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[Ricerocket]

Yikes. He clearly used it as an insult and then you can see that he KNEW he fucked up by letting it slip and tried to play it off saying he meant to say some other insulting word. That's not something that should come to mind at the spur of a moment.

 

[NexusCell]

Dude is using the max situation as a launch board for mental gymnastics to claim pewds didn't mean to say the n word and isn't a racist. You sure you want to hitch your wagon to that horse?

He is not. You are.

 

[Toni]

Where is his GAF defense force now?

Oh, stay put.

There's a good number of them around. You'll find a few more as thread goes on with insane analogies as to why this is acceptable.

 

[Toxi]

I wonder if in the future "Nigger" will just end up being a insult specifically for mutliplayer gaming community at large and people will forget it's racial origin.

The people using it haven't forgotten its racist origin. That's why they use it.

 

[Salarians]

I wonder if in the future "Nigger" will just end up being a insult specifically for mutliplayer gaming community at large and people will forget it's racial origin.

🤔

 

[ZROCOOL]

I thought this dude called it quits..

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Dude is using the max situation as a launch board for mental gymnastics to claim pewds didn't mean to say the n word and isn't a racist. You sure you want to hitch your wagon to that horse?




Ive been called the n word in hate many time so please forgive me for thinking someone who defends the use of slurs regardless of context is a bit racist.

I don't think that's what is happening at all. Context does matter, as does intent, and malice.

 

[Nightwing123]

Dude is using the max situation as a launch board for mental gymnastics to claim pewds didn't mean to say the n word and isn't a racist. You sure you want to hitch your wagon to that horse?

I said nothing like that, all I was saying is that this situation is different from the Max thing. I hate PewDiePie.

 

[Kurdel]

I think there's a difference in context from a non American saying the n word because outside of the US it's a non native word and that takes some of the weight of it. Doesn't mean you can say it but more that it might be ignorance or just lacking proper education/life experience.

And if he uses as an insult, that is still fine because of his “lack of context”?

This is such a bullshit argument, I am from Québec and people who consume american media know it’s taboo fullstop.

Especially if he has american followers, he knew better, but doesn’t give a shit.

They don’t care anymore if people know they are racist or white suprematists, and this isn’t an isolated event.

Is n***r that offensive??? I'm from EU and had to watch the video to know what n***r actual means...

I'm not that in into US culture... were does the word really come from? sounds like a variation of negro.

I don't give a fuck about PewDiePie to be true I may have just whatsched it two times and quitted his videos 'cause found them annoying.

Try reading a bit more world history before “just asking questions” on Neogaf.

 

[N30RYU]

Is n***r that offensive??? I'm from EU and had to watch the video to know what n***r actual means...

I'm not that in into US culture... were does the word really come from? sounds like a variation of negro.

I don't give a fuck about PewDiePie to be true I may have just whatsched it two times and quitted his videos 'cause found them annoying.

 

[GHG]

This fucking guy.

Edit...:

Is n***r that offensive??? I'm from EU and had to watch the video to know what n***r actual means...

I'm not that in into US culture... were does the word really come from? sounds like a variation of negro.

I don't give a fuck about PewDiePie to be true I may have just whatsched it two times and quitted his videos 'cause found them annoying.

This fucking guy...

 

[luckygodzilla]

To the suprised of absolutely no one.

 

[SmokedMeat]

He just casually let it out like it's nothing.

 

[jtb]

I wonder if in the future "Nigger" will just end up being a insult specifically for mutliplayer gaming community at large and people will forget it's racial origin.

Why do you think the multiplayer gaming community uses it in the first place?

 

[PK Gaming]

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People make mistakes. Ryan Davis once said faggot on stream, should I have called him homophobic?

Oh for sure, sometimes I get so angry I accidentally slip out the most vicious racial slur on the planet.

Yeah right. The only reason it slipped out is because it's a word he likely frequently uses. Nobody "accidentally" says the N-word without partially meaning it.

 

[SleepingDragon]

I wonder if in the future "Nigger" will just end up being a insult specifically for mutliplayer gaming community at large and people will forget it's racial origin.

Wouldn't even surprise me tbh.

 

[demosthenes]

The defense "word fumble" is just like defending trumps sexual comments as locker room talk. Stop it.

 

[spons]

Fuck off with the "he lives in Europe" shit. He lives in the UK, he will 100% know that saying nigger is racist.

It's a crappy excuse anyway since tons of Europeans learned at least parts of their English vocabulary through American media, yet conveniently forget about racist bullshit. Merely pretending to be ignorant.

 

[Deepwater]

I wonder if in the future "Nigger" will just end up being a insult specifically for mutliplayer gaming community at large and people will forget it's racial origin.

maybe if black people stop playing online games.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

And you guys keep giving him attention with threads like this and wonder why he keeps doing it.

You honestly think GAF threads are really fueling this idiot that much?

You honestly think he's being racist in front of his millions of subscribers on a regular basis because GAF is giving him attention?

You honestly think the attention he's getting for being racist in public is really the sort of attention he wants?

C'mon, man. What use/purpose is there in suggesting the reason the racist guy is racist in public is the fault of the pseudonym'd semi-frequent users of online gaming forum NeoGAF? What are you getting out of that premise?

It's a bad premise.

He's a racist idiot because that's what he is. Whether there's a thread on NeoGAF discussing him or not doesn't factor into it at all.

Our status as one of many online peanut galleries has nothing to do with why he is the way he is.

 

[yuoke]

And sadly a huge amount of the kids that watch him will idolize this and turn out to be /r/thedonald/4chan memer asshats.

 

[Jangowuzhere]

i'm not saying that he dosn't know that the world shouldn't be said,being a big part of his audience from the US
but knowing that something is offensive for another "culture" and finding it offensive enough to nowt saying it by yourself just for that is another thing entirely

basically,in the US that word is so demonized that only an impenitent racist would use it in public..it's ingrained in your "values" that that word must not be spoken ever..like here it's for blasphemies in public...for someone from europe that only speaks english though,that barrier is not there,and you can see people using it jokingly or in a light way,otr just a traight ignorant one.

This Europe does not exist, what are you even talking about?

I've never heard of this larger cultural divide between the US and EU over the use of the word n****r. Especially with our globalized societies and the internet and such, the word is obviously 100% offensive.

 

[Interface23]

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People make mistakes. Ryan Davis once said faggot on stream, should I have called him homophobic?

If Max or Ryan Davis had a history like Pewds? Yes. But they don't/didn't, so obviously not. You can give people the benefit of the doubt once, but when they show it is part of their character than they are just asshats.

 

[Inuhanyou]

People make mistakes. Ryan Davis once said faggot on stream, should I have called him homophobic?

It doesn't matter. You should not be giving people a pass or dismissing things outright regardless of the context. that's how normalization starts.

 

[Doc Holliday]

Sheesh, with that hard Tarantino ‘er’ too. Can’t blame it on having just finished listening to Kanye.

 

[Toxi]

Is n***r that offensive???

Yes.

 

[JigglesBunny]

Oh look, PDP being an ass. Shocked.

Looking forward to the videos next week about the "witchhunt" on him and how "a joke was taken horribly out of context."

Is n***r that offensive??? I'm from EU and had to watch the video to know what n***r actual means...

I'm not that in into US culture... were does the word really come from? sounds like a variation of negro.

I don't give a fuck about PewDiePie to be true I may have just whatsched it two times and quitted his videos 'cause found them annoying.

You've got to be shitting me.

 

[Suburban Thug]

I don't think that's what is happening at all. Context does matter, as does intent, and malice.

Emotional topic. If I misread or misunderstood then I apologize but it seemed like dude was using max as an example to claim pewds made a mistake when he clearly did not.

 

[TheMrPliskin]

Once again. Fuck this guy and anybody who defends him.

 

[Rhaknar]

not even the "ga" version huh, straight up the full word with every sylable.

well alrighty then >_>

Is n***r that offensive??? I'm from EU and had to watch the video to know what n***r actual means...

I'm not that in into US culture... were does the word really come from? sounds like a variation of negro.

I don't give a fuck about PewDiePie to be true I may have just whatsched it two times and quitted his videos 'cause found them annoying.

you could be from Mars and you would still, in 2017, know what the word means. Give me a fucking break lol.

 

[Gentleman Jack]

People make mistakes. Ryan Davis once said faggot on stream, should I have called him homophobic?

Did Ryan Davis have the same long history of "mistakes" that PDP has?
Did a single person here tell you how to feel about PDP before coming in here with this defensive deflection?

 

[13ruce]

I wonder if in the future "Nigger" will just end up being a insult specifically for mutliplayer gaming community at large and people will forget it's racial origin.

🤔

 

[kadotsu]

Finally we have arrived at the "language is evolving" fallacy. Next we'll be talking about the differences between -er and -a and how maybe his accent made it unclear, because why not go more stupid.

 

[Alpha Phoenix]

Entirely normal for him, from whatever I've seen/heard of him.

 

[Zabka]

PUBG doesn't build character. It reveals it.

 

[Anung]

People trying to hand wave it away as "he doesn't understand the weight of what he's said" can go fuck themselves. If he didn't realise the severity of the word he just said he wouldn't have tried to walk it back literal seconds later.

 

[Chainsawkitten]

- It's just a word.
- Racist.
- Whoa, whoa, whoa! Let's not use that word!

 

[CaptainClaw]

I'm catalan, some spanish people instult me just for be catalan and I can understand a little this situation.
For example some call us catalufos or things like that, we try not to use this terms between us. But I also understand some people who want to use it.

I really feel I asked kind of a taboo, I'm sorry,

Great to see your understanding and I sympathise.

 

[Mr. Smiley]

As i said, forgive, not forget. even with apologies and excuses, even out of context, for that word to come to mind, you have to think about your words and the people who use them. there are no dismissals.

I get that, but when you start bringing it up and comparing to an actual scumbag who regularly flaunts his hate on a platform popular with kids no less, I'm gonna have to object there and clearly define why these situations are not comparable.

 

[Auraela]

not only how he says the word is bad but its the fact seconds later after releasing his mistake then uses asshole instead, effectively comparing black people to assholes.

 

[RoyalFool]

If a friend used that slang term in a private chat, I'd disown them.

Saying it on a live stream infront of thousands, and having it likely replayed to millions. The guy needs to fucking pull the plug and go offline.

 

[LAM09]

Add that to the long list of things he's said

 

[KingParappa]

I wonder if in the future "Nigger" will just end up being a insult specifically for mutliplayer gaming community at large and people will forget it's racial origin.

yeah that's not going to happen.

 

[Easy_D]

well there was also this which caused a fair bit of debate:

If I remember correctly, the issue wasn't the name at all, it was that the marketing hinted at black culture (going by Center against Racism's words), with graffiti and such. (Now, that might've just been a coinkydink, and linking graffiti styled ads to black culture might itself be seen as racist). Nevertheless, it appears they had a case.

Also a spokesman said the ice cream's advertising campaign was hinting at street culture. So take that as you will

 

[kiguel182]

And if he uses as an insult, that is still fine because of his “lack of context”?

This is such a bullshit argument, I am from Québec and people who consume american media know it’s taboo fullstop.

Especially if he has american followers, he knew better, but doesn’t give a shit.

They don’t care anymore if people know they are racist or white suprematists, and this isn’t an isolated event.

I'm not excusing him. I know he knows it and the way he uses it makes it obvious his intent.

I've seen people use it (even in media) that I don't think this applies. Context is definetly important.

Here, he knows what he is doing and it's not excusable. I say that in my post.

 

[SheHateMe]

I wonder if in the future "Nigger" will just end up being a insult specifically for mutliplayer gaming community at large and people will forget it's racial origin.

Spoiler Alert: No. Never. Not as long as African Americans exist. We won't let ANYONE forget, no matter how much certain people want us to forget.

Fuck PDP. Period.

 

[malfcn]

Well I mean it's DSP. Did you expect anything else from him? lol

https://youtu.be/rvnTTu-FR4w?t=5m40s

Found the clip if anyone wants to report DSP for calling them a ladyboy.

 

[ZeoVGM]

People make mistakes. Ryan Davis once said faggot on stream, should I have called him homophobic?

PewDiePie has a history of "mistakes." And if you took a moment to read the thread, you'd know that this "mistake" happened because he was currently running with a joke where he was purposefully trying to say something that sounded like the word, but wasn't. Until it was.

At a certain point, it's clear it's not a "mistake."

 

[Buckle]

I wonder if in the future "Nigger" will just end up being a insult specifically for mutliplayer gaming community at large and people will forget it's racial origin.

Racist people still use it religiously, black people are still getting treated like shit and mowed down by the police, don't see that happening anytime soon.

 

[TimeEffect]

People used to say "Pewdiepie is annoying, but at least he's a good dude"

Dude is too rich for it to affect him, but he could have had a clean image, relatively speaking