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[EDMIX]

you were being tongue-in-cheek when you said that telling someone to check their privilege means: ?
So you didn't really mean that? Then what did you mean? what is your actual stance on this?

And I think you are missing the point here. DeepEnigma might want to listen up too. This isn't some oppression olympics. This isn't some comment against the US like your post seems to think (CDPR isn't even a US developer). Its about recognizing privilege. I

When you're telling someone to check their privilege in this context you're saying "hey you're not a transgender person and you don't have to deal with their struggles so you're not in a position to tell them what they should or shouldn't be offended by. You don't speak for them, and you don't have to deal with the shit they deal with for being transgender." That's what it means. You are privileged. It doesn't make you a bad person, but it also means you can't really relate to this issue.

So lets break this down.
- CDPR made a bad taste joke
- CDPR is criticized for the tweet
- CDPR takes the tweet down and apologizes
- people are upset that CDPR apologized

again if you weren't offended by the joke fine. but if you're mad that other people are offended by it then you should check your privilege. I understand why hearing that might be frustrating because it basically disqualifies you from being upset about this, but as it turns out it really doesn't matter if you're upset about this. CDPR obviously agreed that the tweet was in bad taste because they deleted it and apologized. I can't see why it is so important to you that CDPR keep the tweet up and not apologize, but they did and that's that. get over it.

[/QUOTE]

THIS!

Respect for them for handling this the right way.

 

[cromofo]

Call out culture is getting out of hand. This was a mild non malicious joke that plays off a real term that gets thrown around frequently. No harm no foul. It's sad that harmless jokes can't be made without fear of retribution from online mobs.

What retribution tho? The only power they have is the one we give them.

Removing the tweet was the wrong move. Apology was good, but should've left the joke tweet.

Twitter SJWs are insignificant.

 

[PeterGAF]

No, you are just pushing your own personal opinion as "fact" while making incredibly generalized claims of large portions of people - those very people who disagreed with you both in this thread and on twitter where the drama originated.

It is fine if you find the joke in poor taste or if you were personally offended, do not be making claims for everyone else by speaking on their behalf.

where am I pushing my opinions as fact? show me! You and Engima both need to actually back up your claims.

No, it mocks the people who use that phrase, often people who themselves are not Trans but are merely getting outraged on their behalf.

But sure, if you want to align yourself with the Tumblr crowd (which is what "I identify as an attack helicopter" and "Did you just assume my [insert funny word]?" came from) that's your call.

And by that same extension, doesn't this call into question pretty much all humor? Are jokes against Irish people inappropriate because they "actually deal with that identity issue" and the majority of people who make drunk Irish jokes aren't Irish?

I have a very tough time following this. So accroding to you the "did you just assume my gender" joke makes fun of people saying "did you just assume my gender?"
...
what?!?!

I'm going to lay this out for you as simply as I can. When you say "did you just assume my gender?!?!" you are mocking the transgender community by feigning offense to being misidentified when you weren't actually. You are trivializing an actual issue and making fun of the transgender community over something they don't actually say.

The whole "I identify as an attack helicopter thing" is also offensive as it trivializes the seriousness of gender identity. It's inherently offensive.

And honestly regarding the last part of your post I'm not sure if you're even following this discussion. Why am I even giving you my time?

 

[fvng]

What retribution tho? The only power they have is the one we give them.

Removing the tweet was the wrong move. Apology was good, but should've left the joke tweet.

Twitter SJWs are insignificant.

I agree apology is fine to reassure that the intent wasn't to offend and to keep the tweet up would have been better

 

[Dr. Claus]

where am I pushing my opinions as fact? show me! You and Engima both need to actually back up your claims.

I have a very tough time following this. So accroding to you the "did you just assume my gender" joke makes fun of people saying "did you just assume my gender?"
...
what?!?!

I'm going to lay this out for you as simply as I can. When you say "did you just assume my gender?!?!" you are mocking the transgender community by feigning offense to being misidentified when you weren't actually. You are trivializing an actual issue and making fun of the transgender community over something they don't actually say.

The whole "I identify as an attack helicopter thing" is also offensive as it trivializes the seriousness of gender identity. It's inherently offensive.

And honestly regarding the last part of your post I'm not sure if you're even following this discussion. Why am I even giving you my time?

Back up my claims? Mate, your posts are here for everyone to see. You made multiple claims that this joke is "transphobic" which would indicate it offends all of (if not the vast majority) of trans people, something that has been disproven as I stated earlier by trans folk on twitter and here.

 

[fvng]

Is anyone talking about this outside of this GAF thread or is the OP just trying to stir shit up?

 

[Noboru Wataya]

Do trans people generally get offended when they are misidentified by strangers? If yes, then you would think their skin would be a brave bit thicker.

 

[Haint]

Yes it is mocking something they don't talk about. You're not making fun of some non-transgender SJW when you say "OH YOU ASSUMED MY GENDER" because only transgender people actually deal with that identity issue and the criticism that comes with it. And guess what, no one actually says that. It belittles and mocks them and their lifestyle. If you can't see this then I really don't know what else to say.

I think I see where you're missing the point. The person it's mocking can be transgender, but it is not mocking them because they're transgender. Someone being misidentified just happened to be the example they used because in the context of wholly self explainatory 7 word memes, it's certainly the best I could think of. There is no inherent negative connotation stated or implied about being transgender. For example, it could have just as easily been a woman with car trouble getting outraged by a man who pulled over to help her "DID YOU JUST ASSUME I CAN'T FIX A CAR BECAUSE I'M A WOMAN!". Such a meme would obviously not be mocking or casting aspersions on women as a whole.

 

[captainraincoat]

Wow...as expected this blew up like I thought it would.

Seriously ....if people get offended by something as stupid as that tweet then I really begin to wonder how these sorts of people function on a day to day basis....i wont say its laughable as its actually quite scary as once real life serves them up a slice of reality they will implode.

The old saying ...sticks and stones really needs to be retaught

 

[PeterGAF]

Back up my claims? Mate, your posts are here for everyone to see. You made multiple claims that this joke is "transphobic" which would indicate it offends all of (if not the vast majority) of trans people, something that has been disproven as I stated earlier by trans folk on twitter and here.

So your claim is because there are trans people on twitter who were not offended that the joke is in fact not offensive? That's not a good argument.

If there are trans people who were not offended by the joke that's great for them. More power to them. But those individuals do not speak for everyone. The joke is inherently offensive. by saying "did you just assume my gender?!?!" you are feigning offense to being misidentified and making fun of someone for having preferred pronouns. You are pretending to be the transgender person in this joke and are making fun of how they get offended by being misidentified, and in doing so you are belittling an actual issue. That is not an opinion that is a fact. Sorry you can't see that.

Again if you're not offended by the joke that's great. But that doesn't make it an unoffensive joke. The fact of the matter is CDPR did see how it was offensive and apologized for making the joke.

 

[haxan7]

Does this mean CDPR and Warhorse Studios (Daniel Vavra) are Slavic buds now? Cuz that changes the entire gaming landscape.

 

[CatLady]

Yes it is and you're not the one who gets to decide that. It's a phrase which no transgender person actually says which mocks the use of preferred pronouns. Its a harmful stereotype. To you it might be a harmless joke making fun of "SJWs" but to a transgender person its far more offensive.

So who appointed you as spokesperson for the transgender community and how is it you get to decide what transgender people find offensive???

There has already been an individual that identifies as transgender in this thread that stated they did NOT find the joke offensive, but did find the outrage mobs offensive and dangerous to their community because of the animosity the perpetually offended engender.

 

[PeterGAF]

I think I see where you're missing the point. The person it's mocking can be transgender, but it is not mocking them because they're transgender. Someone being misidentified just happened to be the example they used. For example, it could have just as easily been a woman with car trouble getting outraged by a man who pulled over to help her "DID YOU JUST ASSUME I CAN'T FIX A CAR BECAUSE I'M A WOMAN!".

Yeah bud I hate to break it to you but that's totally not the context of the joke at all. If that's your understanding of it then I see how your confused, but that's totally not how the joke is used. I really don't know how to explain that any further. The "did you just assume my/their gender" joke is about the pronoun someone used, not about some other gender stereotype. And again this is not an opinion or a misunderstanding on my part, this is a fact.

 

[PeterGAF]

So who appointed you as spokesperson for the transgender community and how is it you get to decide what transgender people find offensive???

There has already been an individual that identifies as transgender in this thread that stated they did NOT find the joke offensive, but did find the outrage mobs offensive and dangerous to their community because of the animosity the perpetually offended engender.

no one appointed me anything I'm just telling you that the joke is inherently transphobic. I'm not the one who decided that believe me. It's great if there is someone on this forum who is transgender who was not offended and is instead offended by other things, but they do not speak for everyone. The joke is inherently making fun of gender identification and there's no way around it.

Again folks, CDPR agrees with me. They removed the tweet.

 

[Humdinger]

It may be my bad english but to me it sounds like they mock SJW and feminists talking about these issuesto a extreme degree aka 1000 gender etc.

You got it right.

 

[jonnyp]

you're going to buy three copies of a game just because they made fun of trans people?

Man if I was on the side of "hey guys chill out it's just a joke" I certainly wouldn't want a post like this on my side. it's one thing to be ok with a joke it's another to say "yeah dude they made a statement I'm gonna support them hardcore for that!"

Sure there are tons of bad things going on in the world. That doesn't mean we can't talk about a bad taste joke. Especially on this forum where people were so excited about the prospect of talking about video games instead of politics. Those other things you mentioned were very political. I think the people of newGAF who like to keep it to the video games would rather talk about a tweet pertaining to a video game developer.

You cannot be serious? I have nothing against trans people, nor does CDPR. I will support them because of this BS politically correct outrage culture you seem deeply a part of.

 

[EDMIX]

What retribution tho? The only power they have is the one we give them.

Removing the tweet was the wrong move. Apology was good, but should've left the joke tweet.

Twitter SJWs are insignificant.

??? No, just no. If you really want to apologize, you can't just leave the very thing you are apologizing up and about. Makes zero sense. They did the right thing.

 

[CatLady]

no one appointed me anything I'm just telling you that the joke is inherently transphobic. I'm not the one who decided that believe me. It's great if there is someone on this forum who is transgender who was not offended and is instead offended by other things, but they do not speak for everyone. The joke is inherently making fun of gender identification and there's no way around it.

Again folks, CDPR agrees with me. They removed the tweet.

Your opinion is not FACT.
You don't seem to grasp that you do not get to dictate what is or isn't inherently transphobic. You do not get to speak for the entire transgender community and NO CDPR does not agree with you, they most likely made a business decision and deleted the tweet due to the twitter mob that no doubt had lots of outrage junkies like yourself attacking them.

 

[B_Signal]

I will say it again since you either miss it or ignore it.

The outrage right now is much much bigger. While the joke had like 400-500 comments the vast majority of them even defending the joke the apology one has now 2.,7k comments and it is a fucking slaughterhouse in there. And most of them are angry that it got deleted with people thanking them for deleting getting barraged with replys how shitty they are. Just before it was a little joke now people really getting attacked on social media.

Dunki, mate, I think you're the most perennially outraged forummer I've ever encountered Why are you tracking tweets, let it go, go and play something.

 

[Fuz]

It may be my bad english but to me it sounds like they mock SJW and feminists talking about these issuesto a extreme degree aka 1000 gender etc.

Exactly.

Who labels the joke as "transphobic" is an idiot.

 

[EDMIX]

You cannot be serious? I have nothing against trans people, nor does CDPR. I will support them because of this BS politically correct outrage culture you seem deeply a part of.

? That still doesn't really make sense. You are saying you are going to support a developer because they are against some political thing, thats no different then some SJW saying they would support a game solely some company supports some belief (ignoring the game itself)

Sorry but both are the same and both wrong. Its saying someone will support a developer solely based on some belief vs the game.

I support games if they are good, not based on what the developer believes as you legit are arguing the same SJW PC thing you seem to hate, simply for another side. Put this into perspective, it would be like a "SJW" saying "I won't support them because of this BS hate culture you seem deeply a part of" ie they are not even playing the games for fun, they are playing or not playing based on, oh...its a "white male", so I don't understand why anyone makes this dumb argument as if changing the gender or political party thus makes it fair.

SJW are bad because they are forcing, attacking or demanding a creator to change something.
SJW are bad because they are deciding to play or not play a game based solely on a conspiracy, white males, political beliefs of the developer instead of the quality of the damn game etc

So doing the same thing doesn't make you not a SJW, ironically it makes you exactly just that, simply for a different demographic....

We can apply many of what folks are saying on this with the same crap we heard from SJW, just replace gay with "white male" and you are arguing the same nonsense.

 

[PeterGAF]

Your opinion is not FACT.
You don't seem to grasp that you do not get to dictate what is or isn't inherently transphobic. You do not get to speak for the entire transgender community and NO CDPR does not agree with you, they most likely made a business decision and deleted the tweet due to the twitter mob that no doubt had lots of outrage junkies like yourself attacking them.

I agree my opinion isn't fact. But it's not my opinion that the joke is inherrently transphobic it's just a fact. If you don't see that I don't know what to tell you.

I see enigma liked your post. Hey bud I'm still waiting for that explanation.

 

[Musky_Cheese]

No one should worry about this having impact on sales. The SJW's can't accomplish anything meaningful other than getting Chris Hardwick a vacation. They couldn't even get him fired ffs.

If that group mattered Trump wouldn't be US President, BFV sales wouldn't be down, Kingdom Come wouldn't have sold well. In fact SJW's contributed to the sales of Kingdom Come.

 

[CatLady]

I agree my opinion isn't fact. But it's not my opinion that the joke is inherrently transphobic it's just a fact. If you don't see that I don't know what to tell you.

I see enigma liked your post. Hey bud I'm still waiting for that explanation.

I do not believe the joke is inherently transphobic. Please prove that it is inherently transphobic with something more substantial than your opinion and your misguided belief you have the authority to speak on behalf the entire trans community.

 

[Clear]

You think people getting banned on a stupid little forum is more offensive than a transphobic joke? Says a lot about you.

Is this all newGAF is? Shitting on ResetERA?

Yes I do, and here's why:

First of all the whole charge of it being transphobic stems from it apparently being some sort of transphobic meme. I'm taking this from the rebooted thread on Resetera btw, I've never encountered it myself and I suspect I'm far from alone in that. Now considering how liberally (no pun intended) Res. calls everything and anything that diverges from their perspective Transphobic, Alt-Right, etc. I'm not sure how much credence to give that charge. It's always a dog-whistle to them, its routine for them to hyperbolically inflate the smallest infraction to the equivalent of burning crosses on PoC's lawns! I see little evidence to trust their judgement when their behaviour indicates that they are not reasonable on these subjects.

That charge dismissed, the Tweet is simply innocuous. Its not an exhortation to demean trans-folk, in the context I read it, it simply mocks the sort of "too woke" attitude where a simple misinterpretation (or mis-assumption specifically) becomes a micro-aggression. It is a response to a person commenting on an individual of presumably ambiguous gender, "Did you just assume their gender?! ", does not address the (maybe) trans-person, but the third party judging them.

So how are these words transphobic? They aren't! Replace "gender" with race, nationality, age, whatever, and its still a retort to a person passing judgement, not the subject.

But apparently its a meme... so off to the gulag with you comrade! Fucking stupid.

I should add in response to another poster who asked why should we care about the behaviour of Resetera, if they choose to be a safe space we should let them be that thing. To which my answer is safe for whom exactly? Its not like they'd never ban a trans-person, PoC, for wrong-think is it

I judge groups and individuals on how they act, not on the whether the rhetoric they espouse conforms to my values. As I've written before, tyranny imposed with good intentions is still tyranny. There are too many people on there who embrace the use of violence, for political ends, they rail against centrists and moderates with the same venom as the ultra hard-right, they are ruthlessly autocratic, paternalistic, humourless, sanctimonious, and incapable of self-reflection and improvement.

Why should I not disdain them? What's their saving grace? That they aren't Stormfront?

 

[B_Signal]

The obsession with reset era does make Gaf look like a racecar bed divorcee tbf

@ The Mod: buy me a drink first

 

[TLZ]

where am I pushing my opinions as fact? show me! You and Engima both need to actually back up your claims.

I have a very tough time following this. So accroding to you the "did you just assume my gender" joke makes fun of people saying "did you just assume my gender?"
...
what?!?!

I'm going to lay this out for you as simply as I can. When you say "did you just assume my gender?!?!" you are mocking the transgender community by feigning offense to being misidentified when you weren't actually. You are trivializing an actual issue and making fun of the transgender community over something they don't actually say.

The whole "I identify as an attack helicopter thing" is also offensive as it trivializes the seriousness of gender identity. It's inherently offensive.

And honestly regarding the last part of your post I'm not sure if you're even following this discussion. Why am I even giving you my time?

Oh fgs. Cry me a fucking river. Get over yourself already. God forbid I use the word him or her anymore because I might offend someone. Oh, I'm so sorry I come from a time we were taught differences between males and females at school, and the only "its" were non-humans. Forgive me, I blasphemed.

You still live among this society, and it's nothing wrong. If I don't believe in and identify with this new cry baby culture, I don't want to be forced into it. These people push 'social justice' (one-sided) so hard they fail at it. It's so one-sided and tyrannical. Social justice my ass. I don't believe they're doing it right.

 

[120v]

i really, really try to stay out of this stuff, but looking at the other forum just now ... *sensible chuckle*

i don't know how those gaffers made it through the day, that ship won't sail along happily much longer

 

[Thiagosc777]

Oh God, CDPR apologized! Haha

Well, one less game for me to buy. I am not a SJW and I buy more games than I have time to play them. They just made my choice easier.

 

[MrTroubleMaker]

that ship won't sail along happily much longer

Not to derail the thread, so I'll spoiler this.

Spoiler

"If everyone is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking." George S. Patton https://resetera.kiwifarms.net/graphs

 

[The Skull]

The obsession with reset era does make Gaf look like a racecar bed divorcee tbf

Dude it's the same over there.

 

[Enzo88]

You aprove Censorship then? You aprove that some groups decide what can and what can't be said on internet to defend some people with thin skin that gets offended at everything?

The meme isn't transphoic, it's not even mocking transgender people. It's making fun of people who take disproportionate issue with objectively non-issues, a caricature of outrage/offended/pc culture, hyperbolic to prove it's point. The irony that it would cause such a row is hopefully lost on no one. A transgender person is never going to respond to an innocent misidentification in such a way. Being transgender, gay, or a person of color is not a free pass to be an asshole.

Call out culture is getting out of hand. This was a mild non malicious joke that plays off a real term that gets thrown around frequently. No harm no foul. It's sad that harmless jokes can't be made without fear of retribution from online mobs.

Thank God there are still reasonable people around.

 

[Vtecomega]

Yeah, Its pretty disappointing to see them cave in and apologize. I was hoping they would have a spine and stick to their guns. There was no need to apologize for a witty and harmless joke.

SJW lunatics aren't interested in buying the game in the first place. They are a vocal minority that make it a career to sit around just waiting to be offended by something.

 

[Cosmogony]

no one appointed me anything I'm just telling you that the joke is inherently transphobic.

A phobia is an irrational fear. Transphobia would thus be an irrational fear of transgender people. So is it really your contention that that tweet's author has expressed an irrational fear of transgender people?

Really?
And you would claim that with a straight face?

I'm not the one who decided that believe me.

So it's been decided? By whom?
By the Institute of Perennial Offence-taking, which issues web certificates?

It's great if there is someone on this forum who is transgender who was not offended and is instead offended by other things, but they do not speak for everyone.

If only you'd display the same self-awareness. Oh, if only!

The joke is inherently making fun of gender identification

No, it is not. The expression is used widely, including some who are not Transgender.

But let me break it to you. There's never been a joke in the history of mankind which has elicited laughter at the expense of no one. Humour requires it. Now, would you kindly tell me which groups of humans are off-limits and which aren't? Or do you want to outright ban humour? And why is that they are not getting the same benevolent treatment you are extending to transgender people? What is your criterion?

and there's no way around it.

The way around it having a spine. A spine to behave according to one's principles and to reject never-ending attempts to turn reality into an Orwellian concentration camp run by the far left.

Again folks, CDPR agrees with me. They removed the tweet.

Not necessarily. The reasons for the removal remain unexplained.

Of all the companies, I expected CDPR to resist the urge to obey Political correctness the most. But being public, likely bearing stock prices in mind, they took the easiest route. I'd like to put it to them that even though caving in to people like yourself, who don't know what constitutes a phobia, may get them off the hook for now, if repeated ostensibly , it may also end up alienating some individuals in the sane regions the of political spectrum.

 

[Thiagosc777]

Yeah, Its pretty disappointing to see them cave in and apologize. I was hoping they would have a spine and stick to their guns. There was no need to apologize for a witty and harmless joke.

SJW lunatics aren't interested in buying the game in the first place. They are a vocal minority that make it a career to sit around just waiting to be offended by something.

I don't mind that much, because, honestly, I buy more games than I should. I am ok at my budgeting skills, but I could definitely do better and spend less money on these things.

There are far too many games to play. So, yes, now there is one less to worry about.

 

[EDMIX]

Oh God, CDPR apologized! Haha

Well, one less game for me to buy. I am not a SJW and I buy more games than I have time to play them. They just made my choice easier.

? So you not buying a game because a developer apologized? Do any of you even game for actual gameplay anymore or just based on what the developer believes ie religious, political etc?

smh, you folks take this junk way, way too seriously. I play games for fun, no other reason. What a creator believes or does is irrelevant to me if its not actually hurting the gameplay or quality.

You are basically the same as a SJW btw, ie buying a game or not buying a game solely based on what you think a developer believes.

sad.

 

[Cosmogony]

The obsession with reset era does make Gaf look like a racecar bed divorcee tbf

Your misrepresentation is not capable. of turnign fiction into fact.
Why would anyone pass on the opportunity to make fun of that which invites ridicule at every opportunity?

 

[MrMatt555]

Sorry but all a see is a certain group wishing to exercise absolute control over public speech; they get to determine what is acceptable and unacceptable, when offense must be taken, and that dissenting viewpoints must be expunged for the good of society. Its totalitarianism 101.

Resetera is important because it demonstrates on a microscopic scale the cultural future that these extremists want. Let me state again: 21 expulsions from that community not for making the joke, but for not being sufficiently outraged by it.

That is vastly more offensive to my political sensibilities than the content of the Tweet that started this off.

I got banned for saying it's not as bad as joking about fucking kids (which is what they all defended when the Gunn fallout Happened) complete. Double standard. And yes, both are terrible.

 

[DeepEnigma]

I got banned for saying it's not as bad as joking about fucking kids (which is what they all defended when the Gunn fallout Happened) complete. Double standard.

Their moral baseline is that of their party line and nothing more. So much false altruism and mental gymnastics with zero moral consistency.

 

[EDMIX]

I got banned for saying it's not as bad as joking about fucking kids (which is what they all defended when the Gunn fallout Happened) complete. Double standard.

ok...or they are both bad.

 

[MrMatt555]

ok...or they are both bad.

.

 

[Thiagosc777]

? So you not buying a game because a developer apologized? Do any of you even game for actual gameplay anymore or just based on what the developer believes ie religious, political etc?

Are you CDPR shareholder? Why do you care? It's my money and I can spend however I want.

Every time you buy a product you are telling the company who created it "I want more of this". And in turn this is going to incentivize them to create more products like that and continue acting the way they do. That's why I try to support companies who create good products and treat their consumers fairly.

I don't want to see companies caving to SJWs and changing their products to appease them. Therefore I won't support CDPR anymore.

I mean, I actually need to buy less games anyways. My backlog will be less full than it is now.

 

[Kreydo]

Can a mod change the thread title please?

It could mistaken people who actually seek relevant and interresting news/debate about video games.

 

[Vtecomega]

? So you not buying a game because a developer apologized? Do any of you even game for actual gameplay anymore or just based on what the developer believes ie religious, political etc?

smh, you folks take this junk way, way too seriously. I play games for fun, no other reason. What a creator believes or does is irrelevant to me if its not actually hurting the gameplay or quality.

You are basically the same as a SJW btw, ie buying a game or not buying a game solely based on what you think a developer believes.

sad.

Its the principle behind it. Someone needs to take a stand. Thiagosc777 is right on the money.

I don't mind that much, because, honestly, I buy more games than I should. I am ok at my budgeting skills, but I could definitely do better and spend less money on these things.

There are far too many games to play. So, yes, now there is one less to worry about.

I hear you, man. I am in the same boat.

 

[EDMIX]

Are you CDPR shareholder? Why do you care? It's my money and I can spend however I want.

Every time you buy a product you are telling the company who created it "I want more of this". And in turn this is going to incentivize them to create more products like that and continue acting the way they do. That's why I try to support companies who create good products and treat their consumers fairly.

I don't want to see companies caving to SJWs and changing their products to appease them. Therefore I won't support CDPR anymore.

I mean, I actually need to buy less games anyways. My backlog will be less full than it is now.

Who said you couldn't spend your money? lol

Simply that you are no different then a SJW, its the choice to not buy a game based on something that has nothing to do with the game. So if SJW's won't buy a game just because a white male is in it or this idea that its some "agenda", you are no different. If anything you should understand what SJW's feel if you are now only buying your games based on the belief of the developer vs the actual quality of the game.

Same idea.

Sooooo no, you are not only buying it based on "good products" your own words state

"Oh God, CDPR apologized! Haha

Well, one less game for me to buy."

Soooo I don't buy games based on if someone "apologized" I buy it solely on if its a good product.

You and SJW can have fun buying games based on apologies or if they are part of your same religion or politcal party or beliefs or how friendly they are to you.

I'll keep buying based on gameplay. =)

 

[EDMIX]

Its the principle behind it. Someone needs to take a stand.




I hear you, man. I am in the same boat.

lol I don't game to "take a stand", just for fun.

You and SJW can have fun with gaming for taking a stand and on twitter. Same crowd.

 

[EviLore]

The James Gunn one is worse because no matter how you slice it, child abuse isn't to be poked fun at..

Except isn't he a victim of childhood abuse? There's a very real possibility here that he copes with his trauma via his edgy comedic output. Deplatforming him as a comedian over edgy comedy you're outraged by could at worst lead him to suicide. You'd have blood on your hands.

Sliced it for ya.

 

[Thiagosc777]

its the choice to not buy a game based on something that has nothing to do with the game.

Whatever, dude. Go and buy two copies then, for compensating for the sale they won't get from me.

 

[EDMIX]

Whatever, dude. Go and buy two copies then, for compensating for the sale they won't get from me.

Yea, so basically you have a SJW arguement.

ie I buy games based on emotion, if the developer agrees with my views etc.

It was dumb when SJW argued it, its just as dumb when you argue it. Its the same argument. Attack a developer and not buy a game based on something that has nothing to actually do with the gameplay. So saying gay instead of white male doesn't change how dumb the argument is. It was a dumb argument that SJW made as it was attacking the developer based on their choice on why they create, ignoring their creative freedom to actually choose a white male as their choice of protagonist and choosing to not buy or play games based on demographic and this assumption of a "agenda" vs the actual gameplay.

Guess what? Its dumb argument regardless if you switch out gay to white male etc It was never about if it was a white guy, it was about that SJW ignored developer choice and buy games based on demographic and for reasons that are irrelevant to the actual game itself.

You are part of that same club. You if anyone should get what SJW do then. You are after all now buying games based on belief right? =) ironic...

 

[Thiagosc777]

Yea, so basically you have a SJW arguement.

It's just not worth arguing with you. Please ignore my posts.