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There I said it.

You were never be the chosen one you entitled cunt. You trolled us all and i hope your new movie will bomb hardcore.

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What do these two pictures have in common?

THEY'RE EXACTLY THE SAME!





Now that my rant is over I can say that this thread was actually meant to be about discussing what big franchises ended in 2019 because this year many of my favourite franchises took a massive hit in their own way.

First it was Game of Thrones with their SHOCKINGLY AND UNFORGETABLE horrible last fucking season created by the biggest cunts in the whole universe (closely followed by Lord Commander RJ himself).

Then we have Marvel's Infinity Saga which ended PERFECTLY. This is the only actual good and positive ending for a franchise this year (from the big 3 I named). I doubt they can repeat the same going forward with Phase 4 but I think they already know that.

DISCLAIMER: Theres no SW9 spoilers in the text below, just an opinion how the pacing was like


And now we ALMOST (and I say almost because there was no light anymore to be seen in the galaxy) lost Star Wars, all because of the great troll from Rian fucking Johnson. JJ kind of saved this trilogy (half-ish) by sacrificing himself and doing a kinda rushy Star Wars 8.5-9. Wish he had more time to make 8 and 9 or split 9 into 2 parts like endgame or harry potter but NOPE. All we got was Sequel #1 that tried to play it safe and set up a new (albeit copied) story. then we had Sequel #2 which will not be named or discussed but must be forgotten (just maybe only watch the throne room scene and Rey on Ancho. Thats it. After all that we got Sequel #3 which felt like Star Wars on cocaine, a badly edited movie with lots and lots of pacing issues but again, RJ takes all the credit for fucking that up.

Good Job Hollywood.
 
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Knives Out already came out a few weeks ago and has made over 4x its budget.
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Didn't know that. I mean Rian Johnson isn't a bad director. Afterall he made one of the best television episode ever and his new movie looks interesting aswell but that should furthermore stat how much of a troll The Last Jedi was. Maybe he has some secret hate towards Star Wars idk
 
I agree.

Force Awakens > Rise of Skywalker >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Shit Jedi
 
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brap said:
All the new SW movies are shit. When will you people realize this?
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Even if TFA is bad, it was at least entertaining to a point. I didn't really notice it was bad until after the fact.

I just can't comprehend how anyone can find anything good about The Last Jedi though. We're not talking subjectivity when you say that movie is bad. The only possible way that movie can be considered good, is in a The Room, or Plan 9 from Outer Space sort of way, where the movie is so incompetently made, that it becomes entertaining to some people. To deny that it's not written like a fucking moron wrote it is a joke. Character assassinations, flaws in basic logic within the Star Wars universe, poor rehashes of what was in the other movies, ending plot points in a fucking middle chapter, leaving the planned conclusion no room to even build off of without jumping the shark.
 
Is that his actual name? Rian? Isn't that spelled wrong?
 
Loserwhosbetteroffdead said:
Even if TFA is bad, it was at least entertaining to a point. I didn't really notice it was bad until after the fact.

I just can't comprehend how anyone can find anything good about The Last Jedi though. We're not talking subjectivity when you say that movie is bad. The only possible way that movie can be considered good, is in a The Room, or Plan 9 from Outer Space sort of way, where the movie is so incompetently made, that it becomes entertaining to some people. To deny that it's not written like a fucking moron wrote it is a joke. Character assassinations, flaws in basic logic within the Star Wars universe, poor rehashes of what was in the other movies, ending plot points in a fucking middle chapter, leaving the planned conclusion no room to even build off of without jumping the shark.
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The special effects and cinematography are good. It's easily the best looking SW, dunno about RoS yet.
 
I'd feel sympathy for Rian Johnson if he didn't whine like a bitch online about how no one appreciated his 'vision.'

People didn't like your film dumbass. Get over it.
 
Comparing Rian Johnson to those two hacks is honestly so offensive. At least he came up with his own ideas for bullshit and never ran out of source material. Also there's more good Star Wars movies in the mainline episodes than there is good GoT seasons.

D&D are gonna do a Lovecraft movie next. Luckily there's a SHIT LOAD of content to steal from so they'll never run out of ideas.
 
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The special effects and cinematography are good. It's easily the best looking SW, dunno about RoS yet.
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You throw enough money at any movie, and of course it'll be pretty, and have decent special effects. Personally I didn't even care about the look of the film though. The set pieces and locations all felt so bland and uninspired, so I don't even agree with how "good" it looks. I personally find a lot of other films much more visually appealing. Even people who criticize TLJ often say the hyperspace jump part is a visual spectacle, when it did absolutely nothing for me. I might as well have been looking at a light show, because I had no emotional investment in anything going on with that movie, and the only joy I got out of that scene is that that dumbass Holdo got killed. Visually I actually found TFA more enjoyable.
 
I just watched The Last JedI. I jumped past all the scenes with the purple haired lesbian larping as a Captain. It's at least more interesting than The Force Awakens.
 
We're living in a reality where the largest entertainment corporation in the world acquired the arguably largest movie franchise ever, one that made a lot of money out of a very loyal and passionate fanbase that bought all sorts of toys and extended universe stuff, and in less than 5 years they managed to fuck it beyond any recognition out of sheer incompetence to the point that the only way to salvage anything is to claim that everything since Disney was non-canon. This man played an exceedingly large part in making that a reality. By doing so, he heavily impacted any plans Disney had for total cultural domination. Marvel isn't enough, especially not now after they retired all the characters people actually gave a shit about. Rian Johnson isn't just a soy boy like Cory Barlog. He's a weapon of mass destruction.

Can't forgive him though, not when he essentially killed the franchise before alpha chads like Kyle Katarn, Corran Horn, Wedge Antilles and so many others were given any legit shot to shine. Instead we got Finn and asian girl doing fuckall at a casino while Daisy Ridley and Adam Driver had a force powered skype call. Fuck you Rian.
 
RJ = darth vader. his tlj take basically destoryed the ST.

Kathleen = darth jar jar. the root cause for the SWU bomba.
People forgot she was supposed to handle the new SWU.

Let see if Fegie can save SWU.
 
Hado said:
There I said it.

You were never be the chosen one you entitled cunt. You trolled us all and i hope your new movie will bomb hardcore.

rian_johnson.jpg



gettyimages-520385136.jpg




What do these two pictures have in common?

THEY'RE EXACTLY THE SAME!





Now that my rant is over I can say that this thread was actually meant to be about discussing what big franchises ended in 2019 because this year many of my favourite franchises took a massive hit in their own way.

First it was Game of Thrones with their SHOCKINGLY AND UNFORGETABLE horrible last fucking season created by the biggest cunts in the whole universe (closely followed by Lord Commander RJ himself).

Then we have Marvel's Infinity Saga which ended PERFECTLY. This is the only actual good and positive ending for a franchise this year (from the big 3 I named). I doubt they can repeat the same going forward with Phase 4 but I think they already know that.

DISCLAIMER: Theres no SW9 spoilers in the text below, just an opinion how the pacing was like


And now we ALMOST (and I say almost because there was no light anymore to be seen in the galaxy) lost Star Wars, all because of the great troll from Rian fucking Johnson. JJ kind of saved this trilogy (half-ish) by sacrificing himself and doing a kinda rushy Star Wars 8.5-9. Wish he had more time to make 8 and 9 or split 9 into 2 parts like endgame or harry potter but NOPE. All we got was Sequel #1 that tried to play it safe and set up a new (albeit copied) story. then we had Sequel #2 which will not be named or discussed but must be forgotten (just maybe only watch the throne room scene and Rey on Ancho. Thats it. After all that we got Sequel #3 which felt like Star Wars on cocaine, a badly edited movie with lots and lots of pacing issues but again, RJ takes all the credit for fucking that up.

Good Job Hollywood.
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I just got back from the movie.

Heads are gonna role at Disney/Lucasfilm like Jango Fett in a Genosian arena after a fight with Mace Windu.
 
They offered him IX and he turned it down. Dude didn't have any plans for SW just wanted to leave it for the next guy. That's a coward move. If he gives J.J. shit then he's also petty and a hypocrite. J.J. gave him so much and he left him with nothing.

I'm going to avoid anything this man makes. He is a self important nihilist. He has nothing to say and his themes are all trite and have been done better already by other people.

The most pretentious filmmaker I can think of
 
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What is this forums obsession with Star Wars and giant bomb? Two things that suck.

New star wars is shitty. Move on with your life, they're movies made for kids to sell toys.
 
I just finished watching it, not the greatest Star Wars movie but it wasn't a horrible movie. I also enjoyed TLJ.

the title of this post reminds me of something we would see on the purple forum. Don't let the man trigger you.
 
caffeware said:
I agree.

Force Awakens > Rise of Skywalker >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Shit Jedi
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Fuck!!!! Force awakens is the Best movie!!!?? Is my most hated movie of Star Wars. Actually I regret to see it in cinema!! Fuck this trilogy. Fuck the NEW cast... FUCK KYLO REN!!!. Im stay with lucas movies and maybe rogué one and mandalorian
 
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Rian is kind of a tip-off. That's the kind of name a pretentious parent would give a kid. Rian, we're going to tell you how special you are your whole life, it will develop you in to just the kind of smarmy little shit a Rian was meant to be.
 
Is Rian's proposed Star Wars trilogy still going forward? I can't believe Disney would even consider letting him helm three new movies. His name is practically radioactive among the fandom, and he in turn has insulted the fanbase more than once.
 
Can we all stop fooling ourselves and just realize there hasnt been a good star wars movie made since the original trilogy. The easiest story to build off of, all you needed to do was take massive shakespearean tragedies and redemptions and write a massive space adventure around them and everyone including george has churned out disasters. First with the convoluted prequels with a giant misunderstanding of what makes a tragedy a tragedy..to the fanfiction sequels written by people who dont know how to write and with ridiculous agendas to flesh it out. If the Force is female...by the sequels interpretation of the force, females are a mess.


I watched the original trilogy with someone who had never seen them, knew nothing of the Luke Vader relationship....it was magic seeing them again after all the trash thats come out. There so much mysticism and adventure to them..even the shortcomings of Jedi have amazing scenes.

Then we get everything since...remember folks the secret to being a bore is to tell everything.
 
The force awakens was pretty good and trying to rewriting history because youtubers bitch for hate clicks doesnt change that,
but yeah rian fucked everything up but then again it takes a smooth brain to begin with to even hand him the movie.
 
I think it's hard for you younger people to imagine the impact Star Wars had on us little boys back in the early 80ies.

Them fucking up Luke (at last Han had a decent send off in the last movie, trying to save his soy riddled son) just for the sake of it was horrible to see.
I think RJ really hates Star Wars. He just wanted to tell his own shitty little story, and for that he needed to swiftly kill off anything JJ has setup in the first movie. TFA wasn't perfect (wished it hadnt copied ANH that much, but well, after the prequels some people needed to be reminded this is Star War) but it really had its moments.

I wish we could just erase TLJ and make two movies out of TRoS.
 
Loserwhosbetteroffdead said:
Even if TFA is bad, it was at least entertaining to a point. I didn't really notice it was bad until after the fact.

I just can't comprehend how anyone can find anything good about The Last Jedi though. We're not talking subjectivity when you say that movie is bad. The only possible way that movie can be considered good, is in a The Room, or Plan 9 from Outer Space sort of way, where the movie is so incompetently made, that it becomes entertaining to some people. To deny that it's not written like a fucking moron wrote it is a joke. Character assassinations, flaws in basic logic within the Star Wars universe, poor rehashes of what was in the other movies, ending plot points in a fucking middle chapter, leaving the planned conclusion no room to even build off of without jumping the shark.
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I never understood why The Room is considered bad. It is such a normal movie only brought out of it's mediocrity by Tommy's very extravagant acting. Just a normal plot about betrayal, love, doggie etc. When I watched it I found it entertaining and it has some really funny lines.

Stiflers Mom said:
I think it's hard for you younger people to imagine the impact Star Wars had on us little boys back in the early 80ies.

Them fucking up Luke (at last Han had a decent send off in the last movie, trying to save his soy riddled son) just for the sake of it was horrible to see.
I think RJ really hates Star Wars. He just wanted to tell his own shitty little story, and for that he needed to swiftly kill off anything JJ has setup in the first movie. TFA wasn't perfect (wished it hadnt copied ANH that much, but well, after the prequels some people needed to be reminded this is Star War) but it really had its moments.

I wish we could just erase TLJ and make two movies out of TRoS.
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100% agree. Removing TLJ from existence would help a ton. Still, TFA wasn't even as good as the prequels. So many unnecessary flaws it just boggles my mind.
 
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Jooxed said:
I just finished watching it, not the greatest Star Wars movie but it wasn't a horrible movie. I also enjoyed TLJ.

the title of this post reminds me of something we would see on the purple forum. Don't let the man trigger you.
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No, you would never see the title of this post on the other forum bc RJ is SjW god
 
Haha, I knew NeoGaf would be one of the place to shit on TLJ, by far the best SW film since Empire. Johnson's understanding of storytelling and directing is so much nuanced than Abrams, who's directing is equivalent of a sugar-loaded kid on a rollercoaster going:"Woooooo!". He didn't give us what we though we are going to get and I think it is great. He also made us re-evaluate the SW universe and its characters. He gave it complexity. And somebody here mentioned skipping "purple haired lesbian" scenes - the joke is on you, because, you know, never judge a book by its cover. By that logic, you should skip Yoda scenes in Empire, because it was a senile, silly, green puppet.
 
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Rubberwald said:
He also made us re-evaluate the SW universe
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yes instead of B&W morality tale, what if it was told by a nihilist with no values?
Rubberwald said:
And somebody here mentioned skipping "purple haired lesbian" scenes - the joke is on you, because, you know, never judge a book by its cover. By that logic, you should skip Yoda scenes in Empire, because it was a senile, silly, green puppet.
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say what you will about the prequels, but at least people weren't dragging the OT through the mud constantly to defend them
 
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yes instead of B&W morality tale, what if it was told by a nihilist with no values?
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People can dislike TLJ if they want, that's totally fine. But I've never got this take. The movie ends with a little kid being inspired by the story of Star Wars. Rey takes the Jedi texts with her. I took it to be pretty clear that TLJ is saying that the message of Star Wars definitely has value.
 
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yes instead of B&W morality tale, what if it was told by a nihilist with no values?
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How is it even possible to read TLJ as nihilistic and with no values? It is total opposite of that.

#Phonepunk# said:
say what you will about the prequels, but at least people weren't dragging the OT through the mud constantly to defend them
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I mentioned that, because it shows that Johnson actually understands SW better than most post-Disney SW creators and filmmakers.
 
the little kid is there to sell toys. "your little kid can play with SW toys too!" is all it says. he doesn't do anything. the rebels have left him in slavery. he's going to use the force to do his chores.

Rey taking the texts, who cares, the texts are a last minute addition. if they were so important why did Yoda burn them? ah he didn't. they are kind of pointless. Rey was already all about the force at the start of the movie, so it didn't really change anything there. "A pseudo Jedi will continue training in the force" is not a powerful new message
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How is it even possible to read TLJ as nihilistic and with no values? It is total opposite of that.
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it is a theme throughout the movie and across characters that both sides are more or less the same. this is where we see Luke, thinking Jedi and Sith are the same, equating the one that led to 1000 generations of peace and the other intergalactic genocide. DJ keeps this theme going, "they buy from the same people" the implication being they are both bad. the war profiteers, again, bad, cos they sell weapons. who to? bad guys and good guys. implicitly the good guys are bad. later on we see the FO giving DJ a ton of money and sending him off, apparently they are better at treating their colleagues than the Resistance, who is fighting internally the entire time and getting thousands of good guys killed because they won't tell people the plan. you know who else says "just do what we tell you"? bad guys. and at the very start of the film Rose is introduced incapacitating someone and stopping them from fleeing on an escape craft. you are not allowed to come and go as you please (contrast this to how they treated Han in ANH/ESB) basically like the FO, conscripted service. this is identical to what the bad guys do in the start of the very first film, stormtroopers trying to stop 3PO and R2 from fleeing on an escape pod has a direct parallel in our new "hero". i mean, "how is it possible" to miss all this?

the imagery is all there. the idea that Luke doesn't care and is made to care, big deal, if he is portrayed as not caring for a majority of the time. it doesn't matter if Rian spins some kind of half assed "theme", 2 hours of people saying "who cares" gets the same feeling across.
 
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Rubberwald said:
Haha, I knew NeoGaf would be one of the place to shit on TLJ, by far the best SW film since Empire. Johnson's understand of storytelling and directing is so much nuanced than Abrams, who's directing is equivalent of a sugar-loaded kid on a rollercoaster going:"Woooooo!". He didn't give us what we though we are going to get and I think it is great. He also made us re-evaluate the SW universe and its characters. He gave it complexity. And somebody here mentioned skipping "purple haired lesbian" scenes - the joke is on you, because, you know, never judge a book by its cover. By that logic, you should skip Yoda scenes in Empire, because it was a senile, silly, green puppet.
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Giving star wars complexity is like trying to fix add toppings to a pizza that's already cooked.

Speaking as a fan of star wars, it's not exactly complex and that's why people like it. It's a fun, easy to enjoy adventure. You can't try to change that in one movie with already established characters.

I don't think any fans that don't like TLJ are apposed to chnage (except for the deluded hardcore) but to do it for the reasons Johnson did doesn't make a lot of sense and actively makes the movies that follow it and came before it make little sense.

I mean even the actors at this point are starting to voice their displeasure.
 
Rubberwald said:
Haha, I knew NeoGaf would be one of the place to shit on TLJ, by far the best SW film since Empire. Johnson's understand of storytelling and directing is so much nuanced than Abrams, who's directing is equivalent of a sugar-loaded kid on a rollercoaster going:"Woooooo!". He didn't give us what we though we are going to get and I think it is great. He also made us re-evaluate the SW universe and its characters. He gave it complexity. And somebody here mentioned skipping "purple haired lesbian" scenes - the joke is on you, because, you know, never judge a book by its cover. By that logic, you should skip Yoda scenes in Empire, because it was a senile, silly, green puppet.
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I'd take a thousand senile green puppets over one singular purple haired woman whose name is Holdo though.
 
please tell me more about this "great movie" as you take a huge shit on Jim Henson and Frank Oz, two legends LOL
 
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#Phonepunk# said:
the little kid is there to sell toys. "your little kid can play with SW toys too!" is all it says. he doesn't do anything. the rebels have left him in slavery. he's going to use the force to do his chores.

Rey taking the texts, who cares, the texts are a last minute addition. if they were so important why did Yoda burn them? ah he didn't. they are kind of pointless. Rey was already all about the force at the start of the movie, so it didn't really change anything there. "A pseudo Jedi will continue training in the force" is not a powerful new message
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It's the final shot of the film. It's conveying the overall message, that's how these things work. It's like asking what happens after the door closes at the end of The Godfather. Sure if you want to you can take the view that nothing the film does means anything other than motivating people to buy toys. And it's Star Wars, so of course part of it is getting people to buy toys. The point is what that story then inspires that kid (and the audience) to go on to do. We don't need to actually see it. It's like how people were trying to guess who the kid must be related to or what he was going to do in the next film.

Yoda burnt the tree (not the texts, which Rey had already saved) because the overall message had already been passed on. He literally says this.

What makes the film nihilist to you? Edit: just read your earlier post about it. For me the film is examining the questionable aspects of the good side but is still saying the core of what's there is right and worth fighting for. Luke goes from "what's the point" to taking a stand at the end.
 
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Nikana said:
Giving star wars complexity is like trying to fix add toppings to a pizza that's already cooked.

Speaking as a fan of star wars, it's not exactly complex and that's why people like it. It's a fun, easy to enjoy adventure. You can't try to change that in one movie with already established characters.
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We are not going to get anywhere with this, but I don't agree. First of all, he was given to make a second movie in a new trilogy. The first one was for the better or worse, an introduction of characters and the main conflict. He basically had to raise stakes, conflict and give the new trilogy its unique identity. He did that. It's not exactly Shakespeare, but it sticks to its themes and keeps them close to its heart. There are way, way, way more people who liked the film than the ones who didn't, so clearly the movie spoke to the audience even though it wasn't a totally weightless timewasting entertainment. Entertainment and complexity are not mutually exclusive.

Nikana said:
I don't think any fans that don't like TLJ are apposed to chnage (except for the deluded hardcore) but to do it for the reasons Johnson did doesn't make a lot of sense and actively makes the movies that follow it and came before it make little sense.

I mean even the actors at this point are starting to voice their displeasure.
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It makes perfect sense to me, because I watched the film with an open mind and nothing in it contradicts with the established canon, if you are willing to read into what Johnson wanted to say with it . One thing I can say though: I think Disney people didn't manage the whole thing properly and they should have mapped out the whole trilogy before shooting Force Awakens.
 
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#Phonepunk# said:
please tell me more about this "great movie" as you take a huge shit on Jim Henson and Frank Oz, two legends LOL
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If this is aimed at me, then you clearly misunderstood. I'm talking about Luke judging Yoda by his looks and actions at the beginning of their meeting, similarly how Poe judges Holdo based on civilian clothes and hair. Both of them (Luke and Poe) turn out to be wrong.
 
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