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So do Republicans have enough votes to continue the repeal?

Very doubtful. Murko and Collins were a no even on the motion to proceed, so they're no on everything. Paul will be a no on anything not full repeal. Heller will be against everything when they get into because his seat is up, at minimum he definitely is against full repeal. McCain was a no on the last bill and will likely be a no for most things. A few other senators are nos on various forms of the BCRA. So there's at least 3 senators that are a no for anything that comes out of this.
 
At the end of the day keep calling your senators people.

I know shit feels hopeless these days all the time, but at least for now we still live in democracy and votes do matter. 2018 should be a big year for everyone.
 
It's a partisan vote, and a speech about a bipartisan future that has no basis in reality, and McCain absolutely knows it. He's utterly useless.

I take it more as code for saying Dems should vote for whatever the GOP proposes. He's not interested in Dems actually being able to offer competent legislation.
 
Very doubtful. Murko and Collins were a no even on the motion to proceed, so they're no on everything. Paul will be a no on anything not full repeal. Heller will be against everything when they get into because his seat is up. McCain was a no on the last bill and will likely be a no for most things. A few other senators are nos on various forms of the BCRA.
Naw, Paul just demanded a vote on full repeal. He's putting on a show but he'll be a soldier when his vote fails.

Same with the Cruz Amendment. They'll cut it, but he'll eat shit and fall in line if they give him a chance to sell it and nobody buys it.

It'll be easier for them to bend Heller in this context. I'm doubtful that they won't rally their boys around something.
 
You know I wished McCain well, and I still do, but come on.

We're a bunch of posters on a gaming forum. We don't have super powers, wishing good health or death won't do anything to the man. I have no problem with those wishing ill on the man.

Not sure why people get so bent out of shape with stuff like this.

Dude had a chance to redeem himself and he fucked it up.
 
Naw, Paul just demanded a vote on full repeal. He's putting on a show but he'll be a soldier when his vote fails.

Same with the Cruz Amendment. They'll cut it, but he'll eat shit and fall in line if they give him a chance to sell it and nobody buys it.

It'll be easier for them to bend Heller in this context. I'm doubtful that they won't rally their boys around something.

No question that Cruz will eat shit. That being said, Paul is far more consistent.
 
Yea. I'm finding it hard to disagree with that general premise. Whatever gets done needs to be bipartisan. Shit is broken as it is now.
You go to the hospital because you're literally shitting blood.

Two doctors look over your case.

Doctor one says, "You have rectal cancer. You need surgery and chemo."

Doctor two says, "You have floopity blood of the droopsie-gloop. I prescribe leeches and a nice, long exorcism."

The doctors are fighting a lot over the alternatives, so you solemnly, soberly declare that they should split the difference: You'll allow them to perform the exorcism and do surgery on the leeches.

Later, you die of fucking rectal cancer.

Bipartisanship.
 
It's like if Brian's Song included Brian Piccolo rising heroically from his bed, going to the stadium, and then stomping on a puppy in front of tens of thousands of people.
 
You go to the hospital because you're literally shitting blood.

Two doctors look over your case.

Doctor one says, "You have rectal cancer. You need surgery and chemo."

Doctor two says, "You have floopity blood of the droopsie-gloop. I prescribe leeches and a nice, long exorcism."

The doctors are fighting a lot over the alternatives, so you solemnly, soberly declare that they should split the difference: You'll allow them to perform the exorcism and do surgery on the leeches.

Later, you die of fucking rectal cancer.

Bipartisanship.

The only thing that would get votes from both parties is a stabilization of the current system. Imperfect, but something worth settling for.
 
I was more referring to the dude wishing death on McCain.

I wish every single person in that room who voted yes just dropped dead of natural causes before their actions lead to the deaths of innocent people.

I also wish I had a billion dollars and could buy a big house in California with a helicopter and my own private IMAX.

Neither of these things will happen. I don't see how that violates NeoGAF TOS.
 
You go to the hospital because you're literally shitting blood.

Two doctors look over your case.

Doctor one says, "You have rectal cancer. You need surgery and chemo."

Doctor two says, "You have floopity blood of the droopsie-gloop. I prescribe leeches and a nice, long exorcism."

The doctors are fighting a lot over the alternatives, so you solemnly, soberly declare that they should split the difference: You'll allow them to perform the exorcism and do surgery on the leeches.

Later, you die of fucking rectal cancer.

Bipartisanship.

Solution is what then? Dissolve the republican party? Good luck with that.
 
You go to the hospital because you're literally shitting blood.

Two doctors look over your case.

Doctor one says, "You have rectal cancer. You need surgery and chemo."
Doctor two says, "You have floopity blood of the droopsie-gloop. I prescribe leeches and a nice, long exorcism."

The doctors are fighting a lot over the alternatives, so you solemnly, soberly declare that they should split the difference: You'll allow them to perform the exorcism and do surgery on the leeches.

Later, you die of fucking rectal cancer.

Bipartisanship.
But center-ism, Macron and stuff.
 
I wish every single person in that room who voted yes just dropped dead of natural causes before their actions lead to the deaths of innocent people.

I also wish I had a billion dollars and could buy a big house in California with a helicopter and my own private IMAX.

Neither of these things will happen. I don't see how that violates NeoGAF TOS.

I think it's pretty obvious he just didn't read who I was quoting and just said that to save face.

Especially since my rebuke of McCain is pretty tame in comparison to the posts around it.
 
Solution is what then? Dissolve the republican party? Good luck with that.
I mean yes that would be nice. The better short term solution is to not work with Republicans on bills because outside of the Russian sanctions they're pretty much all garbage

I know if my 2 dem senators worked to make the aca worse I'd be pissed and vote them out.
 
I think it's pretty obvious he just didn't read who I was quoting and just said that to save face.

Especially since my rebuke of McCain is pretty tame in comparison to the posts around it.

My favorite post in this entire thread was that guy that said "I hope his brain pops on the plane 🤷". I typed out some shit like that like four times but never had the balls to hit post. Props to him.
 
Way I look at it, theres billions of people out there. Im not gonna empathize with every one, especially if their actions harm the less fortunate.


Get fucked Mccain u sad sack of shit.
 
Solution is what then? Dissolve the republican party? Good luck with that.

There is no solution until the GOP decides to start acting in good faith. If they don't act in good faith, then there can't even be a starting point. Because what will happen is that whatever shit they propose will just have an easier time getting passed.

ACA discussion was being bi-partisan. We ended up with a heavily watered down bill only to have no GOP support during the vote. And now we stand a good chance of it just being nuked completely.
 
Ok. Good luck.
Republicans steadfastly refused to join with the Democrats on anything substantive for six long years after they retook the House, systematically undermining and attacking every piece of proposed legislation that had any association with or closeness to the sitting president. They were rewarded with both chambers of Congress, most of the country's statehouses and governors' mansions, and the White House.
 
There is no solution until the GOP decides to start acting in good faith. If they don't act in good faith, then there can't even be a starting point. Because what will happen is that whatever shit the propose will just have an easier time getting passed.

ACA discussion was being bi-partisan. We ended up with a heavily watered down bill only to have no GOP support during the vote. And now we stand a good chance of it just being nuked completely.
Yep, even outside of that show me a good Healthcare bill that the Republicans propose that wouldn't upset the Dem voters. It's not gonna happen. They're not gonna be bipartisan because the Republicans will not try to pass anything that's remotely bipartisan.

Good luck indeed, good luck getting Dem senators to vote on repealing aca, LGBT rights, climate change protection etc.

I can't believe it's 2017 and people still think the solution is to work with the Republicans to draft legislation that benefits everyone. How naive can you be?
 
Great job coming all that way to continue a doomed charade, McCain. "Historic" isn't quite the word... Certainly an interesting insight into what motivates you.
 
Yep, even outside of that show me a good Healthcare bill that the Republicans propose that wouldn't upset the Dem voters. It's not gonna happen. They're not gonna be bipartisan because the Republicans will not try to pass anything that's remotely bipartisan.

Good luck indeed, good luck getting Dem senators to vote on repealing aca, LGBT rights, climate change protection etc.

There is a point where the Reps will have failed to pass enough bills that they will be left with making the current system stable or nothing. I find it more likely that they'll hold on to nothing but the former would have votes from both sides.

No one is suggesting that dems vote yes on anything that makes the ACA worse here.
 
Yep, even outside of that show me a good Healthcare bill that the Republicans propose that wouldn't upset the Dem voters. It's not gonna happen. They're not gonna be bipartisan because the Republicans will not try to pass anything that's remotely bipartisan.

Good luck indeed, good luck getting Dem senators to vote on repealing aca, LGBT rights, climate change protection etc.

I can't believe it's 2017 and people still think the solution is to work with the Republicans to draft legislation that benefits everyone. How naive can you be?

Liberals love giving Republicans the benefit of the doubt for some reason. I told my sister about McCain's cancer this morning and she was like "aww he was always one of the good ones". I feel like I'm the crazy person every time I hear some bullshit like that.
 
Posted in the other thread.

I actually don't hate McCain, but this is rather vile symbolically. Really fucked up. Like absolutely disgusting.
 
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