Probably where he picked up saying it so casually like that. Product of a generation of kids that used expletives like that on xbox live growing up without being lectured about its negative aspects.
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PewDiePie "What a f***ing n*****." out of frustration when his teammate dies.
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Probably where he picked up saying it so casually like that. Product of a generation of kids that used expletives like that on xbox live growing up without being lectured about its negative aspects.
The Broken Ska Record
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Yup, a generation of kids trying to be edgey without understanding consequences.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
No.
Sniper McBlaze
Member
Why are people so quick to say that he should get deleted? Wouldn't it be better if he made a public apology video and talking about how it was wrong? It would make more of an impact on his fan base since most of them are still in their diapers.
People are quick to judge. Let's hope he understands why what he did is a problem and let him try to learn something. Educate instead of punishing.
People are quick to judge. Let's hope he understands why what he did is a problem and let him try to learn something. Educate instead of punishing.
Finale Fireworker
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It's because this is like the third time something like this has happened.
The Broken Ska Record
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Because it's a recurring theme with PDP. He's made anti-semetic remarks before. And it seem like he doesn't care to learn from the situtation.
GuessMyUserName
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This isn't a first for him. At all. He doesn't care, as far a as PDP is concerned the problem is us for taking issue with "a word".
Sniper McBlaze
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Oh. Fuck him then.
Here's the PewDiePie timeline as I understand it.
- Five years ago: PewDiePie starts to become popular by posting videos full of rape jokes. He acknowledges that it was wrong, apologies, and stops making the jokes.
- PewDiePie becomes rich and famous. He sets the standard that everyone rips off of.
- Now: PewDiePie makes a bunch of Nazi and anti-Semitic jokes. The media calls him on it, Disney fires him. He gives a non-apology and rails against the media. His online flunkies defend his behaviour.
- PewDiePie defend a politician who says that women are less intelligent than men. His online flunkies defend his behaviour.
- The Charlottesville riots happen. PewDiePie says he's going to stop doing Nazi jokes become somehow this dude who is born in Europe and lives in Western Europe only now realized that Nazis were a real thing. He still jokes about Charlottesville on Twitter at around this time though.
- PewDiePie uses an ethnic slur in a livestream. His online flunkies are still in the process of defending him.
- PewDiePie becomes rich and famous. He sets the standard that everyone rips off of.
- Now: PewDiePie makes a bunch of Nazi and anti-Semitic jokes. The media calls him on it, Disney fires him. He gives a non-apology and rails against the media. His online flunkies defend his behaviour.
- PewDiePie defend a politician who says that women are less intelligent than men. His online flunkies defend his behaviour.
- The Charlottesville riots happen. PewDiePie says he's going to stop doing Nazi jokes become somehow this dude who is born in Europe and lives in Western Europe only now realized that Nazis were a real thing. He still jokes about Charlottesville on Twitter at around this time though.
- PewDiePie uses an ethnic slur in a livestream. His online flunkies are still in the process of defending him.
His online flunkies may have defended him on the rape jokes too, I just wasn't anywhere where I could see the backlash.
Sniper McBlaze
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He sounds more like a man-baby with money than really racist. He is ignorant and it's sad that so many young people idolize him.
So what qualifies as 'really' racist then? The dude is a piece of shit.
I don't think those things are all that different. I don't think he's a KKK member, but it's pretty obvious that he doesn't care about what happens to anyone other than himself, which includes women and minorities, and has no problem kicking them around for his amusement.
Maybe he's a racist man-baby with money?
Sniper McBlaze
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I guess ignorance is racist when I think about it. I just don't think he hates black people and he says it because he has been a part of the sewer of shit online gaming can be. That would explain the rape jokes and anti-semetic jokes too. Most people grow out of saying shit like that and actually think about the impact it can make on others. Being worshipped by kids seems to change that though.
Mattlikewhoa
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It looks like the news has hit Complex as well:
Complex News - PewDiePies Back On His Racist Sh*t Again
Complex News - PewDiePies Back On His Racist Sh*t Again
What would he have to do to be considered a racist?
I get that he is popular with kids, but that doesn't excuse shit. Fuck thinking that he just uses the language because of 'online gaming' that is a cop-out.
Sniper McBlaze
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I didn't say that he should be excused for it. I just think he has been able to do this kind of shit because his audience is so immature. I don't think AVGN would get away with this for example.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
You don't need to actively hate to be prejudice.
Sniper McBlaze
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That's true. I need to rethink my definition of being racist.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Loads of racists don't think they are racist because they stop (short) of/at actually killing people. Like, they understand racism is bad, they just don't think they are racist because "it's just fact that X are inferior, but there are limits".
The infamous JonTron interview is a prime example of this concept. When literally confronted by the host with "what is your solution? Killing black people?", Jafari's response was "holy shit, you want to kill black people?".
Sniper McBlaze
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Kind of like how it is with substance abuse. People don't see you as a "real" addict if you don't live on the street and lost your front teeth.
No. You can say many other horrible words, curse words or other racist/sexist slang terms, but the n-word is always the worst. By a healthy margin for me, at least an an American.
Hearing the N-word with the hard r makes me stop in my tracks. No other word does that to me.
Trickster
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All them downvotes though, pewdiepie fanboys in full defense mode lol
Yeah, they're going around to all videos and tweet's that rightfully call PDP on his shit and whining at/downvoting them. Double Toasted's video on this has a bunch of downvotes and comments from people who clearly aren't normal viewers.
It's so damn pathetic.
Not surprising, it's clockwork just like any video or person on twitter that is remotely critical of anything videogame related. And people wonder why the gaming community is so looked down on and considered toxic - they can't even say "this is bad this needs to stop" when it's right in front of their face whether it's misogyny, racism, bigotry or just a constant stream of angst and anger that most people left on playgrounds. It's simple - address the issues and do something. But they'll just carry on with slurs and rape jokes.
Shit, those are the same that want to have videogames considered "art" and in the same breath as literature and film. Grow the fuck up, have a conversation and then we'll talk about the artistic relevance of videogames, until then it's just a hobby and toy and there's no better proof of that when the post popular gaming channel utters "n*****" like it's no big deal just like every single gamer I've played against online throws out every insult there is. They never will, though - gamers are stuck behind their walls and always want to be angry 14 years old even when they're 40.
Angelus Errare
Banned
Twitter is wild over it, so many folks exposing themselves with the "Who doesn't say it when they're upset" type argument.
People can do whatever the fuck they want. They just need to not act confused when they get blowback.
FinaruDensetsu
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I mean... a lot of people just never say anything like that at all no matter what their age.
In case anyone is still in denial I think we can say that Pewdiepie is racist and doesn't give a fuck.
https://twitter.com/alexa40521206/status/907361732363997184
https://twitter.com/alexa40521206/status/907361732363997184
FinaruDensetsu
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At least he's not going to hide it and be a coward now I guess.
The Jazz Cabbage Master
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Ah yes, I too become racist when I am frustrated, don't all of you?????
jellies_two
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Ok I guess he is daring his paymasters to grow a spine.
Dude has totally given up even trying to look like he isn't a steaming pile of shit, and people are defending him anyway.
After the Nazi jokes thing? Flipped of the camera, and started making jokes like "these Charlottesville rioters must have seen too many PewDiePie videos", and "Neo-Nazis please stop looking like me". Now he's getting flack for saying the N-word, and he deliberately tries saying things that are close to it just to show that he can get away with it.
The people who defend PewDiePie are also indefensible. He isn't willing to put up the work not seem like a spoiled racist shitstain of a human, but they're going to throw themselves on the floor for him to walk on instead.
Sniper McBlaze
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Sure, but alot of people do too. I used racist and sexist slurs when I was younger trying to be edgy, but I wouldn't call myself a racist.
This type of mincing words only serves people who want to continue to use racial slurs, make racists jokes, etc. while proclaiming themselves not racists.
Makes way more sense just to consider it racism.
You were a racist them in my opinion. A racist is someone who will do racist things; telling racist jokes and using racial slurs... is racist.
Nice Freudian slip lol; I assume you meant :"wouldn't call myself a racist."
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Dude is trying to learn. Give them credit.
evil solrac v3.0
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a very specific thing to yell out. methinks he sees brown as beneath him, well fuck him then.
ClosingADoor
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Is this a new one or from an earlier stream?
And what the hell. He knows exactly what he is doing and saying. Disgusting. They should ban his ass.
I'm not in any way flaming them or anything; just found that kind of funny.
Sniper McBlaze
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Lol, yeah. It wasn't a freudian slip, but a slip nonetheless. Sure I was racist, I'll give you that, but people mature and get more experience. Sadly, Pewdiepie seem to be immune to that, det stjärthålet.
Edit: I just want to add that was a teenager when I used those slurs. I don't know if I can say I was a racist, but I was immature and used racist slurs. Where does the line go? Are young children racist of they mimic other people?
I believe it's from an earlier stream.
I posted it to show that this wasn't just a one off slip of the tongue thing that some people try to use to justify it.
Chmpocalypse
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Pull the plug, YouTube. You don't need a racist asshole as your most vaunted 'star'.
Definitely; I've known a few people like that. I was the type to call out racism as a teen in high school, and actually had more than 1 person come up to me years later to thank me for calling them out. Was only a few years later too; amazing what a few years can do to someone's maturity (or not, in some cases.)
Despite what some may say, getting dropped by Disney and the reaction to his Nazi video was a big event for him. When that happens, people generally either reevaluate to think if they did something wrong or double down out of frustration and anger. PDP seems to have chosen the latter.
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