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[WarMacheen]

Source?

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Report-of-Shooting-at-USC-449104773.html

 

[Inuhanyou]

https://twitter.com/thedesirina/status/914911683742699521

Boom.

OMG not again!

https://twitter.com/CBSLA/status/914935288186667008

Statistically, its sounds about right. A gun related incident will occur every hour of every day in America.

 

[BlazingDarkness]

https://twitter.com/thedesirina/status/914911683742699521

What the fuck am I reading.

 

[Username1198]

OMG not again!



https://twitter.com/CBSLA/status/914935288186667008

Wtfffff

 

[rudger]

How come the worst mass shooting in US history isn't time for a discussion on gun violence and gun control?

It's the perfect fucking time.

You’re answering your own question. Don’t have the conversation when you know you’re most likely to lose.

 

[foxuzamaki]

Was at work all day and could hardly follow the news, this is so horrible. You'd think a tragedy of this magnitude would put the gun laws back under discussion but I guess that's too much to hope for. Once again nothing will change I guess.

Im pretty sure they are back under discussion, but the republicans try to shut down the discussion, thats par for the course.

 

[Glass Shark]

Is Scott Adams a milkshake duck or is this a one off thing?!?!

Scott Adams has been a shithead for a long time.

 

[efyu_lemonardo]

Thread is up!

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1441820

Let me know if there's anything you'd like to add.

And give it a bump if it drops too low!

 

[plagiarize]

Can anyone link me to the article about fake info going around?

My friend just sent me this post and I want to link him to something before I fucking punch him in the face

"The shooter, Stephen Craig Paddock, 64.. a white liberal Democrat, hated President Trump and spoke openly about his political views. They are as follows:

Political Views per his Facebook page:
-Proud to Be a Democrat
-The Rachel Maddow Show
-Thank You Obama
-Anti-Trump Army
-Progressive Day,
Organizing for Action (Soros)
-Not My President
-Fight Trump
-Boycott All Things Trump
-Impeach Trump

I am sharing, because the media won't."

I don't care what his politics are. That some people do is kind of upsetting. Whatever his politics he thought it was okay to kill 60 or so people and injure hundreds. If he's left wing or right wing, seems kind of secondary, you know?

 

[Auraela]

was posted earlier in thread that he had done stupid bets on gambling prior to this event, even if you take that as him doing this, da fuck do you get this many weapons from and in such a short time without flagging up somehow

 

[maladroit]

You do realize that the overwhelming majority of guns walking across the board come *from* the US, right?

Our robust manufacturing is the source of most illegal guns across the entire content. Cracking down here would benefit everyone around us, particularly northern Mexico.

I'm glad we agree

 

[kmax]

The fact that it's easier to obtain a gun than to see a doctor speaks volumes.

 

[Joeytj]

Can anyone link me to the article about fake info going around?

My friend just sent me this post and I want to link him to something before I fucking punch him in the face

"The shooter, Stephen Craig Paddock, 64.. a white liberal Democrat, hated President Trump and spoke openly about his political views. They are as follows:

Political Views per his Facebook page:
-Proud to Be a Democrat
-The Rachel Maddow Show
-Thank You Obama
-Anti-Trump Army
-Progressive Day,
Organizing for Action (Soros)
-Not My President
-Fight Trump
-Boycott All Things Trump
-Impeach Trump

I am sharing, because the media won't."

No, there hasn't been any confirmation about what the guy believed or his motives are. Not that they matter. Civilians like him should not have that type of access to a fire arms.

 

[Randolph Freelander]

My sister swears that there were more shootings in Vegas last night, including at a CVS and people being shot in their cars but I can't find anything.

That's statistically likely just for Las Vegas' normal crime rates.

 

[Audioboxer]

Good news

Absolute idiot

 

[Mahonay]

Thread is up!

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1441820

Let me know if there's anything you'd like to add.

And give it a bump if it drops too low!

Good on you for making that happen.

 

[5taquitos]

Can anyone link me to the article about fake info going around?

My friend just sent me this post and I want to link him to something before I fucking punch him in the face

"The shooter, Stephen Craig Paddock, 64.. a white liberal Democrat, hated President Trump and spoke openly about his political views. They are as follows:

Political Views per his Facebook page:
-Proud to Be a Democrat
-The Rachel Maddow Show
-Thank You Obama
-Anti-Trump Army
-Progressive Day,
Organizing for Action (Soros)
-Not My President
-Fight Trump
-Boycott All Things Trump
-Impeach Trump

I am sharing, because the media won't."

Those are word-for-word narrative control points from /pol/

 

[mario_O]

https://twitter.com/thedesirina/status/914911683742699521

Can't stop clapping.

 

[Gattsu25]

Can anyone link me to the article about fake info going around?

My friend just sent me this post and I want to link him to something before I fucking punch him in the face

"The shooter, Stephen Craig Paddock, 64.. a white liberal Democrat, hated President Trump and spoke openly about his political views. They are as follows:

Political Views per his Facebook page:
-Proud to Be a Democrat
-The Rachel Maddow Show
-Thank You Obama
-Anti-Trump Army
-Progressive Day,
Organizing for Action (Soros)
-Not My President
-Fight Trump
-Boycott All Things Trump
-Impeach Trump

I am sharing, because the media won't."

https://twitter.com/broderick/status/914801273584709632

 

[djplaeskool]

OMG not again!



https://twitter.com/CBSLA/status/914935288186667008

Gun violence is going to be amplified for a while, but this frequency is sadly normal.
It's so prevalent in America that it will simply become background noise again.

 

[Finale Fireworker]

To be clear, we have no information one way or another about the motivation or the beliefs of the shooter, correct?

 

[Jeremy]

I don't care what his politics are. That some people do is kind of upsetting. Whatever his politics he thought it was okay to kill 60 or so people and injure hundreds. If he's left wing or right wing, seems kind of secondary, you know?

No, there hasn't been any confirmation about what the guy believed or his motives.

Yeah, I guess that's a fair point. It's so weird to see how effective their propaganda machine is, especially when you can't counter with "that's not true!" because you don't have the actual proof for something that required none for the person to believe it in the first place. Oh well, the faster that message is pushed out on the masses with no factual counterclaims, the more damage it does but if the general response is "oh well, it doesn't really matter, he killed people" I kind of feel the same way.

 

[Steel]

To be clear, we have no information one way or another about the motivation or the beliefs of the shooter, correct?

Yep. His own brother has no idea what the fuck happened and he was close to him.

 

[kmax]

To be clear, we have no information one way or another about the motivation or the beliefs of the shooter, correct?

correct.

 

[5taquitos]

To be clear, we have no information one way or another about the motivation or the beliefs of the shooter, correct?

Nothing but speculation. I'd say it's very possible no motive is ever discovered.

 

[Glass Shark]

To be clear, we have no information one way or another about the motivation or the beliefs of the shooter, correct?

No, nothing yet. Do NOT believe anything you read about it right now, because there’s a ton of misinformation flying around from all sides. I would not believe anything about his motive until the Vegas PD or Sheriff put out a statement about it.

 

[CampbellzSoup]

Good news

Absolute idiot

Why would she say something like that???

 

[lenovox1]

My sister swears that there were more shootings in Vegas last night, including at a CVS and people being shot in their cars but I can't find anything.

There wasn't a mass coordinated attack across the Valley, no. People may have been shot in their cars near the scene because the assailant was aimlessly shooting at an open field.

 

[Z3M0G]

Just learned that someone from my town in Alberta is now missing in Vegas. Her husband is at the Red Cross there, but she hasn’t been heard from since this happened last night.

Amazing how even the smallest of towns have been impacted by this, Vegas may be an American city but I’d bet a number of the victims are international tourists.

Cbc named two canadian tourists who were killed, and spoke with another that was there.

 

[UberTag]

Was at work all day and could hardly follow the news, this is so horrible. You'd think a tragedy of this magnitude would put the gun laws back under discussion but I guess that's too much to hope for. Once again nothing will change I guess.

Nothing will change because folks are convinced nothing will change.
Funny how that works.

 

[Shadow Puppetry]

https://twitter.com/thedesirina/status/914911683742699521

 

[djplaeskool]

To be clear, we have no information one way or another about the motivation or the beliefs of the shooter, correct?

Dude kept a low profile.
Seems like extremely limited or no real social media presence, no police record. Worked through to retirement. NYT has a long write up, and the only thing of note about the guy is his father being a bank robber in the 60s or something like that. Going to be a while, I think.

 

[RDreamer]

Why would she say something like that???

Someone in this thread said something like it. It's pretty much the worst response you could possibly have to this. Stupid beyond belief. Unless Wayne La Pierre himself is the single and only one getting shot by some lone gunman please stop assuming everyone in a crowd is voting some way and they don't deserve your sympathy for whatever dumbshit reason. People don't deserve to die no matter how horrendous their voting patterns are.

 

[Creamium]

It's not going to be on the table any time soon. If the gruesome murder of dozens of small children couldn't get even the smallest law enacted or even voted on nothing is going to.

Im pretty sure they are back under discussion, but the republicans try to shut down the discussion, thats par for the course.

It's depressing. Didn't Obama also try to change them and couldn't get it through? I guess the NRA is all-powerful.

 

[StopMakingSense]

Can anyone link me to the article about fake info going around?

My friend just sent me this post and I want to link him to something before I fucking punch him in the face

"The shooter, Stephen Craig Paddock, 64.. a white liberal Democrat, hated President Trump and spoke openly about his political views. They are as follows:

Political Views per his Facebook page:
-Proud to Be a Democrat
-The Rachel Maddow Show
-Thank You Obama
-Anti-Trump Army
-Progressive Day,
Organizing for Action (Soros)
-Not My President
-Fight Trump
-Boycott All Things Trump
-Impeach Trump

I am sharing, because the media won't."

These were originally attributed to a FB page people were trying to say was the shooter of a man who had the last name as the woman.

You could see the /pol/ propaganda evolve on twitter overnight it was super creepy.

 

[Tahnit]

It’s getting to the point I don’t want to be in America anymore. It’s getting more and more unsafe, and I’m in a small town in Florida.

 

[Steel]

It's depressing. Didn't Obama also try to change them and couldn't get it through? I guess the NRA is all-powerful.

Obama at least put through some EOs. Of course Trump got rid of them.

 

[Tagyhag]

Why would she say something like that???

Because Republicans are the ones that have been denying gun control for years.

That said, not being able to sympathize for innocent victims in a senseless attack like this is inhuman.

It’s getting to the point I don’t want to be in America anymore. It’s getting more and more unsafe, and I’m in a small town in Florida.

This is factually false. Pound for pound, you haven't lived in a safer time.

Depending on where you are, you had like 5x bigger chance of getting shot in the 90's.

 

[jmizzal]

Sorry i'm not on top of things, but is the killer still alive? If not how was he caught?

edit

Just saw he shot himself

 

[Switch Back 9]

Sorry i'm not on top of things, but is the killer still alive? If not how was he caught?

He's dead, killed himself.

 

[the210]

Why were you more comfortable with more rounds when you could carry? You only need four bullets to incapacitate a target factoring in a couple of misses. Additionally, carrying a gun in the first place increases your likelihood of being killed by a gun, even without considering suicides. Having a gun can turn a situation where you could be robbed into you getting shot because you tried to resist(and statistically, that's how things work out more often than not).

You want more than four shots for competitive shooting? Just allow shooting ranges to have bigger magazines that can't be removed from the premises.

I'm strictly looking at things from a self defense point of view. My main weapon had 17 round capacity but the next gun I bought was around 10. I felt like that would be really limiting so I carried both. Luckily I never had to fire a shot. I haven't felt the need to carry in 18 years or so but that is changing now.

 

[djplaeskool]

Sorry i'm not on top of things, but is the killer still alive? If not how was he caught?

Found dead in the hotel of self-inflicted wound

 

[Mahonay]

Sorry i'm not on top of things, but is the killer still alive? If not how was he caught?

He killed himself before the police got to him from the room he was shooting from.

 

[mcfrank]

Sorry i'm not on top of things, but is the killer still alive? If not how was he caught?

Killed himself

 

[Aurongel]

Yeesh, making fake social media accounts for mass murderers to sway public opinion?

We really are in a technological dystopia.

 

[Steel]

I'm strictly looking at things from a self defense point of view. My main weapon had 17 round capacity but the next gun I bought was around 10. I felt like that would be really limiting so I carried both. Luckily I never had to fire a shot. I haven't felt the need to carry in 18 years or so but that is changing now.

I am talking about a self-defense point of view. You're less safe with a gun, statistically. If you did have to fire 10 shots to get yourself out of a situation, you'd be in a situation where you're fighting off multiple attackers that likely also have guns that are already drawn. Which is to say, your chances against them would be better if you surrender to their demands and you're nearly certain to die if you resist.

 

[Nevasleep]

All the talk of God for a developed country was pretty horrible.

Saw that Mark Kelly, congresswoman Gabby Giffords' husband, said how it is.

"Thoughts and prayers are important. We send our thoughts and prayers, too. But they are not enough. Your thoughts and prayers aren't going to stop the next shooting. Only action and leadership will do that."

 

[mike6467]

I am talking about a self-defense point of view. You're less safe with a gun, statistically. If you did have to fire 10 shots to get yourself out of a situation, you'd be in a situation where you're fighting off multiple attackers that likely also have guns. Which is to say, your chances against them would be better if you surrender to their demands and you're nearly certain to die if you resist.

This is the same belief that makes people fear self-driving cars. It's the illusion of having control.

 

[StopMakingSense]

Yeesh, making fake social media accounts for mass murderers to sway public opinion?

We really are in a technological dystopia.

I don't think they made a page, but found a person who had the last name of the woman and ran with it.

 

[Akronis]

I don't care what his politics are. That some people do is kind of upsetting. Whatever his politics he thought it was okay to kill 60 or so people and injure hundreds. If he's left wing or right wing, seems kind of secondary, you know?

Because those people actually don't care. These events are "ammunition" to construct narratives from.