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[Siri]

not all is lost if they get sick themselves the top must all be over 50 good odds the people will never have to deal with this level of stupid again

The fact that Iran's leaders have themselves gotten sick means nothing.

They've already demonstrated denial and incompetency on a level that's appalling. The entire world suffers because of countries like this.

 

[Mihos]

Alright, without overexaggerating - how dangerous is it really? Because I'm looking at numbers and a 1-2% death rate is about on par with a normal flu.

Like winning the lottery, but with a 98% chance you win 0$ when your number is checked.

 

[Captain Zyrain]

Alright, without overexaggerating - how dangerous is it really? Because I'm looking at numbers and a 1-2% death rate is about on par with a normal flu.

The Flu has a Case Fatality Rate of around 0.1%. 1-2% is 10 to 20 times worse than the regular Flu. In Wuhan it's closer to 3-4%.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

France getting new cases after so many days is freaking me out

 

[Deleted member 774430]

Alright, without overexaggerating - how dangerous is it really? Because I'm looking at numbers and a 1-2% death rate is about on par with a normal flu.

1) It's a bit more than a normal flu, but still not letal. Most people recover from it. The people who die, they do primarily for other reasons: lack of healthcare, other deadly diseases,...

2) It will continue to spread easily, because it's extremely easy to spread, as much as politicians like to say "we don't have such issues here" or "we'll close borders",... those statements are all BS so be prepared. (which means bring the hand sanitizer with you, do not shake hands, avoid bad habits such as sneezing on your hands and such,... rather than panicking as most people are doing right now)

 

[cryptoadam]

GAF im at the hospital hope i dont catch anything. Saw an asian guy wiping his brow in the elevator god i hope he wasnt infected.

 

[Sejan]

Alright, without overexaggerating - how dangerous is it really? Because I'm looking at numbers and a 1-2% death rate is about on par with a normal flu.

The numbers that I've seen for CFR (case fatality rate) for flu have put it at around 0.1%. COVID19 seems to have a CFR of 2-3% max. That means is 20-30 times more lethal than flu. In the case of both diseases, the rate of deaths heavily leans toward those that are very old or have additional heath problems. If you are youngish and/or outside of affected areas than your odds of surviving this are exceedingly high. If you are in an affected area and you are old or have other health issues, then you should be concerned. In either case, practicing good hygiene will substantially increase your likely proof of staying healthy.

Be prepared and practice good hygiene and you will almost assuredly be fine. Even if you aren't prepared and practice poor hygiene, the odds are still heavily in your favor that this won't affect you at this time. Panicking will make the situation worse just as much as not taking it seriously.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

New page new numbers new countries (new rule if deaths are over 10 you are officially Chinese like Chairman Pickles)

OTHER PLACES	Cases	Deaths	Notes	Links
Diamond Princess	691	4	35 serious, 10 recovered	Source
South Korea	977	11	6 critical, 22 recovered	Source
Italy	322	11	19 serious, 1 recovered	Source
Japan	161*	1	7 serious, 23 recovered	Source
Iran	95	15		Source
Singapore	91	0	7 critical, 58 recovered	Source
Hong Kong	85	2	4 critical, 2 serious, 18 recovered	Source
United States	57	0	6 recovered
Thailand	37	0	2 serious, 15 recovered	Source
Taiwan	31	1	5 recovered	Source
Malaysia	22	0	17 recovered	Source
Australia	22	0	11 recovered	Source
Germany	16	0	14 recovered	Source
Vietnam	16	0	16 recovered	Source
UAE	13	0	2 serious, 3 recovered	Source
United Kingdom	13	0	8 recovered	Source
France	14	1	11 recovered	Source
Canada	11	0	3 recovered	Source
Macau	10	0	5 recovered	Source
Bahrain	23	0		Source
Kuwait	9	0		Source
Iraq	5	0		Source
Philippines	3	1	2 recovered	Source
India	3	0	3 recovered	Source
Russia	2	0	2 recovered	Source
Spain	5	0	2 recovered	Source
Oman	4	0		Source
Nepal	1	0	1 recovered	Source
Cambodia	1	0	1 recovered	Source
Sri Lanka	1	0	1 recovered	Source
Finland	1	0	1 recovered	Source
Sweden	1	0		Source
Belgium	1	0	1 recovered	Source
Egypt	1	0	1 recovered	Source
Israel	2	0		Source
Lebanon	1	0		Source
Afghanistan	1	0		Source
Austria	2	0		Source
Croatia	1	0		Source
Switzerland	1	0		Source
TOTAL	2,751	47	86 serious/critical

 

[WindomURL]

GAF im at the hospital hope i dont catch anything. Saw an asian guy wiping his brow in the elevator god i hope he wasnt infected.

F


(bigot)

 

[GAMETA]

Alright, without overexaggerating - how dangerous is it really? Because I'm looking at numbers and a 1-2% death rate is about on par with a normal flu.

Biggest problem and concern is contagion rate. It spreads like crazy.

2% is when treated. 14-16% when left untreated.

Let it spread and you'll have more sick people than the health system can take, meaning mortality will rise significantly.

Then there's the economic hit, etc, etc, etc.

By the way, 2% of 7 billion people is 140 million, it's still a lot of people.

 

[ExpandKong]

Biggest problem and concern is contagion rate. It spreads like crazy.

2% is when treated. 14-16% when left untreated.

Let it spread and you'll have more sick people than the health system can take, meaning mortality will rise significantly.

Then there's the economic hit, etc, etc, etc.

By the way, 2% of 7 billion people is 140 million, it's still a lot of people.

"just a flu bro"

 

[demigod]

GAF im at the hospital hope i dont catch anything. Saw an asian guy wiping his brow in the elevator god i hope he wasnt infected.

Did he look like this guy?

 

[Captain Zyrain]

Iran is troubling because we should be seeing around *800* cases to have 15 deaths already (and really much more).

15 out of 95 cases is almost a 16% CFR which would be horrible.

 

[JordanN]

The 2020 Olympics is at risk of being cancelled.

IOC Member: 2020 Tokyo Olympics Could Be Canceled Amid Coronavirus Outbreak

The 2020 Tokyo Olympics are more likely to be canceled than moved or rescheduled if by late May the coronavirus outbreak is deemed too dangerous to go ahead with the original schedule, according to International Olympic Committee member Dick Pound...

bleacherreport.com

Keep in mind, the last time an Olympic Game was cancelled was because of two World Wars.

And ironically, Japan was suppose to host it.

The 1940 Summer Olympics, officially known as the Games of the XII Olympiad, were originally scheduled to be held from September 21 to October 6, 1940, in Tokyo, Japan. They were rescheduled for Helsinki, Finland, to be held from July 20 to August 4, 1940, but were ultimately canceled due to the outbreak of World War II. Helsinki eventually hosted the 1952 Summer Olympics and Tokyo the 1964 Summer Olympics.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Iran is troubling because we should be seeing around *800* cases to have 15 deaths already (and really much more).

15 out of 95 cases is almost a 16% CFR which would be horrible.

you know those numbers are wrong. Someone said 50 deaths he was in leadership or something
these numbers are worst than China

we should all praise China now because Iran is showing us how shit numbers can be

 

[Phunkydiabetic]

The numbers that I've seen for CFR (case fatality rate) for flu have put it at around 0.1%. COVID19 seems to have a CFR of 2-3% max. That means is 20-30 times more lethal than flu. In the case of both diseases, the rate of deaths heavily leans toward those that are very old or have additional heath problems. If you are youngish and/or outside of affected areas than your odds of surviving this are exceedingly high. If you are in an affected area and you are old or have other health issues, then you should be concerned. In either case, practicing good hygiene will substantially increase your likely proof of staying healthy.

Be prepared and practice good hygiene and you will almost assuredly be fine. Even if you aren't prepared and practice poor hygiene, the odds are still heavily in your favor that this won't affect you at this time. Panicking will make the situation worse just as much as not taking it seriously.

Dont get me wrong, this is a serious virus but honestly at this point people should have a greater fear of the economic fallout from all of this.

 

[cryptoadam]

Did he look like this guy?

The resemblance is uncanny.

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

Did he look like this guy?

 

[Smiles and Cries]

The 2020 Olympics is at risk of being cancelled.

IOC Member: 2020 Tokyo Olympics Could Be Canceled Amid Coronavirus Outbreak

The 2020 Tokyo Olympics are more likely to be canceled than moved or rescheduled if by late May the coronavirus outbreak is deemed too dangerous to go ahead with the original schedule, according to International Olympic Committee member Dick Pound...

bleacherreport.com

Keep in mind, the last time an Olympic Game was cancelled was because of two World Wars.

Gonna need to buy a physical copy of Mario and Sonic 2020 collector's item

sad though wanted to see this but the fear around it is justified it would spread this to every nation

 

[Captain Zyrain]

If you come for my coke, you best not miss.

 

[demigod]

Not sure if this is known but my wife said the Cambodian General(I'm guessing she meant Prime Minister) that greeted people from the Cruise is now infected. I can't find any news about it though.

 

[Wwg1wga]

the reason behind their lies about the real scale of coronavirus outbreak. :

Global recession, a European banking crisis and a crash in the U.S. capital markets will produce a global economic collapse which will almost certainly overwhelm any attempts—massive and coordinated as they may be—to turn the tide by over-stretched central banks and over-indebted governments.
This is, why the coronavirus outbreak should be treated for what it is: a potential harbinger of human and economic calamity.

Coronavirus Will Trigger an Epic Stock Market Crash, Warns 'Godfather' Analyst.

The Wealth Bubble Popped in Q1. An Epic Stock Market Crash Will Follow

Clear evidence showing the wealth bubble popped in Q1 suggests this rally is going to end with an epic stock market crash.

www.ccn.com

Will The Coronavirus Outbreak Cause A Massive Stock Market Crash? | Foreclosure-gate | Before It's News

Could it be possible that this coronavirus outbreak will be the trigger that finally bursts the biggest stock market bubble in U.S. history? As I have discussed previously, stock prices in the United States were the most overvalued that they have ever been during the month of January, and our...

beforeitsnews.com

 

[xrnzaaas]

If you come for my coke, you best not miss.

Oh noes, they will have to slash their enormous profits by having to use normal sugar for a change.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

If you come for my coke, you best not miss.

NO NO NO NO NO HELLS NO! ATLANTA I WILL NOT STAND FOR THIS!

I need my daily cokes

 

[Butz]

Biggest problem and concern is contagion rate. It spreads like crazy.

2% is when treated. 14-16% when left untreated.

Let it spread and you'll have more sick people than the health system can take, meaning mortality will rise significantly.

Then there's the economic hit, etc, etc, etc.

By the way, 2% of 7 billion people is 140 million, it's still a lot of people.

Yeah so far there's less than 2k infected outside of China rn and ppl already talking about every single person on the planet getting infected.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Oh noes, they will have to slash their enormous profits by having to use normal sugar for a change.

I'm fine with real sugar

real sugar cokes + animal crossing + 390 days of quarantine = I'm fine with this

 

[Captain Zyrain]

NASDAQ now negative for the year
S&P 500 down 3%
10 year treasury yield down to record lows..

The economic issues will dovetail with people actually getting sick, and it'll make both worse.

 

[SpartanN92]

Is there any data on the mortality rate for infants? I keep hearing that the elderly are at greater risk, but I've heard nothing about children <1 year.

Edit: First time dad of a 6 month old. I live in Kentucky so I'm not too worried but it still crosses my mind several times a day.

 

[Captain Zyrain]

Is there any data on the mortality rate for infants? I keep hearing that the elderly are at greater risk, but I've heard nothing about children <1 year.

Everything I've seen (and I's seens a lots) says those under 10 are actually quite safe. Really I'd say anything under 40 should be fine, outside of other issues (lack of healthcare, preexisting conditions, etc).

I think we've only seen a few kids get sick and die, officially.

 

[SpartanN92]

Everything I've seen (and I's seens a lots) says those under 10 are actually quite safe. Really I'd say anything under 40 should be fine, outside of other issues (lack of healthcare, preexisting conditions, etc).

I think we've only seen a few kids get sick and die, officially.

Thank you!

 

[Smiles and Cries]

NASDAQ now negative for the year
S&P 500 down 3%
10 year treasury yield down to record lows..

The economic issues will dovetail with people actually getting sick, and it'll make both worse.

Trump says we fine. But if we are not now we know what to blame it on.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Oh Uh

 

[GAMETA]

Yeah so far there's less than 2k infected outside of China rn and ppl already talking about every single person on the planet getting infected.

Yeah, because the infection rate is decreasing, right? Sure.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

2 countries in Africa is 2 too many

 

[Captain Zyrain]

4.8% CFR in this study (not final, not peer reviewed, but just a glimpse)

 

[ValiantTraveler]

Oh Uh

Damn. I'm expecting the first case in Morocco any day now. I started stocking food but can't find respiratory masks online.

The people saying this virus is like flu, the issue is not just about the virus but supply chains. Once panic kicks in, grocery stores and supermarkets will run out of food. Even if the government delivers rations, they'll have to wait in line for a long time and will riot when they get too hungry. Hunger will make society descend into madness. This is especially likely in third world countries who are less organized and equipped to deal with this scenario.

 

[Butz]

Yeah, because the infection rate is decreasing, right? Sure.

Because not everyone on this planet is going to be infected.

 

[Kadayi]

The Flu has a Case Fatality Rate of around 0.1%. 1-2% is 10 to 20 times worse than the regular Flu. In Wuhan it's closer to 3-4%.

And that's with medical treatment. People aren't factoring that aspect in. Without it I suspect it would be a lot higher.

The inherent problem with using a raw percentage though is that people struggle to understand the numbers. 3-4% roughly translates to 1 in every 29 people or to use a couple of population figures with London alone you'd be looking at around 315K dead (9 million populace) and the UK as a whole would be around 2.4 million (62.5 million).

The only reason China has been able to keep a lid on things is down to what amounts to a state of martial law. I just don't think many other countries, especially in Europe of Africa are remotely capable of keeping a handle on this.

I was supposed to be meeting up with some friends for a shindig in London next month but given the news about Italy etc, I've noped out of that because I fully expect London will become compromised within the month and albeit I dare say I'd probably be fine I'd rather not become a carrier and impact other peoples lives. I don't need that shit on my conscience.

 

[Sejan]

Is there any data on the mortality rate for infants? I keep hearing that the elderly are at greater risk, but I've heard nothing about children <1 year.

Edit: First time dad of a 6 month old. I live in Kentucky so I'm not too worried but it still crosses my mind several times a day.

In the study of tens f thousands of cases from China, they didn't actually report a single death for children under 10. I have an 18 month old and I feel pretty safe with him. Be prepared, practice good hygiene, and don't panic.

 

[synchronicity]

CDC live-stream saying they expect community transmission in the USA, not if but when.

Of course. Why would we have special immunity. Because of Trump?

 

[eot]

Fuck, it hit my country. I have a lot of PTO I could burn to ride this out in the countryside but I'm not sure it's worth it. Started stocking up on stuff that doesn't spoil tho. Better safe than sorry.

 

[GAMETA]

Because not everyone on this planet is going to be infected.

Of course not, but doesn't mean 2% can't be significant considering the disease can spread fast.

And again, 2% only among treated patients. Untreated mortality is much higher.

 

[synchronicity]

NASDAQ now negative for the year
S&P 500 down 3%
10 year treasury yield down to record lows..

The economic issues will dovetail with people actually getting sick, and it'll make both worse.

V for Virus.

 

[Siri]

Iran is the first big threat here, because all the other countries are reacting, whereas Iran, being in denial, is doing next to nothing.

 

[Captain Zyrain]

And that's with medical treatment. People aren't factoring that aspect in. Without it I suspect it would be a lot higher.

The inherent problem with using a raw percentage though is that people struggle to understand the numbers. 3-4% roughly translates to 1 in every 29 people or to use a couple of population figures with London alone you'd be looking at around 315K dead (9 million populace) and the UK as a whole would be around 2.4 million (62.5 million).

The only reason China has been able to keep a lid on things is down to what amounts to a state of martial law. I just don't think many other countries, especially in Europe of Africa are remotely capable of keeping a handle on this.

I was supposed to be meeting up with some friends for a shindig in London next month but given the news about Italy etc, I've noped out of that because I fully expect London will become compromised within the month and albeit I dare say I'd probably be fine I'd rather not become a carrier and impact other peoples lives. I don't need that shit on my conscience.

You CAN make the case either way, so the truth and actuality is probably somewhere in the middle. Will all 9 million in London get it? No, probably not. So the CFR would only be a % of the % that actually get it in London.

*IF* we're taking China at it's word, and only 64,786 out of the 58,500,000 people in Hubei Province came down with the disease, that's only a 0.01% chance of even catching it, and 3% CFR makes catching it AND dying from it a MINUSCULE chance in the grand scheme of things. BUT, this is assuming the numbers are correct, and it doesn't really factor in outbreak equations, where perhaps 1 part of town (YOUR PART OF TOWN!) is hardest hit, while other areas might have no one sick.

Personally I'm still at the twiddling my thumbs stage of panic. I'm not super old, I don't have preexisting conditions, and don't live or work in a place with a high traffic volume of people... but I absolutely keeping an eye on things to see how this plays out.

 

[Ornlu]

Because not everyone on this planet is going to be infected.

Of course not, but doesn't mean 2% can't be significant considering the disease can spread fast.

And again, 2% only among treated patients. Untreated mortality is much higher.

Ok, riddle me this...is there anyone in the entire developed world who has gone through a full life without getting the flu? Barring vaccines, that number is going to be pretty small, due to how connected the world is now.

Given that premise, we have a virus that is roughly 10x as fatal as the normal flu, and no current vaccine ready for mass-market deployment....wouldn't it be logical that within a year it will have made its' way around the (very connected) globe, and kill a lot of people?

 

[Chaplain]

Here is one of the best internet websites for realtime COVID-19 stats provided by Johns Hopkins University:

• Coronavirus COVID-19 global cases (Johns Hopkins)

Other helpful links:

• Novel coronavirus (COVID-19) outbreak timeline map (HealthMap)
• Novel coronavirus infection map (University of Washington)
• Novel coronavirus (COVID-19) situation dashboard (WHO)
• Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) in the US (CDC)
• Geographical distribution of COVID-19 cases worldwide (ECDC)
• Coronavirus: the new disease Covid-19 explained (South China Morning Post)
• Mapping the Wuhan coronavirus outbreak (Esri StoryMaps)

 

[Butz]

Ok, riddle me this...is there anyone in the entire developed world who has gone through a full life without getting the flu? Barring vaccines, that number is going to be pretty small, due to how connected the world is now.

Given that premise, we have a virus that is roughly 10x as fatal as the normal flu, and no current vaccine ready for mass-market deployment....wouldn't it be logical that within a year it will have made its' way around the (very connected) globe, and kill a lot of people?

Yeah guess I'm gonna panick now we're all going to die earth is doomed

 

[Captain Zyrain]

Here is one of the best internet websites for realtime COVID-19 stats provided by Johns Hopkins University:

• Coronavirus COVID-19 global cases (Johns Hopkins)

Other helpful links:

• Novel coronavirus (COVID-19) outbreak timeline map (HealthMap)
• Novel coronavirus infection map (University of Washington)
• Novel coronavirus (COVID-19) situation dashboard (WHO)
• Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) in the US (CDC)
• Geographical distribution of COVID-19 cases worldwide (ECDC)
• Coronavirus: the new disease Covid-19 explained (South China Morning Post)
• Mapping the Wuhan coronavirus outbreak (Esri StoryMaps)

I'd also throw in BNO

Tracking coronavirus: Map, data and timeline

The table below shows cases of coronavirus (officially known as SARS-CoV-2, COVID-19, or 2019-nCoV) around the world. Each figure is verified by our team through local health departments or local media. A distribution map and a timeline with a list of recent updates can be found below the table...

bnonews.com

They source most everything and update #s right away. The John Hopkins takes a little bit sometimes.

I think BNO is like 75% of the tweets referenced in this thread since they're so timely.

 

[ExpandKong]

Yeah guess I'm gonna panick now we're all going to die earth is doomed

Don't you have something better to do? Go lick a doorknob.