Mask Efficacy |OT| Wuhan!! Got You All In Check

Status
Not open for further replies.
If it can be proven it was created by the CCP ... everything every nation can do to cripple china's economy should be a priority once we come out of this. Make them suffer.

You know, I'm no supporter of the CCP, but the irony of this sort of thing is too much. We exported and *sustained* our economy on the cheap labor of China.

Additionally, if we're to live in a global community (I don't think we should, but that's another debate.), we can't cripple an economy as big as China's without negatively impacting us all. There's too much interdependence in a global society to purposely cause significant harm to any member, especially one the size of China.
 
Italy detail update for 4/3:


Total deaths listed: 13241 (+691)

They started breaking this down even further for young people.

0-9: 1 (New counting) - <0.1%
10-19: 0 (New counting
20-29: 6 (New counting) <0.1%
30-39: 30 - x1.03 (+1) - 0.2%
40-49: 114 - x1.04 (+4) - 0.8%
50-59: 506 - x1.06 (+27) - 4%
60-69: 1520 - x1.05 (+72) - 11%
70-79: 4412 - x1.05 (+216) - 33%
80-89: 5304 - x1.05 (+275) - 40%
90+: 1347 - x1.08 (+96) - 10%
Unknown: 1 (New counting) - <0.1%


Seems like more of the same. Interesting (and sad) that they need to break down the age groups more. Hopefully we don't see more children showing up in the reports.

Took the weekend off, lets see how things have changed over a couple of days in Italy.

Total deaths listed: 14,860 (+1619)

They started breaking this down even further for young people.

0-9: 1 - x0.00 (+0)
10-19: 0 - x0.00 (+0)
20-29: 7 - x1.16 (+1)
30-39: 34 - x1.13 (+4)
40-49: 136 - x1.19 (+22)
50-59: 506 - x1.12 (+61)
60-69: 1724- x1.13 (+204)
70-79: 4909 - x1.11 (+497)
80-89: 5956 - x1.12 (+652)
90+: 1525 - x1.13 (+178)
Unknown: 1 - x0.00 (+0)


The 40-year age group grew at the highest percentage, but numbers wise the 80-year bracket is still tops in total and daily growth.

Interesting how it spikes so much from 50's to 60's. Over 3x deadlier, and almost 10x deadlier going from 50's to 70's. The last numbers I saw (around 3/30) had total number of cases per those age groups roughly even (within 1000 cases).
 
GOP Rep Authors Bill to Allow Prosecution of China over COVID-19 Outbreak

Rep. Lance Gooden introduced the Stop COVID Act, designed to give the Department of Justice the ability to hold the Chinese Communist Party responsible for the novel coronavirus if it is proved they manufactured the deadly disease.


You know, I'm no supporter of the CCP, but the irony of this sort of thing is too much. We exported and *sustained* our economy on the cheap labor of China.

Pretty much this. US govt knows it needs CCP's authoritarian regime, so that US economy can gain from CCP exploiting Chinese people.

This congressman is literally using his gullible voters' hate against China to get personal gain. In the end, US govt will likely do nothing essential to CCP (maybe continue this superficial trade war).
 
Took the weekend off, lets see how things have changed over a couple of days in Italy.

Total deaths listed: 14,860 (+1619)

They started breaking this down even further for young people.

0-9: 1 - x0.00 (+0)
10-19: 0 - x0.00 (+0)
20-29: 7 - x1.16 (+1)
30-39: 34 - x1.13 (+4)
40-49: 136 - x1.19 (+22)
50-59: 506 - x1.12 (+61)
60-69: 1724- x1.13 (+204)
70-79: 4909 - x1.11 (+497)
80-89: 5956 - x1.12 (+652)
90+: 1525 - x1.13 (+178)
Unknown: 1 - x0.00 (+0)


The 40-year age group grew at the highest percentage, but numbers wise the 80-year bracket is still tops in total and daily growth.

Interesting how it spikes so much from 50's to 60's. Over 3x deadlier, and almost 10x deadlier going from 50's to 70's. The last numbers I saw (around 3/30) had total number of cases per those age groups roughly even (within 1000 cases).

Do they have hospitlization numbers?

If the 60 and under group are going to hospitals and ICU's wonder why they are surviving at such a higher rate (outside of the obvious they are younger/healthier).
 


Doubling rates are basically dX/dt*1/X, where X is the number of infections and t is days. As you can see, as the number of infections rise, it's easier to get long doubling times. The doubling time can decline as the actual rate (dX/dt) is rising.

Uh, South Korea?
 
Every? Does anybody know how many patients he treated? Wasn't New York already using hydroxychloroquine since last week for trials? They had acquired 70,000 doses. Hopefully, the results will also come back positive.



From my understanding NY is doing a trial of 1100 patients. That started about 7-10 days ago.

I also think Cuomo blocked using HQ by doctors if I am not mistaken.
 
Every? Does anybody know how many patients he treated? Wasn't New York already using hydroxychloroquine since last week for trials? They had acquired 70,000 doses. Hopefully, the results will also come back positive.



All these trials seem scattershot, unfortunately. Some retired pharma researchers I know think this is a 1-2-3 punch of chloroquine, zinc, and azithromycin:
  1. The chloroquine acts as an ionophore and carries zinc across cell membranes AND disrupts cell metabolism and viral replication
  2. The zinc inhibits viral replication
  3. The azithromycin kills any opportunistic infections resulting from the lung damage from the viral infection
But few mention zinc and some don't mention the z-packs.
 
All these trials seem scattershot, unfortunately. Some retired pharma researchers I know think this is a 1-2-3 punch of chloroquine, zinc, and azithromycin:
  1. The chloroquine acts as an ionophore and carries zinc across cell membranes AND disrupts cell metabolism and viral replication
  2. The zinc inhibits viral replication
  3. The azithromycin kills any opportunistic infections resulting from the lung damage from the viral infection
But few mention zinc and some don't mention the z-packs.

My Nurse was talking about it almost 2 months ago. I remember her runing into my dotors office and saying we have the drug they are going to test to cure COVID. I never put 2 and 2 together until I read that HQ is used by RA's.

I can't wait till CNN finds out so they can blame someone drinking gasoline on her.
 


This is not directed towards you, but I always think it's funny how so many like to attribute the successes and ills of life to the current president. He's a single human being. No matter what power he has (and I'd argue it's not much at all) regarding policy, etc, to reduce the state of affairs in life to a single point/person (or even political party) is beyond absurd. I know it's natural to look for a savior or a villain for many people, and the president is an easy lightning rod for those who don't want to make a deep examination of things, but you can't reduce any effect to a singular cause - good or bad.
 
Do they have hospitlization numbers?

If the 60 and under group are going to hospitals and ICU's wonder why they are surviving at such a higher rate (outside of the obvious they are younger/healthier).

The numbers for that seems delayed, the last I found was for 3/30:

90+: 3,573
80-89: 14,186
70-79: 17,464
60-69: 16,395
50-59: 18,678
40-49: 12,084

So 50's 60's and 70's are all pretty close, 40 and 80's a bit lower.

Ugh. CA update:


It seems (as a SoCal native) to be really mild here, but maybe it's decieving?
 
Oh, wow, missed this one:



On 8th of March Spain was at 646 known infected.


Go Woke, Get Choked (on your lung fluids)

I really don't get why these countries put ideology and politics over basic safety. Italians with hug a Chinese day, Spain with feminist marches, Iran doing their election immediately after cases started. . .
 
Go Woke, Get Choked (on your lung fluids)

I really don't get why these countries put ideology and politics over basic safety. Italians with hug a Chinese day, Spain with feminist marches, Iran doing their election immediately after cases started. . .

Truth is they were taking it seriously, it was only Trump who wasn't because of his PROFEETS. Your mistake is thinking these were decisions taking by those countries leaders, it wasn't, it was Trump all along. Remember he said it would go away and its like the flu so every other countries same reaction is actually only on him.
 
aT6Mera.jpg


Just wondering what kind of animals are hanging up back there in Chun Li's wet market stage.
 
Truth is they were taking it seriously, it was only Trump who wasn't because of his PROFEETS. Your mistake is thinking these were decisions taking by those countries leaders, it wasn't, it was Trump all along. Remember he said it would go away and its like the flu so every other countries same reaction is actually only on him.
Not really. Trump erased Americas leadership position long before COVID-19. The non response from the other governments was on them. Not him. His terrible handling of the situation should be used as an example of how not to do things.
 
Not really. Trump erased Americas leadership position long before COVID-19. The non response from the other governments was on them. Not him. His terrible handling of the situation should be used as an example of how not to do things.

I think the whole world will learn from their mistakes, and hopefully we will take China to task for the second time they let a virus out of a lab.

When we have the power of hindsight we will probably look back and realize every single response to this was completely wrong and caused more harm than good. But we gotta wait for the future for that.
 
You don't go to hospital with this unless it is bad.
It's precautionary. Already confirmed.
If it is precautionary a doctor comes to you. If you are in need of hospital equipment you go to them. No country leader would go to hospital at this point unless necessary. It is political suicide.
Ok, well I guess you know more about it than the PM's own health advisor, who announced he'd gone in for precautionary tests due to symptoms persisting for over 10 days.

I can't stand the guy, or his politics, but get well soon Boris.
 
Last edited:
ABUzuZU.jpg



None of the antibody tests ordered by the government is good enough to use, the new testing chief has admitted.

John Newton said that tests ordered from China were able to identify immunity accurately only in people who had been severely ill and that Britain was no longer hoping to buy millions of kits off the shelf.
 
You don't check in to ICU as a preliminary measure. Britains need to start dealing with the reality that they might be temporarily leaderless and what the next step is for getting someone in charge.
 
ABUzuZU.jpg



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8190949/None-UKs-coronavirus-antibody-tests-good-use.html

Professor Newton's comments follow claims by an expert at Columbia University in New York, who said low levels of antibodies make long-term testing difficult.

Dr David Ho said that people who don't get seriously ill appear to take much longer to develop antibodies and therefore might test negative in early stages of recovery.

He told The Guardian: 'The problem is after a couple of weeks, the detection rate remains at about 50 per cent to 60 per cent, especially in asymptomatic or mildly symptomatic cases.

'But this may not be a fault of the tests, because even using more sensitive methods in the lab we can see the antibody levels are quite low.'
 
Reportedly Boris is not on a ventilator and is still conscious, but is in the ICU as a precautionary measure in case his condition worsens.
 
My phone pinged and I knew what the news update was already. Day 10 is important based on what they know about the disease so naturally he would be moved to IC at this stage. Important figure, no hospital will wait for extra signs with a PM! I could be totally wrong just speculating.

Fuckin bbc news asking shit questions like I have it on repeat!
 
ABUzuZU.jpg



China coming through again.

Did they just order this off of Wish or Alibaba or something?
 
Reportedly Boris is not on a ventilator and is still conscious, but is in the ICU as a precautionary measure in case his condition worsens.
I hope that's the case, but I don't know how these things usually go. If he was in really bad shape would they inform the public? Or would they hide it to prevent panic? I don't know what standard procedure is.
 
I hope that's the case, but I don't know how these things usually go. If he was in really bad shape would they inform the public? Or would they hide it to prevent panic? I don't know what standard procedure is.

Not sure there is a standard procedure for a hostile state engineering a bioweapon and taking out the prime minister tbh.
 
Reportedly Boris is not on a ventilator and is still conscious, but is in the ICU as a precautionary measure in case his condition worsens.

I would imagine that they would probably move the Prime Minister to more intensive treatment much faster/earlier than your average joe schlub. I guess we will have to wait and see.

Like everybody else that has this, I hope he pulls through but you cant help but wonder what kind of ramifications this will have if he does die.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top Bottom