You sure? Haven't seen it but based on the advertising and everything it seems like that's what they're going for
Mother (Darren Aronofsky) - early reviews from Venice
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You sure? Haven't seen it but based on the advertising and everything it seems like that's what they're going for
PhoncipleBone
Banned
They may be advertising it with similar imagery, and there are a few thematic similarities, but it ends there.
Lights and Waves
Member
This currently has an F cinemascore, 44% of audiences liked it on RT, and it looks like it lost its fresh certification. I told y'all people would be pissed at the miseleading marketing.
More_Badass
Member
The marketing and advertising made people think a lot of things about this movie.
That's a shame because it's a really well made movie and it's actually does a good job at what it sets out to do.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
I think of it as Aronofsky turning his crazy shit to 11, then mixing in David Lynch turned to 11.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
Yes.
Messofanego
Banned
Definitely more towards Polanski's Repulsion than Rosemary's Baby. The only connection with RB is there's a couple and it's set in a house.
I wonder if that's due to a decision by the director or a decision by the execs. Crimson Peak had a similar situation where it's advertised as horror when it's more of a suspense thriller that just happens to have ghosts.
Shock value for the sake of art is difficult to push for an audience just looking to be entertained. It's probably an issue similar to jump scares. I can shock you by ambushing you with that scene from Human Centipede 2 where the lady crushes that baby under the gas pedal of a car just like I can jumpscare you by sneaking up behind you and turning on a blender. Unless you were specifically looking for either experience, that aspect won't improve the quality of the film unless it makes sense for the rest of the plot outside of shock factor or symbolism, or you'll just have a confused WTF face. That's the only reason I can think of that audiences might not like this. It's also why I skipped Neon Demon but saw Starry Eyes even though Neon Demon is probably better made from a production standpoint.
Alexander DeLarge
Member
I don't know how you could even market it without the horror angle.
Moff
Member
no, and neither at the beginning.
Shit I thought it was some home invasion movie, too (The Strangers). Reading these spoilers turned me off even more than the misleading marketing.
Messofanego
Banned
Anyone know the music from the trailer? Was a bit disappointed it wasn't in the film (there's very little music anyway), definitely made for one of the best film trailers of the year.
Yes.
Its surrealism. I was constantly unnerved, but it isnt a horror movie, it just uses some elements and tropes.
That said I think this movie can fuck with people hard.
Turbo Killer
Member
There's like a million of those movies, and only one like this one. Just watch it
djplaeskool
Member
Hoo boy. That was a lot to take in. A LOT.
Gimme a bit.
Gimme a bit.
VistraNorrez
Member
But what about The Tenant?
old manatee
Banned
I got way too high for that.
I just saw the film, really enjoyed it. Beautiful movie, very original and intense. Also, it's not Rosemary's Baby.
Definitely not a film most people are going to like, very divisive.
Some choice quotes I overheard from the people exiting the theater with me:
"That was about the stupidest fucking thing I've ever seen." - Middle-aged man standing up in front of me right as lights went up
"Well, was it stupid or what? I wish I'd never come, what a waste of money!" - Older lady descending stairs behind me
"We just saw the worst movie" - Old lady on phone outside theater who sat 3 seats over from me and who's phone kept going off and kept slowly texting replies during the movie
The general mood I sensed from the audience while leaving was one of confusion and anger. So you know it's good.
Definitely not a film most people are going to like, very divisive.
Some choice quotes I overheard from the people exiting the theater with me:
"That was about the stupidest fucking thing I've ever seen." - Middle-aged man standing up in front of me right as lights went up
"Well, was it stupid or what? I wish I'd never come, what a waste of money!" - Older lady descending stairs behind me
"We just saw the worst movie" - Old lady on phone outside theater who sat 3 seats over from me and who's phone kept going off and kept slowly texting replies during the movie
The general mood I sensed from the audience while leaving was one of confusion and anger. So you know it's good.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
And shit wasn't even crazy yet.
It's understandable, I was bored throughout. It's funny reading people's ideas and theories is actually more enjoyable than the film itself.
More_Badass
Member
I don't think it's that confusing if you have context. I might actually go see it a second time because it'll probably be a very different experience not trying to puzzle things togetherness while watching
That's a better reason to spend your money than some safe, by-the-numbers fluff.
I think it's a movie worth seeing, I just think a lot of people will not like it.
I think the main reason people won't like it is that it is obtuse and demands to be deconstructed. It's like the movie is leading you towards the center of a maze and then it ends and you're left to figure your own way out of it afterwards.
I also don't think the movie has a literal interpretation and people hate that. I don't think you're supposed to make sense of the story so much as try to understand what it is trying to say, or what it says to you.
Given his history I wouldn't be surprised if there were more similarities than that but I'll trust your word. Haven't seen it myself so can't say.
There are thematic similarities bit that's honestly about it.
BlueTsunami
there is joy in sucking dick
People were walking out of my showing bewildered. I laughed to myself. What an experience. Didnt quite care for the pacing in parts but the whole was worth the experience for me.
It's not even remotely similar to Rosemary's Baby. Unless you consider
a woman wanting a baby
andythinkpad
Member
This movie lost me very fucking fast. As soon as JLaw let a complete stranger woman whom she didnt know the name of talk yo her about sex life in front of the laundry machine, I said to myself this movie is complete bullshit.
None of these of people behave like English speaking Americans.
None of these of people behave like English speaking Americans.
More_Badass
Member
Nvm
Nice spoilers......
andythinkpad
Member
Trust me its impossible to spoil this movie hehe.
I really enjoyed this film. However, full disclosure I read the spoiler thread only enough to get the gist of the movie (I was on the fence about watching it because it sounded kind of boring so I wanted to go in knowing a bit about it.) and I'm actually glad I did because it made the movie way more enjoyable for me. Also once you get it, the movie really feels way on the nose with what it's doing, not like some art house movie where you can't tell what's going on or everything is up for interpretation. Also people in my theater hated this movie, every person complained including a 12 year old kid(not the target audience) who told his mother to never take him to the movies again. Me however, I think it is perhaps my favorite movie of the year so far. That said I don't feel the need to watch it again, it was a great experience but it did what it set out to do. I would recommend those who didn't get it to maybe give it another shot once you learn about what's really going on, I think for most people going in blind is a terrible idea, especially general audiences, I'm very surprised this was given a wide release.
BlueTsunami
there is joy in sucking dick
I'm laughing so hard right now oh my god
So, just came back with friends.
They all hated it except for me, calling it:
-- Overwrought yet simultaneously empty
-- Lacking a message
-- Needless allegory
-- Bad allegory because it's not a 1:1 comparison with the subject matter
-- Pretentious
: among other things. I was the lone holdout in a sea of complaints.
I think my cred is shot with them. Now I'm gonna have to watch some fucking cheap horror schlock like Jigsaw as retribution, because they're going to hang "mother!" over my head forever.
Thanks GAF. xP
They all hated it except for me, calling it:
-- Overwrought yet simultaneously empty
-- Lacking a message
-- Needless allegory
-- Bad allegory because it's not a 1:1 comparison with the subject matter
-- Pretentious
: among other things. I was the lone holdout in a sea of complaints.
I think my cred is shot with them. Now I'm gonna have to watch some fucking cheap horror schlock like Jigsaw as retribution, because they're going to hang "mother!" over my head forever.
Thanks GAF. xP
More_Badass
Member
Kingsman comes out on Friday
djplaeskool
Member
Well, we all want to see Kingsman. I was the one most willing to give mother a chance even with the less than stellar critical consensus and shit audience consensus. So now, when something comes out that I don't want to see because it's obviously terrible, they're all gonna be like "You can't back out because we suffered through mother" and now I'm gonna have to do it.
Friends. How many of us have them?
BlueTsunami
there is joy in sucking dick
Anyone who hates The Fountain or mocks your love for it are unworthy of your impeccable taste.