Life is Strange 2 Episode 5 or this is what people mean when they do not want politics in their games

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Just finish watching it, damn this is the laziest writer of the year, the story is super boring and it could be told within 90 minutes, they try to make the choices matter but in a very weird and illogical way, basically all other characters existed in this game is useless. this is one of the worst game of the year. I think Dontnod will be defunct after they fail their next game tell me why, nobody would've care or even remember them when that news will come around probably fall 2020.
 
As someone who is not really a fan of DONTNOD games, and someone who is in favor of stronger border security.

What the hell does this even mean?
Life is Strange 2 Episode 5 or this is what people mean when they do not want politics in their games

1) It's DONTNOD's game, so it's technically their game.
2) Who are these "people" who are speaking for me and every single gamer?
3) This makes zero sense. Filmmakers can make political statements. Painters can make political statements. Musicians can make political statements. Authors of fiction can make political statements. Yet some think game designers cannot make political statements? Fucking what?

This sentiment will always be asinine to me. Even if I personally disagree with the argument or the ideology, I'd much rather people express themselves creatively on their own terms and within their own games, instead opting for political violence to get their points across. Even better if they can do it on their own terms with their own IPs, rather than hijacking established works and warping them to fit their agendas.
 
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Even if I personally disagree with the argument or the ideology, I'd much rather people express themselves creatively on their own terms and within their own games, instead opting for political violence to get their points across.
Brb going to commit political violence because I'm not making video games.
 
Just finish watching it, damn this is the laziest writer of the year, the story is super boring and it could be told within 90 minutes, they try to make the choices matter but in a very weird and illogical way, basically all other characters existed in this game is useless. this is one of the worst game of the year. I think Dontnod will be defunct after they fail their next game tell me why, nobody would've care or even remember them when that news will come around probably fall 2020.

My favorite part was when the cop reveals the entire story was pointless because if Sean didn't run they would have just ended up in the custody of their grandparents. Why Sean decided to run in the first place is one of the biggest plot holes in the game. DontNod spent the whole game tossing out different half-assed motivations. The best they could come up with is that Sean panicked because he thought the cops would seperate him & Daniel. Now that's confirmed not true and all Sean did was send him & Daniel on a cross country tour of periodic starvation and getting their asses kicked lol.

I still have hope (for whatever reason) that Twin Mirror can come out good. It is being directed and written by different people than LiS. As far as Tell Me Why, I'm still "wait and see" on it but I can't blame anyone for thinking it'll suck after how badly LiS 2 stunk up the joint.
 
So instead of creating a truly original story throughout, like Life is Strange 1, they resort to political bullcrap and push their agenda.
The media is full of that nonsense, so there is no need to have it follow me into the games i play to relax and escape this world.
 
Feel free to challenge my actual arguments if you take issue with anything I said, rather than straw manning me. Not interested in this pointless back and forth.
Maybe you should've worded what you said better. As evidenced by this thread there were plenty of people that like the series before it became DRUMPF BAD. MEXICANS GOOD. WYPIPO B WAYCIS. So what's the difference if it's a new ip or not? It had plenty of fans already.
 
Maybe you should've worded what you said better. As evidenced by this thread there were plenty of people that like the series before it became DRUMPF BAD. MEXICANS GOOD. WYPIPO B WAYCIS. So what's the difference if it's a new ip or not? It had plenty of fans already.
Maybe actually read my post. Did you even read my post? Those aren't even the arguments I'm making.
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Maybe actually read my post. Did you even read my post? Those aren't even the arguments I'm making.
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Even better if they can do it on their own terms with their own IPs, rather than hijacking established works and warping them to fit their agendas.
As evidenced by this thread there were plenty of people that like the series before it became DRUMPF BAD. MEXICANS GOOD. WYPIPO B WAYCIS. So what's the difference if it's a new ip or not? It had plenty of fans already. If it started off retarded that's one thing but it didn't.
 
Literally what's the point of your post then?
Literally Police here. Please provide the reason for your use of the word "literally" in this sentence. Unless you can provide ample justification for the aforementioned use of the word "literally" we will have no choice but to suspend you from using it for the next 48 to 72 hours.

Thank you for your time.
 
As evidenced by this thread there were plenty of people that like the series before it became DRUMPF BAD. MEXICANS GOOD. WYPIPO B WAYCIS. So what's the difference if it's a new ip or not? It had plenty of fans already. If it started off retarded that's one thing but it didn't.
Why is that relevant with what I said? DONTNOD games have always featured more of the left leaning sensibilities in their writing, It's even more evident in their most recently announced game. Simply because they decided to make a political statement in their own game that some people don't agree with , doesn't make a good argument that game designers shouldn't be making political statements at all. You can criticize it as you're doing now if you don't agree with the argument or the execution of it. I'm not here to tell you they're right or wrong.

I'm arguing against the point expressed by OP that "people don't want politics in their games" Yet for the last couple posts you've straw manned me and argued against points I never made. I don't care if you are of the orange man bad persuasion or if you're pro border wall, or even somewhere in the center. Game designers can and will make political statements if they're willing to. Much like any other creator with their medium of choice.
 
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DONTNOD games have always featured more of the left leaning sensibilities in their writing
Then they went full retard. You can be left leaning without being an idiot.

Simply because they decided to make a political statement in their own game that some people don't agree with , doesn't make a good argument that game designers shouldn't be making political statements at all.
I kinda agree with this but I kinda don't because people who make games are usually a bunch of fucking idiots and can't be subtle as evidenced by most modern games.

Yet for the last couple posts you've straw manned me and argued against points I never made.
I literally have no fucking idea what that made up word means. I'm sorry if I interpreted your post wrong but I don't know what the fuck strawmanning is. Sounds like something that would be said a lot on the political side of the forum.
 
It's like game devs aren't even trying to be subtle anymore. But I actually welcome this, it makes it easier to see which games to avoid. I play games to enjoy myself, not have some developer trying to lecture me or virtue signal. I hope the game industry crashes very soon. We can rebuild from it and take games back to where it was. Not art, not political microphones for developers. But fun and enjoyable. That's what games should be.
 
So I'm a tad bit confused. In your own comment you yourself admit most of the gaming community while just ignore it, while people who care will have something they consider important featured in a video game series they like. So even in a hypothetical scenario you can't come up with why this should matter to any of us who don't really care?
Huh?? I'm not making an argument for why people should or shouldn't care - I was making a jokey reference to something that happened last year with an indie game that had a trans twist. Literally no one cared about that game (can't remember the name, funnily enough) until some among the usual suspects (hence, the Kotaku and Polygon namedrops) began propping it up at GOTY discussions, solely because of said twist. And then once it lost at all GOTY nominations, it was quickly forgotten about again.
Also, the lazy ending I came up with is a jab at the hamfisted commentary recently displayed by Dontnod, which is the subject of this thread.
Understand now??
 
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There are secret clones no one knows about either. Triggered Snake and Privileged Snake

You forgot Cultural Appropriation Snake, YASSS QUEEEN Snake, and Representation Matters Snake (although this one comes with a 2x cost counter).

Revolutionary Revolutionary The game you're thinking about is JJ Macfield And The Island Of Memories (which as you'll recall is the game that triggered LKD so much she had a mini-breakdown).
 
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Leaving this here... You'll understand why it's relevant when/if you watch it...




And an older one, but, also relevant;

 
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It's like game devs aren't even trying to be subtle anymore. But I actually welcome this, it makes it easier to see which games to avoid. I play games to enjoy myself, not have some developer trying to lecture me or virtue signal. I hope the game industry crashes very soon. We can rebuild from it and take games back to where it was. Not art, not political microphones for developers. But fun and enjoyable. That's what games should be.

Agreed. If they're going to do this, please go as loud and obnoxious as possible with it. We can peacefully part ways, and I can play something else, and know not to care.
 
Leaving this here... You'll understand why it's relevant when/if you watch it...




And an older one, but, also relevant;


Meh, that video is just the run of the mill 'oh everything is political' used to brush off any criticism. I don't see how it's relevant here. The issue is not that the game includes politics. The issue is it's extremely one sided and depicts the people they obviously dislike as caricatures
 
I'm amused at some of the usual suspects piling in here with their outrage posts when it guaranteed they've never even played the game. Forum faggotry at its finest.
 
I guess whatever trump says, does, promotes is sacred here...
They have touch the holy wall...
Blasphemy.
In case you don't know trump is hated almost universally except in the USA .
It's a french developper , here we think he is an extremely rude and uneducated clown.
 
I guess whatever trump says, does, promotes is sacred here...
They have touch the holy wall...
Blasphemy.
In case you don't know trump is hated almost universally except in the USA .
It's a french developper , here we think he is an extremely rude and uneducated clown.
Yea, i'm gonna need some citations on that one because i'm Danish and i certainly do not think that
 
Yea, i'm gonna need some citations on that one because i'm Danish and i certainly do not think that

Universally hated, -zap- -spark-... load -re uNiVeRsAlLy hAtEd

 
Universally hated, -zap- -spark-... load -re uNiVeRsAlLy hAtEd


Umm...

The HK protesters are using the US flag as a symbol for freedom, not a symbol for their admiration of Trump.
 
Umm...

The HK protesters are using the US flag as a symbol for freedom, not a symbol for their admiration of Trump.

They are also holding up the Trump meme he tweeted, and were thanking him for signing the bill.

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Great voter turnout as well.


But carry on. Italy has shown admiration as well, but carry on.
 
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They are also holding up the Trump meme he tweeted, and were thanking him for signing the bill.

Great voter turnout as well.


But carry on. Italy has shown admiration as well, but carry on.

Ok, so HK protesters is admiring Trump. Any link for Italy? Any other countries?
 
Ok, so HK protesters is admiring Trump. Any link for Italy? Any other countries?

Sure thing

While the giant statue has impressed Trump's supporters, it highlights Italy's recent admiration and support of Trump's administration.
 
Sure thing

Does it only show the Italy administrations admire for Trump, is it the people of Italy too?

Edit: Also, after checking out it on on wiki, the parade is not a Trump exclusive admiration parade, it's a carnival where:

Its main characteristic is given by the parade of floats and masks, usually made of paper-pulp, depicting caricatures of popular people, such as politicians, showmen and sportsmen; the parade is held on the Viareggio avenue located alongside the local beach.

 
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I could reiterate that for the third time or conversely you could just read the thread.

You are implying they hypocritical because they claimed to want to avoid stereotypes, and your proof oh that is hand picked quotes from 2 characters from a multi hour game. Not to mention they aren't stereotypes. Stereotype isn't a portrayal of a reality you don't want to acknowledge.
 
Yea, i'm gonna need some citations on that one because i'm Danish and i certainly do not think that
Well I'm like him.
« People are saying... I heard it a lot, it's what a lot of persons think »

Trump is mocked in a lot of media.
Press, tv, web etc...
For HK , yeah some protesters like him.
Compared to what?
Their « president »?
I guess if I have to choose between Xiping or Putin and trump.
It would be Trump.

we have a lot of strikes and protests Against our government in France .
If it was trump, here it would be a civil war.
 
Well I'm like him.
« People are saying... I heard it a lot, it's what a lot of persons think »

Trump is mocked in a lot of media.
Press, tv, web etc...
For HK , yeah some protesters like him.
Compared to what?
Their « president »?
I guess if I have to choose between Xiping or Putin and trump.
It would be Trump.

we have a lot of strikes and protests Against our government in France .
If it was trump, here it would be a civil war.
Globalist elite media doesn't like nationalist president, more at 11
 
With trump going with the cheap bastard in north dakota I'm surprised the wall is that sturdy. I can probably just take the pickets out and use them at my house. Thanks for the free lumber.
 
Globalist elite media doesn't like nationalist president, more at 11
Well at least they exist.
. they are not always mega news corporations .
And if you are against him, you are an elite spreading fake news...
The propaganda works.

it's amazing how trump divides the political world.
 
You are implying they hypocritical because they claimed to want to avoid stereotypes, and your proof oh that is hand picked quotes from 2 characters from a multi hour game. Not to mention they aren't stereotypes. Stereotype isn't a portrayal of a reality you don't want to acknowledge.

lol So you actually don't know what a stereotype is. The mere existence of something in the real world doesn't mean its not a stereotype. If I made a story where every black character you meet is an violent gang member. Or every priest you meet is a child predator. Or every blonde is superficial with a room temp IQ. Or every conservative is an ignorant hick / racist. That would be me stereotyping that group. Pick any group be it racial, ideological or otherwise... The fact that you can point to real world examples of people who conform to a stereotype doesn't invalidate it as a stereotype.

You could literally defend the most racist fiction in the world with your argument. "lol but violent black people do exist! acknowledge the reality!" Learn how to engage with fiction.

Also I picked quotes from 5 different characters so you cant count either lmao. Am I supposed to go through the entire game and show every example in painstaking detail? It's a forum post not a PhD thesis, my dude. What I posted was absolutely sufficient enough to get my point across.
 
Well at least they exist.
. they are not always mega news corporations .
And if you are against him, you are an elite spreading fake news...
The propaganda works.

it's amazing how trump divides the political world.
That's some assumptions there. I think it's safe to say they spring from your own bias. Still waiting on those citations by the way. Or you could just admit you were talking out of your ass and we can move on
 
That's some assumptions there. I think it's safe to say they spring from your own bias. Still waiting on those citations by the way. Or you could just admit you were talking out of your ass and we can move on
I don't have the time or the envy to search for articles ( in multiple languages) I've read since he is in office.

i am certainly bias on the subject.
I admit it For sure,
So I am going back into my global elite fake news world.
 
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I don't have the time or the envy to search for articles ( in multiple languages) I've read since he is in office.

i am certainly bias on the subject.
I admit it For sure,
So I am going back into my global elite fake news world.
Articles you've read aren't sources anyway unless they link to statistics
 
Sure they are, lol.

It's a good opportunity to provide something that most of the thread hasn't seen, though.

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Bonus Jackspedicey eye roll.

So is this the part where we pretend that isn't a Trump slogan, or a major part of the political identity for him and his supporters?
As subtle as a sledgehammer to the cranium.
 
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