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[Do Make Say Think]

It wasn't a mistake. Humans are the terrible ones. It's not the platform's fault. You guys keep saying the joke was harmless, yet seem to be upset with the way Austin responded to it.

Who's Austin?

All I saw was this https://archive.fo/YYrjP

 

[DeepEnigma]

Who's Austin?

 

[Luffytubby]

You're going to have to elaborate more on that because I don't even know how you came to this conclusion. Telling someone to check their privilege when they themselves are privileged means they lack debate skills? Wouldn't a privileged person know a thing or two about being privileged and thus more than capable of telling someone to check their own?

The problem with the idea of privilege is that that sort of discussion will only end in oppression olympics(ranking suffrage, and dismissing suffrage of others). And everyone having their own struggles and disadvantages, many people are just not going to look at things like a piece of math. Trust me- Life can be plenty miserable and disadvantaged for white male Americans.

Appealing to someones compassion is needed to make people considerate. Accusations of privilege usually just makes more people more angry. And understandable so- It's a generic over simplified take on tribalism, that exist in any society. The advantage that white majority currently has in America, is the same sort of privilege that you see in almost every other country. You'd be hard pressed to find anywhere, were the minority is not disadvantaged.
Does being aware of your own luck and fortunes bring net positives? Damn straight, but I think it's time to throw in the towel on terms like white privilege. It just doesn't make any sense to talk about social herd immunity in that way.

 

[Lionel Richie]

It wasn't a mistake. Humans are the terrible ones. It's not the platform's fault. You guys keep saying the joke was harmless, yet seem to be upset with the way Austin responded to it.

To be fair, CDPR is top notch developer with a long history of making state of the art games. Austin Walker is a legendary shithead with a long history of pushing an insufferable agenda. Those things are not comparable.

 

[Dunki]

Your theory is terribly flawed and probably flat out incorrect. It assumes that the only people who were upset weren't gamers and weren't going to buy it in the first place. It is a baseless assumption that you are in no position to make. Them deleting the tweet will have absolutely no effect on sales. Especially since most of these "gamers" who "hate PC culture" you talk about make fun of people for boycotting games over dumb stuff, right? so it would just be hypocritical for them to boycott a game over deleting a tweet.

Your battlefield example makes no sense, especially in this context, and I'm going to be honest your poor grammar doesn't help. I assume you're tying to say "look battlefield has bad preorder numbers because it has a female on the cover how dare they give into PC culture." Right? I think that's what you're trying to say.

Honestly I don't know what to say. You're the kind of person who would not have survived on old gaf. And I don't mean that as a compliment to new gaf. Why does it bother you so much that they deleted the tweet? If you weren't offended ok whatever. You're not a transgender person so you're not really in a position to be offended by that joke. They recognized the tweet was somewhat offensive and deleted it. They meant no harm and did the right thing. Why are you so upset about that? Why is it so important to you that they don't apologize? Why are you making a big deal about how this will effect sales while going out of your way to say there was no way sales would have been effected if they kept the tweet up?

I know this because I looked at the accounts there were in the begining offended by it. First of we have some "journalist" who in general do not even buy games but demand to get a review copy. Thats one Person. Then several others not having anything gaming related in their tweets at all.

And no gamer do not make fun of people boycotting the game. They wish these people would do this. They are making fun of them getting outraged accusing the developer of racism/sexism etc. Writing bad articles how a scene in Castlevania 2 (the new series back than) is comparable to games like rapely. They asking to change and delete this content. They are accusing Developer of Racism even though they were the ones who did the historical research (Kingdom Come) while american "journalists" who have no Idea of European history making bullshit claims. If they only would boycott the games instead and shut the F up with their fake outrage.

As for Battlefiled: I do not know how to tell you but it was not boycottet because of women in Battlefield. It was boycotted because the games was politicized because people were told that they are uneducated and if theyy do not want to play it they should not buy it because they are on the right side of history. And yes this is what he said. What gamers then did is similar to the Trump election. They were silent and then voted with their money in the end or in Trumps case they went silent because everyone of them were viallainized and stigmatized as Nazis etc. And in the end they voted for him. That is also why people did not get anything accurate in terms of surveys anymore. They did shut up were silent and voted.

And I am personally are upset becase again you normally do not give into demands of fascists or terrorists. and this is the same it was a very very small minory that was loud. What CD RED is now facing is a really loud majority because thanks to the apology and the deletion of the tweet they got a real outrage. As I said before they are now 5-6 times more comments on this apology than there was on the Joke one and even there most people defended the joke.

And as I said before it will not have the effect of Battlefield in terms of sales because they were not assholes and insulted the fanbase but there will still be people who do not like censorship and fake outrage and who indeed vote with their wallet while people like Austin Walker who calls himself a journalist (lol) is still outraged about the tweet.

PS: People like Austin are people who you can not please because they only follow and push their agenda. The only thing they excuse are rape and pedophilia jokes by their coworkers because they follow the same path of fascism then he does.

 

[Clear]

Sorry but all a see is a certain group wishing to exercise absolute control over public speech; they get to determine what is acceptable and unacceptable, when offense must be taken, and that dissenting viewpoints must be expunged for the good of society. Its totalitarianism 101.

Resetera is important because it demonstrates on a microscopic scale the cultural future that these extremists want. Let me state again: 21 expulsions from that community not for making the joke, but for not being sufficiently outraged by it.

That is vastly more offensive to my political sensibilities than the content of the Tweet that started this off.

 

[mckmas8808]

Who's Austin?

All I saw was this https://archive.fo/YYrjP

LOL!!! Austin Walker.

To be fair, CDPR is top notch developer with a long history of making state of the art games. Austin Walker is a legendary shithead with a long history of pushing an insufferable agenda. Those things are not comparable.

That's just your opinion on Austin. I tend to respect and like the guy. At least CDPR had the sense to apologize and take the tweet down. Good job CDPR!

 

[PeterGAF]

It is a lame ass phrase used to stifle discourse, nothing more. I was being tongue-in-cheek with my original post.

There are better ways to make people aware of certain "privileges" without sounded like an pompous fool.

you were being tongue-in-cheek when you said that telling someone to check their privilege means:

they have very little in the way of debate skills when engaging in public discourse

?
So you didn't really mean that? Then what did you mean? what is your actual stance on this?

The problem with the idea of privilege is that that sort of discussion will only end in oppression olympics(ranking suffrage, and dismissing suffrage of others). And everyone having their own struggles and disadvantages, many people are just not going to look at things like a piece of math. Trust me- Life can be plenty miserable and disadvantaged for white male Americans.

Appealing to someones compassion is needed to make people considerate. Accusations of privilege usually just makes more people more angry. And understandable so- It's a generic over simplified take on tribalism, that exist in any society. The advantage that white majority currently has in America, is the same sort of privilege that you see in almost every other country. You'd be hard pressed to find anywhere, were the minority is not disadvantaged.
Does being aware of your own luck and fortunes bring net positives? Damn straight, but I think it's time to throw in the towel on terms like white privilege. It just doesn't make any sense to talk about social herd immunity in that way.

And I think you are missing the point here. DeepEnigma might want to listen up too. This isn't some oppression olympics. This isn't some comment against the US like your post seems to think (CDPR isn't even a US developer). Its about recognizing privilege. I

When you're telling someone to check their privilege in this context you're saying "hey you're not a transgender person and you don't have to deal with their struggles so you're not in a position to tell them what they should or shouldn't be offended by. You don't speak for them, and you don't have to deal with the shit they deal with for being transgender." That's what it means. You are privileged. It doesn't make you a bad person, but it also means you can't really relate to this issue.

So lets break this down.
- CDPR made a bad taste joke
- CDPR is criticized for the tweet
- CDPR takes the tweet down and apologizes
- people are upset that CDPR apologized

again if you weren't offended by the joke fine. but if you're mad that other people are offended by it then you should check your privilege. I understand why hearing that might be frustrating because it basically disqualifies you from being upset about this, but as it turns out it really doesn't matter if you're upset about this. CDPR obviously agreed that the tweet was in bad taste because they deleted it and apologized. I can't see why it is so important to you that CDPR keep the tweet up and not apologize, but they did and that's that. get over it.[/quote]

 

[DeepEnigma]

Sorry but all a see is a certain group wishing to exercise absolute control over public speech; they get to determine what is acceptable and unacceptable, when offense must be taken, and that dissenting viewpoints must be expunged for the good of society. Its totalitarianism 101.

Resetera is important because it demonstrates on a microscopic scale the cultural future that these extremists want. Let me state again: 21 expulsions from that community not for making the joke, but for not being sufficiently outraged by it.

That is vastly more offensive to my political sensibilities than the content of the Tweet that started this off.

Agreed. Especially your very last sentence.

 

[LightofRohan]

It's crazy the lengths some people go, to make sure some people don't get offended. Like it's the worst thing you could ever explicitly do in life, is to make someone offended. So you have to be ENRAGED at the possibility of someone maybe reading something and getting offended, and harass that individual that caused offense.

Honestly though, I get it. But if a Tweet from a game company can cause you to shutdown and be wrecked with offensiveness, you have to re-work your life priorities.

 

[DeepEnigma]

you were being tongue-in-cheek when you said that telling someone to check their privilege means:

Oh noes, is this another gotcha by you? This argument is boring because you can't simply grasp how ignorant and stifling using those NUsociology terms peddled by those who like to, gasp, apply labels and control the narrative.

 

[Dunki]

That's just your opinion on Austin. I tend to respect and like the guy. At least CDPR had the sense to apologize and take the tweet down. Good job CDPR!

Yeah some people just like fascists. Honestly I do not judge you it is your decision who you like.

As for CDPR as I said before the outrage machine is now much much bigger and giving the fact that they also only showed the game so far to entitled "journalists" does not make it better.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Ok so I looked up what this Austin fellow had to say about the tweet.

Sure, whatever. The problem isn't that someone or even a lot of people think that, the problem is mob mentality: "if someone says something that a group of idiots also like to say, then that's not ok!!" is hogwash to me.

I don't think anyone who felt offended was wrong to feel that way mind you. I just hate the lowest common denominator strategy: don't tell me what is ok and not ok based on the behaviour of some alt right shitheads.

 

[Humdinger]

Sorry but all a see is a certain group wishing to exercise absolute control over public speech; they get to determine what is acceptable and unacceptable, when offense must be taken, and that dissenting viewpoints must be expunged for the good of society. Its totalitarianism 101.

Resetera is important because it demonstrates on a microscopic scale the cultural future that these extremists want. Let me state again: 21 expulsions from that community not for making the joke, but for not being sufficiently outraged by it.

That is vastly more offensive to my political sensibilities than the content of the Tweet that started this off.

I agree with you, but I'd also like to say, let's not get too outraged. If Resetera wants to become a SJW/PC safe space community, that's their right. We can point and laugh, but I'd suggest we not take it too seriously. That's part of the problem -- people taking things far too seriously and getting too deeply offended about things that don't matter all that much.

Now when it comes to the wider world and the operation of SJW/PC philosophy and everything that underlies it (identity politics, Marxism, postmodernism), I think that's an awful and dangerous thing, and I think being frightened and outraged about what that movement has already done to our societies, and the damage it could do in the future -- that's worth getting upset about.

But I think when it comes to a videogame forum, it's probably better to laugh and ridicule, rather than get outraged or offended. At least that's my thought.

 

[PeterGAF]

Sorry but all a see is a certain group wishing to exercise absolute control over public speech; they get to determine what is acceptable and unacceptable, when offense must be taken, and that dissenting viewpoints must be expunged for the good of society. Its totalitarianism 101.

Resetera is important because it demonstrates on a microscopic scale the cultural future that these extremists want. Let me state again: 21 expulsions from that community not for making the joke, but for not being sufficiently outraged by it.

That is vastly more offensive to my political sensibilities than the content of the Tweet that started this off.

You think people getting banned on a stupid little forum is more offensive than a transphobic joke? Says a lot about you.

Is this all newGAF is? Shitting on ResetERA?

 

[Cunth]

You think people getting banned on a stupid little forum is more offensive than a transphobic joke? Says a lot about you.

Is this all newGAF is? Shitting on ResetERA?

But it's not transphobic

 

[TLZ]

Sorry for being a bit thick or slow here, I thought the CDPR comment looked pro gender spectrum when I read it and I didn't see the joke?

I swear I can't get this culture. It's like I'm dealing with 5 year olds.

 

[v1oz]

I just don't get it. It's pretty tame as far as jokes go. People still joke about hot issues like religion and race issues on telly, have all jokes about gender stereotypes suddenly become unacceptable?

 

[royox]

You think people getting banned on a stupid little forum is more offensive than a transphobic joke? Says a lot about you.

Is this all newGAF is? Shitting on ResetERA?

You aprove Censorship then? You aprove that some groups decide what can and what can't be said on internet to defend some people with thin skin that gets offended at everything?

 

[gaming_noob]

How do you live when you get offended by every little thing...

 

[mckmas8808]

You think people getting banned on a stupid little forum is more offensive than a transphobic joke? Says a lot about you.

Is this all newGAF is? Shitting on ResetERA?

No not all of us are anti-resetERA. Some of us have a neutral position of that site and don't really care.

I just don't get it. It's pretty tame as far as jokes go. People still joke about hot issues like religion and race issues on telly, have all jokes about gender stereotypes suddenly become unacceptable?

Don't make this into a world-wide society thing. A few people got upset about the CDPR Twitter joke. But the majority aren't upset. Everything is still fine.

 

[PeterGAF]

Oh noes, is this another gotcha by you? This argument is boring because you can't simply grasp how ignorant and stifling using those NUsociology terms peddled by those who like to, gasp, apply labels and control the narrative.

DeepEnigma is a good username for you because no one knows what you're talking about.

What am I being ignorant of? You said you were being tongue-in-cheek when I criticized your point but now you're saying I'm just trying to catch you? You didn't answer my question. What is your stance. You're talking about controlling a narrative but there's nothing to control. You're not adding to a narrative. You're just saying a bunch of nothing. I called out your bad argument when you tried to pull the old "check my privilege? how about YOU CHECK YOURS ZING GOTCHA!" and then you proceeded to get a little upset that I compared your point to a comic strip. I then told you that a privileged person can still tell someone to check their privelege and you told me that it actually shows, and I quote:

they have very little in the way of debate skills when engaging in public discourse

I asked you to elaborate on that because I have no idea how you came to that conclusion and we are still waiting on that. Instead of elaborating you decided to say a whole lot of nothing in a grandiose manner, likely hoping that I'd feel intimidated by how "smart" you are and stop bugging you. Unfortunately for you I don't fall for BS like that so here I am waiting for your explanation and your stance on all of this.

 

[Dunki]

Don't make this into a world-wide society thing. A few people got upset about the CDPR Twitter joke. But the majority aren't upset. Everything is still fine.

I will say it again since you either miss it or ignore it.

The outrage right now is much much bigger. While the joke had like 400-500 comments the vast majority of them even defending the joke the apology one has now 2.,7k comments and it is a fucking slaughterhouse in there. And most of them are angry that it got deleted with people thanking them for deleting getting barraged with replys how shitty they are. Just before it was a little joke now people really getting attacked on social media.

 

[v1oz]

Companies need to stop Twitter these days.

It's too damn risky with outrage and weaponization in full force.
The Twitter demographic is much more different now than it was a few years ago and there just isn't an upside for businesses anymore — it is needless risk exposure.

I think Twitter is far removed from wider society. Things that can cause outrage on Twitter won't cause outrage anywhere else apart from maybe some extreme fringe groups of people.

 

[Vtecomega]

No not all of us are anti-resetERA. Some of us have a neutral position of that site and don't really care.



Don't make this into a world-wide society thing. A few people got upset about the CDPR Twitter joke. But the majority aren't upset. Everything is still fine.

I would say more than a few. I made some admittedly harsh tweets defending CD red and I am getting every lefty nutjob on a witch hunt trying to track down my personal info.

 

[120v]

that wraps it up for CDPR. maybe they can make the game an F2P battle royale to recoup costs

 

[Helios]

that wraps it up for CDPR. maybe they can make the game an F2P battle royale to recoup costs

Finally, a Battle Royale based off my favorite franchise. Gwent.

 

[royox]

the apology one has now 2.,7k comments and it is a fucking slaughterhouse in there. .

When will they learn not to apologize? Every time someone makes a joke that creates a shitstorm and they apologyze they are giving'em the reason. It was a damn joke, a GOOD one. Don't apologize for being funny for god's sake.

 

[Spukc]

You think people getting banned on a stupid little forum is more offensive than a transphobic joke? Says a lot about you.

Is this all newGAF is? Shitting on ResetERA?

YIKES

 

[iconmaster]

is there a privilege index somewhere i can check to know where i stand?

 

[Eteric Rice]

When will they learn not to apologize? Every time someone makes a joke that creates a shitstorm and they apologyze they are giving'em the reason. It was a damn joke, a GOOD one. Don't apologize for being funny for god's sake.

There are people out there that get emotional stimulation from being outraged. It's basically Fox New's business model. We now have people that make entire careers on outrage. It's pretty scary.

 

[Haint]

You think people getting banned on a stupid little forum is more offensive than a transphobic joke? Says a lot about you.

Is this all newGAF is? Shitting on ResetERA?

The meme isn't transphoic, it's not even mocking transgender people. It's making fun of people who take disproportionate issue with objectively non-issues, a caricature of outrage/offended/pc culture, hyperbolic to prove it's point. The irony that it would cause such a row is hopefully lost on no one. A transgender person is never going to respond to an innocent misidentification in such a way. Being transgender, gay, or a person of color is not a free pass to be an asshole.

 

[Nintendo Switch]

You think people getting banned on a stupid little forum is more offensive than a transphobic joke? Says a lot about you.

Is this all newGAF is? Shitting on ResetERA?

I dont care about bans. I care about all the era posters tweeting demanding that whoever posted that bad joke be outed and fired.

These idiots want to ruin a person's life and livihood over a stupid tweet. And its not the first time.

This same mob got a woman fired for a dumb private tweet about aids in africa

Conservative mob got a fired and his family on food stamps because he was rude to a server at chick fil a

Thats what i hate

 

[PeterGAF]

But it's not transphobic

Yes it is and you're not the one who gets to decide that. It's a phrase which no transgender person actually says which mocks the use of preferred pronouns. Its a harmful stereotype. To you it might be a harmless joke making fun of "SJWs" but to a transgender person its far more offensive.

You aprove Censorship then? You aprove that some groups decide what can and what can't be said on internet to defend some people with thin skin that gets offended at everything?

This is absolutely insane. You're putting words in my mouth. I do not approve of censorship. But deleting a bad joke is not censorship. What happened here was a private company made a bad joke and decided to take it down after receiving feedback from their community. They weren't forced to take it down. No one is going to jail. No one broke any laws. This is a bad post and you should feel bad for even thinking that this is censorship.

 

[v1oz]

No not all of us are anti-resetERA. Some of us have a neutral position of that site and don't really care.



Don't make this into a world-wide society thing. A few people got upset about the CDPR Twitter joke. But the majority aren't upset. Everything is still fine.

People are getting banned on other forums. CDPR has had to issue an apology. So definitely something major happened, but I think it's more of an issue with gamers in America because of the toxic political climate especially when it comes to themes of marginalised groups. I don't think gamers in other parts of the world would have issue with jokes which aren't intentionally trying to be malicious.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

I think Twitter is far removed from wider society. Things that can cause outrage on Twitter won't cause outrage anywhere else apart from maybe some extreme fringe groups of people.

Mostly people who spend way too much time online. That includes both the altright and the crazyleft

 

[Cunth]

Yes it is and you're not the one who gets to decide that. It's a phrase which no transgender person actually says which mocks the use of preferred pronouns. Its a harmful stereotype. To you it might be a harmless joke making fun of "SJWs" but to a transgender person its far more offensive.

You don't get to decide either. Do you speak on behalf of all transgender people? Ok, let's say some people are offended. Are we only allowed to make jokes now that absolutely offend no one? Who decides that? Where do you draw the line? Where is the safe zone for humour in your opinion?

 

[PeterGAF]

The meme isn't transphoic, it's not even mocking transgender people. It's making fun of people who take disproportionate issue with objectively non-issues, a caricature of outrage/offended/pc culture, hyperbolic to prove it's point. The irony that it would cause such a row is hopefully lost on no one.

No you're very wrong about this. Even the "know your meme" page mentions that it's used to mock the trans and queer communities

"Did You Just Assume My Gender?" is a punchline used to mock the sensitivity of feminists, Social Justice Warriors, and the discussions going on in the LGBTQ community, particularly the Trans and Queer communities, involving gender identification.

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

No you're very wrong about this. Even the "know your meme" page mentions that it's used to mock the trans and queer communities

It appears that it is "used to mock the sensitivity of[...]" and "the discussions going on" which is another thing entirely and is exactly what Haint said.

You literally just steamrolled through your own quote without reading closely and proved his point instead.

 

[Dunki]

No you're very wrong about this. Even the "know your meme" page mentions that it's used to mock the trans and queer communities

It may be my bad english but to me it sounds like they mock SJW and feminists talking about these issuesto a extreme degree aka 1000 gender etc.

 

[PeterGAF]

You don't get to decide either. Do you speak on behalf of all transgender people? Ok, let's say some people are offended. Are we only allowed to make jokes now that absolutely offend no one? Who decides that? Where do you draw the line? Where is the safe zone for humour in your opinion?

For starters you're right I don't get to decide that. While I am flattered that you believe I'm the one who made the holy decree that it is an offensive joke I have to inform you that I am not the one. I'm just simply telling you how it is.

The rest of your post has a lot more to do with the construction and delivery of a joke. It's a complicated a long discussion, but the quick and dirty is no you don't have to avoid offending absolutely everyone with a joke but at the same time the sole purpose of your joke shouldn't be to offend someone because at that point you're no longer making a joke you're just trying to hurt someones feelings. Ultimately it comes to properly building up the joke, properly delivering the joke, and the context which the joke is told in. Again being quick and dirty here, CDPR was not particular good on any of these fronts. They made a cheap, lame joke that was just a response to someones comment. It didn't feel necessary.

GameTheory made a pretty good video about this topic when MatPat covered the whole pewdiepie drama a while back. He explained it pretty well there.

 

[xStoyax]

CP2077 Twitter account posts meme response to a guy a gamescom.

Wow, did you just assume its gender??

 

[cromofo]

The "progressive gaming" crowd is insignificant, as is the transgender population when it comes to the share of sales. Loud miniscule minority.

And why the hell are people on Twitter and Resetera bringing up the notion that somehow transgenderism is one of the core themes of CP2077? Setting up a narrative? Cyberpunk transhumanism is a long ways off current gender politics and bickerings.

Bound to get disappointed I say.

SJWs don't buy games. They just blubber. Sooner or later companies will see that. We're seeing a shift with BFV.

 

[PeterGAF]

It appears that it is "used to mock the sensitivity of[...]" and "the discussions going on" which is another thing entirely and is exactly what Haint said.

You literally just steamrolled through your own quote without reading closely and proved his point instead.

It may be my bad english but to me it sounds like they mock SJW and feminists talking about these issuesto a extreme degree aka 1000 gender etc.

Yes it is mocking something they don't talk about. You're not making fun of some non-transgender SJW when you say "OH YOU ASSUMED MY GENDER" because only transgender people actually deal with that identity issue and the criticism that comes with it. And guess what, no one actually says that. It belittles and mocks them and their lifestyle. If you can't see this then I really don't know what else to say.

 

[haxan7]

You don't get to decide either. Do you speak on behalf of all transgender people? Ok, let's say some people are offended. Are we only allowed to make jokes now that absolutely offend no one? Who decides that? Where do you draw the line? Where is the safe zone for humour in your opinion?

I draw the line at making fun of Val Kilmer's weight gain, you SICK BASTARD. It is utterly indefensible and disgusting that you would choose an avatar that represents one of the GREATEST ACTORS OF OUR TIME in an unflattering light. Sure, he gained a little weight, but how on fucking earth does that give you the right to subtly degrade and dehumanize him the way you have chosen to do? I am shaking as I type this.

 

[Dr. Claus]

For starters you're right I don't get to decide that. While I am flattered that you believe I'm the one who made the holy decree that it is an offensive joke I have to inform you that I am not the one. I'm just simply telling you how it is.

The rest of your post has a lot more to do with the construction and delivery of a joke. It's a complicated a long discussion, but the quick and dirty is no you don't have to avoid offending absolutely everyone with a joke but at the same time the sole purpose of your joke shouldn't be to offend someone because at that point you're no longer making a joke you're just trying to hurt someones feelings. Ultimately it comes to properly building up the joke, properly delivering the joke, and the context which the joke is told in. Again being quick and dirty here, CDPR was not particular good on any of these fronts. They made a cheap, lame joke that was just a response to someones comment. It didn't feel necessary.

GameTheory made a pretty good video about this topic when MatPat covered the whole pewdiepie drama a while back. He explained it pretty well there.

No, you are just pushing your own personal opinion as "fact" while making incredibly generalized claims of large portions of people - those very people who disagreed with you both in this thread and on twitter where the drama originated.

It is fine if you find the joke in poor taste or if you were personally offended, do not be making claims for everyone else by speaking on their behalf.

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

Yes it is mocking something they don't talk about. You're not making fun of some non-transgender SJW when you say "OH YOU ASSUMED MY GENDER" because only transgender people actually deal with that identity issue and the criticism that comes with it. And guess what, no one actually says that. It belittles and mocks them and their lifestyle. If you can't see this then I really don't know what else to say.

No, it mocks the people who use that phrase, often people who themselves are not Trans but are merely getting outraged on their behalf.

But sure, if you want to align yourself with the Tumblr crowd (which is what "I identify as an attack helicopter" and "Did you just assume my [insert funny word]?" came from) that's your call.

And by that same extension, doesn't this call into question pretty much all humor? Are jokes against Irish people inappropriate because they "actually deal with that identity issue" and the majority of people who make drunk Irish jokes aren't Irish?

 

[Dunki]

Yes it is mocking something they don't talk about. You're not making fun of some non-transgender SJW when you say "OH YOU ASSUMED MY GENDER" because only transgender people actually deal with that identity issue and the criticism that comes with it. And guess what, no one actually says that. It belittles and mocks them and their lifestyle. If you can't see this then I really don't know what else to say.

In online discussions, a vocal community of people who identified as genderqueer[1] or genderfluid (neither a boy or girl) grew on Tumblr and certain subreddits as part of Social Justice Blogging and increased awareness surrounding gender issues. "Did You Just Assume My Gender?" first appeared as a punchline mocking the supposedly militant nature of feminists and queer activists in a May 1st, 2016 post on Imgur by JCMorrowx

"Did You Just Assume My Gender?" soon became a punchline associated with Triggered [3] memes and social justice warriors. On May 29th, 2016, a thread on Reddit's /r/OutofTheLoop[4] asked "What's with people and their gender identities lately?" The top comment read:

"The gist of it is that once transgender people started to become more socially acceptable, it suddenly became cool (on tumblr at least) to pretend you were transgender or at the very least not bound to just one gender. As a result, certain people started to state the pronouns they wished to be assigned to them (i.e.ce/cir/cirs/cirself instead of he/him/his/himself) and lead to people complaining about being refered to as male or female."​

Over the course of the summer, "Did You Just Assume My Gender?" jokes trended on 9gag[4] and ifunny.[5] Another thread on /r/OutOfTheLoop appeared on August 24th, this time asking "Where did Did you just assume my gender? come from?"[6]

it mocks the activists not because they are trans but because of their ideology

 

[royox]

This is absolutely insane. You're putting words in my mouth. I do not approve of censorship. But deleting a bad joke is not censorship. What happened here was a private company made a bad joke and decided to take it down after receiving feedback from their community. They weren't forced to take it down. No one is going to jail. No one broke any laws. This is a bad post and you should feel bad for even thinking that this is censorship.

This was the point the person you replied before was making. I was just explaining it to you more openly.

Almost every time there's some kind of joke/comment that some SJW mob doesn't like they raid that twitter account and most times one person gets fired because the big enterprise don't want it's own image to be damaged. That person can have a family, children to rise, a house to pay and all those lives can be destroyed because some people with thin skin are deciding what can and can't be said on internet. People not saying things on internet because they are SCARED is also a form of censorship.

 

[fvng]

Call out culture is getting out of hand. This was a mild non malicious joke that plays off a real term that gets thrown around frequently. No harm no foul. It's sad that harmless jokes can't be made without fear of retribution from online mobs.