PewDiePie calls someone a "fucking n****r" during PUBG livestream

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Well it's time for youtube, twitch and all these places to take responsibility for what their creators use their services for. Close channels, delete videos, withdraw support.

Take a god damned stand you cowards.
 
The fact is, most racist defenders always tell everybody how ''n**ga'' is only a joking word just like ''asshole'', and ''anyone could say it accidently, it's not racist''
People say that, but it's absolutely untrue so repeating it as though it has any more wiggle room than the actual word is just perpetuating those sorts of notions.

uhhh this is probably a road you don't want to go down

I think you must have misunderstood my post. Here's an excellent post by someone else articulating what I meant:

Black guy here...

I know many of you mean well, but I think we should stop perpetuating the notion that "nigger" is offensive, but "nigga" is an acceptable term of endearment.

In the black community, it is used as a term of endearment. It's also used as an insult. It's often used as an empty pronoun in reference to any person, regardless of their race or ethnicity. Basically, the word is used so liberally, that the meaning behind it is purely contextual.

But it's important that you note I said "in the black community". If you are outside of the black community, chances are that if a black person that hears you using any pronounciation of it, he/she will be offended. They may or may not make this known, but this is the reality. Also, there are many black people who find the word offensive, regardless of who says it. Finally, there are people who aren't black who feel the same way.

I just don't want anyone finding themselves in an unneccisary altercation, because the Internet told them "nigga" was a-ok.
 
I'm pretty toxic online. I have a rather short temper and get frustrated easily. I'm known for cursing out teammates in most every competitive game I play.

And yet... in all my outbursts I've never once used a racial, homophobic, or sexist slur.

How is it that I'm able to contain myself even in a fit of rage, and so many other people can't? It's not hard, lol.

I'm guessing it's a lot harder for people who probably use that language in their day to day life.
 
I'm pretty toxic online. I have a rather short temper and get frustrated easily. I'm known for cursing out teammates in most every competitive game I play.

And yet... in all my outbursts I've never once used a racial, homophobic, or sexist slur.

How is it that I'm able to contain myself even in a fit of rage, and so many other people can't? It's not hard, lol.

i was like that too but then i thought that it's just a game and they are my friends even if they have a shitty aim!
But i take pleasure in saying "fuck you" with a low calm voice while my killer is looting my body....
 
Well it's time for youtube, twitch and all these places to take responsibility for what their creators use their services for. Close channels, delete videos, withdraw support.

Take a god damned stand you cowards.
Twitch does ban people.

YouTube doesn't censor the word nigger, their stance is fairly open they just remove ads from certain videos.
 
I'm pretty toxic online. I have a rather short temper and get frustrated easily. I'm known for cursing out teammates in most every competitive game I play.

And yet... in all my outbursts I've never once used a racial, homophobic, or sexist slur.

How is it that I'm able to contain myself even in a fit of rage, and so many other people can't? It's not hard, lol.

Not to burst your bubble, but...if you aren't throwing out racial, sexual, or sexist slurs, you aren't being that toxic online.

That's how low the bar is; you might think you're a piece of shit but the actual pieces of shit are far beneath that. If there's even a hint of constructive criticism in your accusations, you're far better than the toxicity laden in the Internet.
 
I'm pretty toxic online. I have a rather short temper and get frustrated easily. I'm known for cursing out teammates in most every competitive game I play.

And yet... in all my outbursts I've never once used a racial, homophobic, or sexist slur.

How is it that I'm able to contain myself even in a fit of rage, and so many other people can't? It's not hard, lol.
You're a normal functioning member of society who doesn't rely on being an idiot for income.
 
The only thing you need to know about Boogie is that the only time he doesn't fence sit is when it involves fat shaming which should tell you all you need to know about his "kindness".
 
This could be the actual end of his career, this isn't a ''tasteless joke'' like last time, this isn't even an attempted joke.

It's literally him angrily calling someone a ''fucking n***er'' twice....on a livestream...

I don't think the media will let this one go.

As much as he deserves it, it won't be the end of his career. He'll just make some bullshit apology and that will be the end of it.
 
Twitch does ban people.

YouTube doesn't censor the word nigger, their stance is fairly open they just remove ads from certain videos.

It also doesn't ban hate speech much if at all.

Google doesn't give a fuck, and it's allowing these racists to reach a larger audience.
 
I don't even understand what Scoops is trying to say there, and I don't get a real strong sense that Scoops has the firmest grasp on his own message, either.

I mean, if someone is blatantly racist, or sexist, or transphobic, or homophobic, or bigoted in in a very easy to percieve manner, and your reaction to the community's response is focused more on pushing a narrative that suggests the real victims in this are moderate, even-keelish, careful folk who are being unfairly "shouted down" by virtue signalling SJWs circle jerking for the sake of empty plaudits from pseudonym'd (bad) actors...

...if that's the angle that jumps out at you, if that's the angle you choose to pursue, I would suggest that maybe the priorites being misaligned are not the ones you're attempting to correct with your dose of "rational, clear headed" unasked-for advice on how "best" to discuss hate speech.

If you're going to be upset that people give a fuck about racists in their community, and give enough of a fuck to publicly condemn them, and you still think playing Devil's Advocate on behalf of whatever cowed strawmen got sent packing for playing the same game you're playing is the most important thing to do with your time? I dunno man. White supremacists have the white house. The Devil doesn't really need any more advocates, and the gaming community doesn't need any more people making any more excuses for its worst members.

Of all the windmills to tilt at...
 
https://twitter.com/Boogie2988/status/907117296786833408

"So there's today's wishy washy fence setting for you. Feel free to unleash the butthurt. I look forward to the neogaf thread."

Lol

Honestly this comes across as worse. It's one thing to spout racist shit because you are a racist shit. This dude is trying to sweep it under the rug and trying to frame it as a legitimate thing normal well-adjusted people do. Fuck him, there is no conversation with racism, it's wrong and should only be treated as such.
 
He has no idea the magnitude of his position on the site and how much he's protected. His actions are fucking over everyone on youtube.
 
Only going to quote two pages worth of responses to my post because I have limited time but my post was specifically addressing "progressive strongholds on the internet for the 2016 US election," as was said in the post I quoted and which I further bolded to make sure it was clear. It was not the incident this thread is about, an event I find terrible by the way. My post isn't "defending racial slurs" because I wasn't even referring to the topic of this thread if you actually look at what I quoted.

The fact that so many people jumped on me for that only further proves my point that Neogaf is a hostile place to anyone with even normal center right views or anyone who isn't a "progressive" really, and this place is nothing more then an echo chamber when it comes to just about any political discussion and is a bit detached from the real world to be honest. That's why I generally stay out of off-topic, but this thread was in gaming discussion...

If what you all are saying is "non-progressism = racism" then we have nothing further to talk about because frankly there's no point in engaging with someone with that viewpoint.

Anyway, I'm not really interested in taking the thread any more off topic, but so many people quoted me with nonsense or stuff inapplicable to what I even said calling me all sorts of names I felt like I had to respond.

So you think that by staying out of off-topic and only staying on the gaming side of the forum you can shelter yourself from discussions relating to sociopolitical issues such as racism, sexism and bigotry?

That's cute.
 
I doubt hes racist, but he definitely siding with those who supported his insensitive jew jokes. he prolly feels like one the them now. mischaracterized etc. ur a fool PDP. I liked him but he lost focus. o wells.
 
we just need to learn a little bit from people who casually say racial slurs and maybe they'll learn a little from us!

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I doubt hes racist, but he definitely siding with those who supported his insensitive jew jokes. he prolly feels like one the them now. mischaracterized etc. ur a fool PDP. I liked him but he lost focus. o wells.

No. When you lack control of your own words and out comes "Fucking Nigger", you're a goddamn racist. That's what's inside. Correcting that to "Fucking Asshole" once you've regained your composure tells us all exactly what your meaning was with the initial term.
 
Well it's time for youtube, twitch and all these places to take responsibility for what their creators use their services for. Close channels, delete videos, withdraw support.

Take a god damned stand you cowards.

There needs to be some precedence set for this kind of thing. Somebody - anybody - needs to step in and say, "no."

We're at a point where all this social media is still kind of new, but at the same time it's been well-established enough that there needs to be some sort of gauntlet getting thrown down.
 
Only going to quote two pages worth of responses to my post because I have limited time but my post was specifically addressing "progressive strongholds on the internet for the 2016 US election," as was said in the post I quoted and which I further bolded to make sure it was clear. It was not the incident this thread is about, an event I find terrible by the way. My post isn't "defending racial slurs" because I wasn't even referring to the topic of this thread if you actually look at what I quoted.

The fact that so many people jumped on me for that only further proves my point that Neogaf is a hostile place to anyone with even normal center right views or anyone who isn't a "progressive" really, and this place is nothing more then an echo chamber when it comes to just about any political discussion and is a bit detached from the real world to be honest. That's why I generally stay out of off-topic, but this thread was in gaming discussion...

If what you all are saying is "non-progressism = racism" then we have nothing further to talk about because frankly there's no point in engaging with someone with that viewpoint.

Anyway, I'm not really interested in taking the thread any more off topic, but so many people quoted me with nonsense or stuff inapplicable to what I even said calling me all sorts of names I felt like I had to respond.
Defending the use of the n-word sure is a helluva hill to die on
 
He has no idea the magnitude of his position on the site and how much he's protected. His actions are fucking over everyone on youtube.

I think someone said he doesn't care if he ruins it for everyone else because he has a safety net with his Dad being the CEO of a major company in Sweden...buut I have no idea if that's true.

His actions certainly don't seem to be that of someone wanting to help their fellow YouTubers
 
https://twitter.com/Boogie2988/status/907117296786833408

"So there's today's wishy washy fence setting for you. Feel free to unleash the butthurt. I look forward to the neogaf thread."

Lol

This is the end of the entire twitter thread of his "statement" on the N Word issue.

"Us YTbers are good people, the N Word is bad, I dont want to lose my Ad Revenue because sometimes we say stupid shit, but I mean we all say bad stuff sometimes, give him a break. Oh god this could affect my income, what the fuck did you do felix. Please feel sorry for meeeeeeeeeee"
 
I doubt hes racist, but he definitely siding with those who supported his insensitive jew jokes. he prolly feels like one the them now. mischaracterized etc. ur a fool PDP. I liked him but he lost focus. o wells.

Ok someone please help me understand. Someone.

Based on everything that has gone on, how can you "doubt he's racist"?

How?
 
The only thing you need to know about Boogie is that the only time he doesn't fence sit is when it involves fat shaming which should tell you all you need to know about his "kindness".
Boogie comes off as incredibly self centered. I can't watch his videos because he is insufferable at this point. Not to mention the main reason I don't watch his videos anymore -
for being a piece of shit that is constantly going out of his way to defend the sexists/racists/bigots of the internet. You are not sitting on the center of the fence. You are just an asshole.
At least he didn't type (((NeoGAF))).
(((SOROS))))
 
https://twitter.com/Boogie2988/status/907117296786833408

"So there's today's wishy washy fence setting for you. Feel free to unleash the butthurt. I look forward to the neogaf thread."

Lol

Butthurt? I would think sitting on a fence all day would be a real pain in the butt.

And.

https://twitter.com/Boogie2988/status/907114009203273728
I grew up on shock humor and loved it as a teen/young adult. But I outgrew it. I look forward to my fellow youtubers doing the same.

PDP is 27!
 
I doubt hes racist, but he definitely siding with those who supported his insensitive jew jokes. he prolly feels like one the them now. mischaracterized etc. ur a fool PDP. I liked him but he lost focus. o wells.

I agree, he used to be an innocent, sincere, happy, funny guy, I used to love his content (back in 2013/2014), what a fucking shame. He is no longer the same Pewds I know.

Also, I disagree with the racist part, I think he is a bit racist now.

In fact, I think he is getting more and more racist each year.
 
So when Boogie says
but if we're now deciding who can play a game on youtube based on their personal politics, shit's gotten scary as hell
what does that even mean

Saying the n word randomly while playing a video game has nothing to do with "personal politics". God I hate this idea that consequences for racist bullshit = political persecution
 
PDP is 27!

Hey man, PDP is just a kid.

Trayvon Martin, though...he looked old for his age.

So when Boogie says "but if we're now deciding who can play a game on youtube based on their personal politics, shit's gotten scary as hell".... what does that even mean

Saying the n word randomly while playing a video game has nothing to do with "personal politics". God I hate this idea that consequences for racist bullshit = political persecution

No, what you're hearing is that any blowback to any shitty language is deemed as "political", which has become a fucking negative thing to talk about, and what a fucking shame for that, as though all language isn't political.
 
Boogie is a two faced hypocrite cunt.

He wasn't sat on his high horse when that fat shaming video from that bitch came out. Yet he wants to sweep this under the carpet because it's his mate.
 
If you're reading this right now Boogie, I'm severely disappointed in you. I actually thought you were a swell guy after you helped out that other YouTuber (not PDP), but this and the other previous screw ups really threw my opinion of you in the gutter.

So much for being in the middle.
 
No way, never could have seen this coming. Fuck all the people trying to normalise this as one of those things that "just happens", it really fucking doesn't. This word doesn't just "slip out", if it does it's because it's already in your vocabulary and you fucking use it... because you're a racist.

And fuck Boogie as well, if I call him a fat cunt (I wouldn't, obviously) on twitter something tells me he'll have a completely different reaction.
 
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