Sounds like something that douchebag would do.
Mass shooting at the Mandalay Bay Las Vegas; 58 dead, 500+ injured.
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Sounds like something that douchebag would do.
Because it's easy.
The Greek Freak
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Obama was so good for gun makers/the NRA that they should have tried to secretly fund his re-election campaign.
Instead of staying away from twitter, reconsider who you follow.
I think the issue is that an official statement was released saying that it wasn't a terrorist attack. Well, for all the reasons you state above, how can we/they possibly know it wasn't!?
Poor GRIMES
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Well yes, I would think it would be a relatively easy concept to grasp that the media treats assailants differently based on the color of their skin. It's well documented.
efyu_lemonardo
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What does "left wing gunman" even mean?
That he was out to massacre right wingers for being less liberal?
Circle Jerk
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That's just a straight up lie. Emmanuel Sanders had multiple articles written about him with personal accounts, and the generic "I never thought he could do this" quotes.
Golden_Pigeon
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Because it's a race issue every time the shooter isn't white. Nobody would be questioning his sanity if his name would be Ahmad. I remember the Sydney incident, when a madman with shiite background was linked to ISIS in every media.
So yeah, it's hard to not speech about race.
Poor GRIMES
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Or rather, reflect on why you're on a platform that doesn't take their userbase seriously
Temeculan3000
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That's my point. You can attempt to simulate full auto with the original gun. A law would probably have to be less vague than "attempt to simulate full auto". And of course the creators of these mods will try to argue that this isn't the purpose of their mod. Saying bump stocks are for people with disabilities for example.
DasPenguin
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Gotta get those numbers down man! Ignore gang shootings and shooting with less than 4 people and we barely have one mass murder a month! /s
NullPointer
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What statement?
It's the only way they can win. Fake news. I don't know how to solve it.
Messofanego
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His motives are irrelevant. He killed dozens of people. Why are we running puff pieces on him from his friends?
Link to said statement?
I've only heard that they haven't found any connection to terrorism so far. That's not a definitive statement
NullPointer
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Because people do want to know his motivation and the news media is going to present whatever they can find. This is always the case.
Joel Was Right
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He was all into the secret government and Illuminati stuff a decade ago. When did he make this shift into conservative politics?
holygeesus
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I read an interesting stat on the Guardian that 70% of gun deaths in America come courtesy of handguns, and less than 4% from rifles, so any attempt at gun control would have to take that dynamic into account. Sure, make it harder for people to get hold of handguns, but to make any serious dent in the numbers, the only way is with a blanket ban, which will never happen.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/21/gun-control-debate-mass-shootings-gun-violence
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/21/gun-control-debate-mass-shootings-gun-violence
esmith08734
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How do you think Obama or Trump wrapped/wrap their heads around these things when they find out about them? I know, I know, Trump sucks, but as the Commander in Chief, what is circling through your mind?
It's almost as if there's forces at work aiming to turn Americans against each other and destabilize society.
I think this s getting off topic and maybe requires its own thread but I feel you are correct. The press out of its way to dig up dirt on POC and it try's to humanize white people. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/14/media-black-victims_n_5673291.html
Presumably to engage an audience, serve advertisements, and generate revenue.
Puff pieces? The point of those interviews seem to be pretty clearly about how no one saw it coming, not to somehow make the shooter look sympathetic.
While I'm sure there are legitimate boneheads propagating this shit, I'm certain that some large portion of those retweets come from Russians bots and /r/TheDonald clowns.
efyu_lemonardo
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He probably doesn't give a shit.
"I sure wish I could be golfing."
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I dunno that tangent into something about curing cancer sure reads a little bit unhinged.
What part of "He's a gambler and he's trusting" gives insight into his motivation though?
No doubt about that.
Circle Jerk
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The idea that it's not a race issue when white men commit shooting crimes is just completly dishonest. It's been a few hours, and here are two articles specifically dealing with race and white shooters. More will come. If you honestly don't think race is brought up when white's commit shootings, you are either admitting you don't actually read the news, or are just ignoring the articles that do exist.
Temeculan3000
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If he had shot up a concert of mostly black concert-goers of course people would be linking him to white supremacist groups, and no one would feel bad about such speculation.
I agree with your point though. Brown people get linked with ISIS, white people get the benefit of the doubt.
Gun control isn't hard.
I the US the average american is more concerned about "ma rights" than having any level of reasonable security to prevent mass murders.
For starters, Facebook, Twitter and Google need to pull their head out of their collective asses and start addressing it.
DaytimeWhiskey
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Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
This motherfucker needs to keep his mouth shut.
Latvian Hitman
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I'm frankly a little disappointed that nobody has drawn a connection to flag-burning Michael Bennett yet. I mean, he was in Vegas a few weeks back. Connection seems obvious. This is all Pete Carol's doing.
FIREKNIGHT2029
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The dude is a terrorist, simple as that. I dont care what his motives are, you dont need a real motive to be labeled a terrorist. If he was anything but white hed be labeled a terrorist ages ago.
I imagine when he discovered he could make a lot more money that way.
perfectchaos007
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I'm sure we'll know more about his motives soon, but within 24 hours of an attack almost all info on motivations are bogus pushed by agenda serving individuals.
I think the bigger issue is that people who support the NRA aren't willing to hold them accountable or aren't familiar with what the NRA is doing. They just pay their monthly fee and forget about it. So while people may say they support sensible gun laws, they support the NRA anyway, which opposes basically any new law. That's one of many reasons why I don't support the NRA, even as a gun owner. Their new president, Brownell, is a real piece of shit as well.
Johnny Cage In The Shower
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Huh!? They are reporting what they know so far! He was basically a typical white American that gambled, owned two boats, had no priors...They are also reporting that ISis is trying to claim that he converted to islam recently, but mostly a hoax...
What else do you want to hear from them? What did they miss?
So if this was a PoC, and also had no priors, are you saying media would lie and say he had priors? What are you guys getting at?
They are reporting what they know so far, and they just learned that he was a son of a FBI 10 most wanted criminal from the 60's, who was diagnosed as a psychopath and had suicidal tendencies ... How is this new revelation connected with Whitewashing? Please entertain me some more with your hysteria!
Why?
His motives aren't irrelevant to trying to discover what would cause someone to do this and potentially stop the next time.
I do agree though, that it just seems like in these situations color does absolutely change the discussion.
White people = oh no poor guy he went crazy
POC = these animals, we should have known!
Bits N Pieces
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Brutal but true.
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