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John McCain to return to the United States Senate Tomorrow for Healthcare Vote
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The fuck are you on about? The vote is literally either passing by a hair or failing by one. McCain involving himself or not changes quite a bit.
So we lost an election and that means fuck millions of people? They should just lose their healthcare? People who fell for what Trump actually said he wanted to do for healthcare should just get fucked and we get to accept whatever the GOP wants because... the election? This is fucking silly. Tons of republican senators represent states that would get fucked by this. Trump himself did not run on this. Winning doesn't give you license to run over the fucking country and fuck it up the ass with a metaphorical rake. We shouldn't just shrug and say oh well that's that. Democracy shouldn't just be a 4 year thing or a 2 year thing or even a 1 year thing. It's every fucking day and if assholes like McCain want to vote for bullshit that fucks over their constituents then they should feel the full wrath and ire of those constituents they are literally killing.
And if I'm giving up my basic decency by defending millions of people's right to healthcare over this old fucking asshole's right to vote it away then fuck decency.
balladofwindfishes
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There's no timeline, whenever they want. They could hold the vote 20 minutes later if they wanted.
McConnell has to announce the contents of the bill within 36 hours, though.
McCain is the grim reaper.
And people couldn't pass up the chance to lecture again.
I am guessing they aren't losing their health care.
FrenchMovieTheme
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What if McCain is going there under the assumption he will vote Yes but then says get fucked Mitch/Trump, and votes no!
That's why you listen to me, not them.
That bill is not dead.
Trump will not get impeached.
Trump will not get removed.
Trump will not resign.
Box of Kittens
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But they're being so polite when doing so, and that's the really important thing.
Will Trump die of heart disease?
Probably.
BronsonLee
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I don't listen to jobbers who try to stop me from wildin' out with Nick Cannon
adamsappel
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An 80-year-old man who just had brain surgery. I bet he looks great! He's going to cut such an inspiring figure in the fight to deny people health care.
You're posting on GAF, you're part of GAF. But as others have said, this isn't the same. That vote was dead, this is something else entirely
balladofwindfishes
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Tomorrow is to move forward with a debate on the bill.
Some bill
Nobody knows what bill. Not even those voting to move forward.
They won't vote on the actual bill tomorrow, since most senators want an amendment process. Also McConnell has to figure out what he wants to do about the parliamentary saying his bill needs 60 votes.
So Mueller's just twiddling his thumbs then?
Oh hi gutek
All that KFC ain't helping.
Emotions aside, it absolutely 100% does. That is what happens with authority, the people in charge do what they want and we grant them the power to do that.
That'd be the dream wouldn't it? Just give no fucks and go in on the president? Not going to happen, but a man can dream.
This is rather concerning. They either already have the votes (with him present) to proceed on the healthcare bill. Or they're hoping to swindle/bully the maybe/not voters into voting yes because this American Hero is sacrificing his own recovery to Make America Great etc by being present for these votes.So you better vote yes or be labeled traitor.
Whatever the reason the fact they are making him fly in (or him being willing) just amazes me how low the GOP keep going after already hitting rock bottom; like mantle bottom or magma bottom. I feel there is no level they won't sink to now; and that's terrifying. Eventually if they don't succeed this time we'll get to the point where they'll hold kids hostage at gunpoint and make the Dems vote for their healthcare bill.
Whatever the reason the fact they are making him fly in (or him being willing) just amazes me how low the GOP keep going after already hitting rock bottom; like mantle bottom or magma bottom. I feel there is no level they won't sink to now; and that's terrifying. Eventually if they don't succeed this time we'll get to the point where they'll hold kids hostage at gunpoint and make the Dems vote for their healthcare bill.
Don't underestimate how impatient these fucks are, though. They might gun for it blindly.
SpaceCadetKeon
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In the last thread, I told him to hang in there.
I take it back. All aboard the Fuck McCain Train.
I take it back. All aboard the Fuck McCain Train.
Mueller could uncover pics of Putin and Trump fucking on a printout of their "intent to collude" contract, Republicans would handwave it away.
Bam Bam Baklava
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I'd love to see you explain MTP, amendment votes, the Byrd rule, and the parliamentarian's rules. But you can't, because you're an ignorant concern troll.
Netherscourge
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Didn't McCain already tell McConnell that he's voting for Repeal?
That's why they delayed the vote in the first place.
Forget about McCain, folks. You need to hope those few GoP Senators who are against Repeal without Replacement are STILL voting No.
If they flipped, then it's all over for the ACA and any semblance of affordable, universal healthcare.
That's why they delayed the vote in the first place.
Forget about McCain, folks. You need to hope those few GoP Senators who are against Repeal without Replacement are STILL voting No.
If they flipped, then it's all over for the ACA and any semblance of affordable, universal healthcare.
While it is very possible they have the votes, they've also been vocal in saying they just want to get close enough to ratchet up pressure on the 'No' votes. No need to fly McCain in for that though, everyone knows he is a yes
Okay, thank you for clearing this up
Uh, no, in a democratic society that is not how it's supposed to work at all. One side can be weighted, but you're still supposed to come together to represent as many people as possible. What you just described is authoritionism
Contrast it with Ted Kennedy, who spent his last days working on the ACA and died before he could see it passed, but ensuring healthcare for millions, mostly women and children.
balladofwindfishes
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They don't have the votes to do that. Senators are only voting to move forward because they want their own piece in the bill.
EdibleKnife
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Remember too that there's also a push among the GOP to exempt themselves from the "healthcare" they want to push on every other American citizen. McCain literally gets to vote to push this thing forward and return to his hospital bed if he wishes, comforted by the fact he won't have to pay nearly the same price as literally everyone else he shares the hospital with.
Glitchesarecool
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lol it's mccain he's a free yes vote for anything republican
aspiegamer
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For a guy I've at least generally respected over the years for his service (even if not agreeing with him on most things), I really don't know how to feel about this. It's a man who's a certifiable war hero and long-time senator literally being okay with risking death for a chance to take health care away from potentially tens of millions of poor people. Worse, it'll probably be his last action in the Senate other than perhaps a vote on the final bill, which would be even more disgustingly shameful.
Fuck it. Nope. This is too far. Resign officially and have the governor of Arizona ship out his temporary replacement if you need the vote that desperately. I dislike having to admit I'm rooting against a man with potentially terminal brain cancer. Just stay home. Please.
Fuck it. Nope. This is too far. Resign officially and have the governor of Arizona ship out his temporary replacement if you need the vote that desperately. I dislike having to admit I'm rooting against a man with potentially terminal brain cancer. Just stay home. Please.
I agree the GOP should NOT be pushing for this, at all. They should tell him, stay home, please get better John. You know, be decent human beings lol.
But, if he does get ill or worse, in the end it's his own doing.
You're supposed to, you don't have too.
Fine Ham Abounds
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Not sure if ironic or apropos.
andythinkpad
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Just make sure he get to screw the American people before his last breath.
Imperfected
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Even before the cancer, he had to have been keenly aware he was approaching the end of his life and career. If he was going to "come to Jesus" as a result of his impending mortality, it would have happened already.
He is the putrid coward he's allowed himself to become. His pursuit of power mortgaged whatever decency and honor he had, and left him this bitter, wasted shell.
You hold them to that standard
The abortion issue is definitely going to be interesting, and something that everyone's been kind of sleeping on in the discussion about the bill.
Keep feeding yourself bullshit.
I've heard similar shit before:
"Explain demographics, Trump's approval, electoral college, checks and balances, polling, Brexit being totally different."
No, it really doesn't. You still should have to answer to your voters. There should (theoretically) be a fear that you'll get fucked next election or impeached or affected in some way. That's democracy. The republicans have insulated themselves from some of these effects with gerrymandering, but there should be more there. Democracy doesn't give you power to do whatever the hell you want and it never has. They should stick close to the will of the voter or feel the heat.
Bam Bam Baklava
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So you're admitting that you are an ignorant concern troll or what?
Seductivpancakes
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What a maverick.
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