful the repeal/trumpcare will be and it seems to be working for them so
People should spend less time moaning about other users' reaction being not wholly sympathetic and more time examining why these users feel the way they do. McCain is a member of a political party that hates the American people, only seeing them as human so long as they get their votes. You don't have to take glee in his sickness, but you don't have to heap him with your warm and kind sympathies either he doesn't deserve them.
Snowman Prophet of Doom
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"Attempted mass murder" is reaching for the emotional top shelf and rhetorically effective, but, like, murder has a definition and stuff, and "policy that will result in more deaths than current policy" is not it, reprehensible and shameful though it may be.
I get the impression you think what you've said here is much more profound, or even just meaningful, than it actually is.
Why is that? Do you think that GOP voters would express their thoughts and prayers if say, Al Franken, or someone similar had a similar diagnosis? This came at a time when the man was actively trying to take away access to the same treatments he is getting for millions of people.
TissueBox
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Nah, I think there's a line between general empathy and probable ignorance to be drawn here. I don't think McCain would look at a sick person and feel nothing whatsoever, but one can definitely argue that no matter how well-intentioned his politics are, as a politician, he's doing more harm than good, aka malice, but as a person, ideologically, he and most GOP members are just ignorant idiots. (Not what I'm saying, but what I'm saying others are essentially saying.)
Though of course if you genuinely do think he's scum or a personal blight then by all means, it is your right to feel, and another discussion.
I don't wish suffering on anybody, but that's because of the kind of person *I* am, not the kind of people they are.
..But if this person's medical issues put off a vote that could lead to many many people suffering and dying - I'll take it as a net positive for the world. I wouldn't offer "thoughts and prayers" even if they meant a damn.
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..But if this person's medical issues put off a vote that could lead to many many people suffering and dying - I'll take it as a net positive for the world. I wouldn't offer "thoughts and prayers" even if they meant a damn.
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