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John McCain to return to the United States Senate Tomorrow for Healthcare Vote

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Wishing death on someone or implying his cancer should disqualify him is crossing a line.

Why?

Like, seriously, I don't get it. Is this a general principle thing? Is there any degree of evil where wishing (not even doing anything, mind, just wishing) for somebody to die becomes acceptable?

Is there any point where you would agree that he shouldn't be allowed to vote for medical reasons? Do you believe that if he was struck in the head by a rock and his doctor declared him mentally incapable, he should be allowed to vote? Or if he was in the depths of Alzheimer's? Because we have no way of knowing to what extent his tumor is influencing his thinking.

What's the grand point you're trying to make here? "Be nice to people, you guys?" Is that really worth standing up and defending a piece of garbage like McCain? Someone who's made a career over the past 8 years of lying outrageously about his "principles" and voting however his scumbag party asks him to?
 
I gotta peace out from this thread before my 3 days off are ruined going down this rabbit hole.

John McCain is a bloodthirsty jackass

Peace.
 
McConnell stands in the doorway of McCain's hospital room

"One last job John, your work is not done yet, one last ride."

McCain grunts in concern and looks pensive for thirty seconds.

"yeah Mitch I'll do it"

And then he kills millions
 
Wishing death on someone or implying his cancer should disqualify him is crossing a line.
Which is irrelevant since no one in this thread is wishing his death.

Funny that you think "wishing death" is crossing a line but literally sending millions of people to their deaths isn't though.

McCain is a evil piece of human scum shit, and this only proves it further. Dude's dying yet his priority is still sending millions of people to their deaths.

Fuck McCain.

His cancer should definitely disqualify him too. Have you seen him at Comet's testimony? Dude isn't in a state where he can be trusted to make rational decisions.
 
I believe voting for the death of people is crossing an even wider line.
Youre right, clearly damning this particular guy will somehow undue this by giving up your own basic decency.

McCain involving himself changes nothing one way or the other. We lost the election, one way or the other they will pass some sort of law eventually which cuts insurance subsidies for the poor. Our only chance to block that from happening was the election.
 
I am starting to get a really bad feeling about this. Collins is a solid no, but Paul can be convinced to vote "yes" if McConnell puts up a full repeal vote, Murkowski went from a "no" to a "maybe" tonight, and Heller/Capito/Portman have been silent. McCain coming back feels like McConnell was one vote short and desperately begged him to help out. If it was going to fail by 6-7 anyway why bother bringing him to DC?
 
Don't let anyone say that a little brain cancer kept John McCain from showing up on Capital Hill to deprive lower and middle class Americans of the same quality, affordable healthcare options that he's enjoying right now with a likely fatal disease ravaging the innards of his skull.
 
Youre right, clearly damning this particular guy will somehow undue this by giving up your own basic decency.

McCain involving himself changes nothing one way or the other. We lost the election, one way or the other they will pass some sort of law eventually which cuts insurance subsidies for the poor. Our only chance to block that from happening was the election.

Actually, McCain being out pretty much ensured this was never passing, but okay, just ignore that bit, who needs math!
 
I think there's a difference between holding your tongue when the lives of your supporters are on the line as a result of someone's efforts and having enough self-control to not call a biracial man (who you disagree with politically) a nigger.

I don't think it was ever proven for sure if Senator McCain told one his constituents suffering from brain cancer to move, but if it does turn out to be accurate I would call on many to rescind their comments.

The thing is, Obama and Clinton are like hate fuel for Republicans. Giving them a reason to start a fire is all Obama would do.
 
Wishing death on someone or implying his cancer should disqualify him is crossing a line.
His cancer has clearly had an impact on his ability to do his job to the degree expected out of somebody who is voting on things that can impact the lives of millions. Even if we didn't have the evidence from his disastrous questioning a few weeks back and the equally embarrassing attempt at excusing it, his recovery from his surgery has put him in a position where he should not be making the kinds of decisions he will be making here.
 
Youre right, clearly damning this particular guy will somehow undue this by giving up your own basic decency.

McCain involving himself changes nothing one way or the other. We lost the election, one way or the other they will pass some sort of law eventually which cuts insurance subsidies for the poor. Our only chance to block that from happening was the election.

Fuck decency. I want poor people to die less.
 
Youre right, clearly damning this particular guy will somehow undue this by giving up your own basic decency.

McCain involving himself changes nothing one way or the other. We lost the election, one way or the other they will pass some sort of law eventually which cuts insurance subsidies for the poor. Our only chance to block that from happening was the election.

What's this "we" stuff

lol pretending like you're not a conservative
 
Youre right, clearly damning this particular guy will somehow undue this by giving up your own basic decency.

McCain involving himself changes nothing one way or the other. We lost the election, one way or the other they will pass some sort of law eventually which cuts insurance subsidies for the poor. Our only chance to block that from happening was the election.

Stop.
 
I am literally shocked. I keep saying to myself over and over that there has to be a floor. A fucking END to how evil the GOP can be, but there is literally nothing. If they had to push through this vote by shooting small children with a shotgun while laughing, they'd fucking do it. Here comes the Maverick. The man of principle who people on this board were telling others to feel sorry for and rally around when he was sick.

He sure fooled you. To people still talking about "wow I can't believe what people in this thread are saying". SHUT. UP. I'm going to lose friends to this man. I'm going to lose loved ones because this rotten fucking cancer of a human being needs to show how big he is by flying back to DC to strip healthcare from the elderly, from the poor, from the destitute, FROM CHILDREN.

We've had to endure so much bullshit these past few months but this? This shit McCain is doing? It's the most morally disgusting thing we've had to bear witness to.

Why not just end it already GOP? Just end any pretense of trying to be good, set up the concentration camps for the poor and the minorities and take their belongings to give to the rich? Just do it already.
 
I am starting to get a really bad feeling about this. Collins is a solid no, but Paul can be convinced to vote "yes" if McConnell puts up a full repeal vote, Murkowski went from a "no" to a "maybe" tonight, and Heller/Capito/Portman have been silent. McCain coming back feels like McConnell was one vote short and desperately begged him to help out. If it was going to fail by 6-7 anyway why bother bringing him to DC?

These Nos and Undecides are just for the procedural motion to proceed with debate. So one one actually has a vote count for any bill that may come out of this process, right?

None of this makes sense. Seems insane that such an important bill is being treated like this. It's nearly 20% of our economy!
 
I am starting to get a really bad feeling about this. Collins is a solid no, but Paul can be convinced to vote "yes" if McConnell puts up a full repeal vote, Murkowski went from a "no" to a "maybe" tonight, and Heller/Capito/Portman have been silent. McCain coming back feels like McConnell was one vote short and desperately begged him to help out. If it was going to fail by 6-7 anyway why bother bringing him to DC?

Him coming is a symbolic "do the right thing" by using a dying man to push the narrative that they absolutely have to pull the trigger on harming tens of millions of people.

McCain is ironically becoming a POW for this bill. He's a prisoner to the symbolism. "How can you live with yourself if John McCain, a guy with brain cancer, voted yes and you didn't!?"

They're likely to use the cancers of nationalism, party, and pride to push people. If so, I hope we see a swarm of people ail like McCain in the future that voted yes. A party of death needs to not project that onto others, but embody what they project, too.
 
we've actually reached the darkest timeline, where calling comically evil people like the modern gop and fucking nazis (what's the difference hyuk hyuk) evil is something indefensible
 
Youre right, clearly damning this particular guy will somehow undue this by giving up your own basic decency.

McCain involving himself changes nothing one way or the other. We lost the election, one way or the other they will pass some sort of law eventually which cuts insurance subsidies for the poor. Our only chance to block that from happening was the election.

"So much for the decent left!"
 
If he votes yes after everything that's happened to him recently, quite frankly I don't give a shit about anything else he's ever done. He can drown in his own piss and I'll feel good about it. All you so-called moral finger waggers can fuck off. I won't feel anything but contempt for someone who's literally taking full advantage of free health care wantonly signing the death warrants for so many people. Like, get some fucking perspective you bottom dwellers.

Yes, this whole thing makes me furious.
 
I wish I could say that passing this horrible bill would sink the GOP, but given that the youth of this country is completely checked out at this point means that there's a good chance of the GOP retaining power no matter what they do.

Fucking depressing......
 
Youre right, clearly damning this particular guy will somehow undue this by giving up your own basic decency.

McCain involving himself changes nothing one way or the other. We lost the election, one way or the other they will pass some sort of law eventually which cuts insurance subsidies for the poor. Our only chance to block that from happening was the election.

Decency isn't what gets you elected in America, so, honestly, why should we show it?
 
I am starting to get a really bad feeling about this. Collins is a solid no, but Paul can be convinced to vote "yes" if McConnell puts up a full repeal vote, Murkowski went from a "no" to a "maybe" tonight, and Heller/Capito/Portman have been silent. McCain coming back feels like McConnell was one vote short and desperately begged him to help out. If it was going to fail by 6-7 anyway why bother bringing him to DC?

He was probably one vote from MTP. But I don't think he really knows how it is going to go from there.
 
Listen here.

I don't wish death on him and I respect his service to our country.

But if he comes back and votes Yes on a Bill he doesn't even know what the fuck is in it. Especially in his current situation. Fuck him and you can't make me respect a man that does that.
 
Guys, please. You can't be rude to people who are pushing mass murder as a political agenda. It's rude.

PS: As a war veteran myself, I would hope that if I were half the sack of shit that McCain is people would stop calling me a hero and tell me to my face to stop being a spineless piece of human detritus.
 
Youre right, clearly damning this particular guy will somehow undue this by giving up your own basic decency.

McCain involving himself changes nothing one way or the other. We lost the election, one way or the other they will pass some sort of law eventually which cuts insurance subsidies for the poor. Our only chance to block that from happening was the election.

Actually I think basic decency starts with caring about those are are too poor, sick and powerless to stop him. Anyone that truly cares about decency should be focusing there and not worrying about what kind of thread this should be. Damning him or not changes nothing about his condition or those his vote will affect. Glad to know where your concerns lie.
 
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