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[Naibel]

When a French movie isn't some lame comedy, it's 90% of the time some pretensious artsy-filled navel-gazing neo-bourgeois garbage, with within those last few years copious amount of obnoxious SocJus/PC messages added in. Some of those movies happen to be good because some actors/directors convey their navel-gazing better than other, but most don't. Yet there are always critics that will label those movies as "inspiring", "groundbreaking" or "important". Each time a movie gets those words printed on its poster, I avoid it like the plague.

In terms of Hollywood stuff, mmhhh, I would say "The Shape Of Water". Not hated it (it's alright), but found it very overrated. They channeled that "Amelie/Jean Pierre Jeunet" look, with unwanted bestiality on top of it. And one of the vilains was such a chauvinistic asshole, I rolled my eyes to it.

I find Asian cinema much more intersting nowadays anyway.

 

[Shizumapower]

Not a movie but add Star Trek Picard to the list.

 

[mortal]

Wes Anderson the thread eh?

Huh? Wes Anderson films are "liberal rank"? News to me.

 

[oagboghi2]

It’s been a while since I actually saw the film now so maybe he did something I’m forgetting but I took it to be that the kid wasn’t actually an alt-right Nazi. That he’s just someone that maybe leans right and spends a lot of time online. So the other side of the family just projects him as being that because that’s how people talk these days, extrapolating the views of those you disagree with out to an extreme stereotype.

That sounds to smart to be Rian Johnson

 

[Nemesisuuu]

Huh? Wes Anderson films are "liberal rank"? News to me.

Actually I've missed that liberal in threads name, when I saw wank movies, Wes Anderson is first name that popped in my head. Didn't read carefully.

 

[DKehoe]

That sounds to smart to be Rian Johnson

Perhaps. But it’s not like the film expects us to like the liberal side of the family any more than the conservative side. So if all we have to go on is their word then it doesn’t seem we should trust them when they call him that.

 

[EverythingsOverrated]

Not a movie, but my girlfriend watches this show called good trouble and I swear anytime I walk in on her watching it there's a character saying something about the patriarchy or the glass ceiling or immigration, or whatever the liberal/progtalking point of the day is.

Everything is so on the nose it's a pure cringe fest. You can tell exactly what their writers room looks like.

On the bright side the Mexican girl on the show is really cute.

 

[Dr. Claus]

Knives Out, recently. Beats you over the head with its politics. Every character outright tells the daughter of an immigrant POC protagonist that she’s a good person, instead of showing us through her actions, in order to justify her not being a good person and acting selfishly and spitefully in the end. Thanks, Rian.

Yep. Absolutely fucking HATED Knives Out. You can make a political film and do it well - we have thousands of examples of this. I will never know how Rian managed to be as successful as he has in the critical space.

 

[Despera]

Another movie I've only seen a part of but nonetheless despise is 2004's Crash. That movie makes me want to puke with it's blatant progressive messaging on race.

What a huge disappointment this was.

I watched Pluto Nash around the same time and couldn't choose which was worse lol

 

[MasterCornholio]

Wank?

 

[12Goblins]

At the time, John Q.

My views have evolved, though.

John Q was the shit!

 

[Barsinister]

The dude you quoted.

Hey, fuckface, why don’t you learn how to read?
Using descriptive language is not a judgement of good or bad. It just describes a thing/person.
Go take a long walk off a short pier, you instigator.

 

[CloudNull]

Honey Boy. I just watched it and I want my time back. Movie is rated a 94.

 

[EverythingsOverrated]

Honey Boy. I just watched it and I want my time back. Movie is rated a 94.

What a fuckin bumbling mess of a movie. Good premise, some good moments and acting, but the movie goes absolutely no where. It was like they started shooting a 10 episode season of a tv show and stopped after the third episode and said fuck it, let's release this as a movie.

On the opposite end of the Shia Lebouf spectrum - Peanut Butter Falcon was a damn good flick

 

[Barsinister]

 

[JoduanER2]

The whole Affleck family has zero talent. Ben Affleck directed movies are absolute shit too

Listen ben affleck is talks a lot of shit but he certainly does have talent and hes done a lot of good movies. Gone baby gone was great for example.

 

[HarryKS]

Hey, fuckface, why don’t you learn how to read?
Using descriptive language is not a judgement of good or bad. It just describes a thing/person.
Go take a long walk off a short pier, you instigator.

Be more polite. You assume too much.

 

[Barsinister]

Be more polite. You assume too much.

Go fuck yourself.

 

[HarryKS]

Go fuck yourself.

That's uncalled for.

 

[teezzy]

Honey Boy. I just watched it and I want my time back. Movie is rated a 94.

It was such a pile of shit, I don't know how you made it that long. I didnt even make it through the first act.

 

[Barsinister]

That's uncalled for.

You know what's uncalled for? Little instigating rats like yourself. I'm tired of the "just asking questions" dickheads who shit up every forum and internet space. If you have a problem with me or my posts, please contact me directly so I can tell you to fuck off in a PM. I'm not a last word fetishist, so reply all you want after this. I've never used the ignore user feature on this forum, until I interacted with you.

 

[#Phonepunk#]

In college one day some communications class or something they showed the 15 or so minutes of “Crash”. Never before or since have I seen a more obliviously crap woke piece of trash.

 

[DeepEnigma]

She's in it. Was a decent movie. What's wrong with Hispanic kids?

Be more polite. You assume too much.

 

[kittoo]

Disagree about Manchester by the sea. Its a great movie with some very darkly funny scenes, a scene which is beyond sad and shocks to the core and great acting by Cassey.
Now Black Panther. There is a movie which is completely pandering but even that is not its biggest sin. Its biggest sin is that its actually extremely boring and pedestrian. It got rave reviews purely because of its black power message.

 

[Tesseract]

You know what's uncalled for? Little instigating rats like yourself. I'm tired of the "just asking questions" dickheads who shit up every forum and internet space. If you have a problem with me or my posts, please contact me directly so I can tell you to fuck off in a PM. I'm not a last word fetishist, so reply all you want after this. I've never used the ignore user feature on this forum, until I interacted with you.

 

[HarryKS]

It was just a normal question. Could have just sayed 'nothing'. Would have been perfectly fine.
I'm not part of the SJW crowd.

 

[DeepEnigma]

It was just a normal question. Could have just sayed 'nothing'. Would have been perfectly fine.
I'm not part of the SJW crowd.

You insinuated.

Who said anything is wrong with them?

The dude you quoted.

Yeah, that is not a "normal question", you made a claim he thought there was something wrong with them.

You sure want to honeydick in a thread with a baited projection, for someone who isn't "SJW".

 

[HarryKS]

You insinuated.




Yeah, that is not a "normal question", you made a claim he thought there was something wrong with them.

You sure want to honeydick in a thread with a baited projection, for someone who isn't "SJW".

Actually, I see it now. That's true. My bad.

 

[Airola]

It’s another example of lazy storytelling. There are zero examples of that character acting like an alt-right Nazi in the movie. We’re told that he is, and we can see that he’s a white boy who dresses like a young Republican/conservative, that’s pretty much all there is to go on.

The only real problem with that movie was that most characters had no depth, and that's probably partly because the actual plot ended up being something completely else than a murder mystery where these people would be suspects. They are basically just a single group against the main character without much of individuality in any of them.

The movie was really fun when it became sort of a reverse murder mystery but initially it felt pretty hollow when nothing was done with most of the characters. The boy was told he's an alt-right nazi, and the girl who said that was mostly just a girl who says things like that of a boy who is on his phone and dresses like that. As much as the boy got undeserved lumping in certain category, the girl also was mostly just a shallow person who would say things like that without any real evidence, an example of a person who puts others in a box and whines a lot.

I don't think the movie would've been better if they had shown the boy being an "alt-right troll". I mean, that would've just shown what the girl tells us is true. Now he's just a boy who has a sister(?) who might or might not be what the girl says he is. All I got from the boy was that he couldn't care less of what the girl says about him, and really not care much about anything else than whatever he does with his smartphone. And it kinda shows that we shouldn't care about the girl's claims either. He can be seen as an example of a person who really doesn't do much trouble but gets others whine about him just because of what he looks like.

 

[TaySan]

American Sniper......

 

[Tesseract]

American Sniper......

 

[Papa]

Guys this thread isn’t about general movies you didn’t like. It’s about the ones where you know they stood around sniffing each other’s farts between takes. The movie itself doesn’t necessarily have to be political, but you just know it’s made by the liberal Hollywood types who love flicking themselves off over how artsy and pretentious they are.

Synecdoche New York is another one I remembered.

 

[Airola]

I don't know if Birdman is a "liberal wank movie" but it was terrible. It was painful to watch in movie theater, one of the biggest movie disappointments in my life.

Joker wasn't as good as it should've been and what everyone says it was.
It never really gets high enough stakes and ends before anything really exciting and terrifying happens. Sure the shooting in the talk show was pretty well made but I thought that should've started some exciting plotline, but nothing that interesting happens after that and then it's over.

 

[TheSadRanger]

Actually I've missed that liberal in threads name, when I saw wank movies, Wes Anderson is first name that popped in my head. Didn't read carefully.

You shut your mouth, Moonrise Kingdom, Royal Tenenbaums, Grand Budapest Hotel and Life Aquatic are fucking fantastic.

Wes Anderson makes films that are character dramas, there's no bullshit comic book superheroes, no aliens, no Michael Bay explosions. It's all witty writing that's very wacky and fun to watch with great set visuals.

With so many movies taking themselves "super serious" or having to be "the Joker" I appreciate the lighter tone of Wes Anderson films, I would say that they're the opposite of wank because his films don't take themselves seriously.

 

[Papa]

Why the hell is Joker coming up? That’s like the complete opposite of liberal wank.

 

[EverythingsOverrated]

In college one day some communications class or something they showed the 15 or so minutes of “Crash”. Never before or since have I seen a more obliviously crap woke piece of trash.

Haha! Funny you say that. Around that time i was in school studying video/tv production and I had a film study teacher who was an absolute fart sniffer. I want to say it was around 2006 or so and this guy had us watch Crash in our film study class. Just a completely mediocre movie in just about every way. Homeboy was just jizzing his pants discussing it with the class.

This same professor would constantly shit on anything made on Tarantino but he would constantly show us these straight up wank fests.

 

[Cunth]

Remember American Beauty. This plastic bag is so beautiful I want to cry

 

[Papa]

Haha! Funny you say that. Around that time i was in school studying video/tv production and I had a film study teacher who was an absolute fart sniffer. I want to say it was around 2006 or so and this guy had us watch Crash in our film study class. Just a completely mediocre movie in just about every way. Homeboy was just jizzing his pants discussing it with the class.

This same professor would constantly shit on anything made on Tarantino but he would constantly show us these straight up wank fests.

That’s the kinda shit I’m talking about. Those shit movies that are just completely insipid but appeal to the pretentious fart sniffers.

 

[Ikutachi]

Long Shot. It's showing a ResetEra member hitting it off with a hot woman and he got upset at his friend for being a Republican. The friend is black so he couldn't cancel him completely.

 

[Tesseract]

hm, i'm gonna go with good will hunting

 

[Nemesisuuu]

You shut your mouth, Moonrise Kingdom, Royal Tenenbaums, Grand Budapest Hotel and Life Aquatic are fucking fantastic.

Wes Anderson makes films that are character dramas, there's no bullshit comic book superheroes, no aliens, no Michael Bay explosions. It's all witty writing that's very wacky and fun to watch with great set visuals.

With so many movies taking themselves "super serious" or having to be "the Joker" I appreciate the lighter tone of Wes Anderson films, I would say that they're the opposite of wank because his films don't take themselves seriously.

Your call, it's all subjective. I find them to be pretentious, it has nothing to do with aliens, superheroes etc.

Ironically, I like David Lynch's work. (while talking about pretentious)

No need to get worked up about it, it's not like I'll change my mind about it, or you for that matter. If Wes Anderson is crap in my eyes, doesn't mean you can't enjoy it.

edit: Joker is also meh, while we're at it lol

 

[TheSadRanger]

Remember American Beauty. This plastic bag is so beautiful I want to cry

At the time when it came out over 15 years ago maybe. But American Beauty hasn't really aged well with the whole Kevin Spacey thing and the movie itself hasn't aged well.

The whole side plot of Kevin Spacey fantasizing over his daughters friend was really fucking creepy looking back.

 

[Papa]

David Lynch is the epitome of fart sniffing

 

[Airola]

Why the hell is Joker coming up? That’s like the complete opposite of liberal wank.

I don't care what political side wanks, but Joker is probably the easiest character to take and make some philosophical and psychological wankery. Everybody, liberal and conservative, wants to say they understand Joker.

And the worst of them do this:


When Ledger's serious super edgy Joker happened, people romanticized the character to hell and back and created the ultimate cringe.
Phoenix's Joker went even further with the seriousness and gave more ammo for cringy Joker fans.

I liked Ledger's Joker a lot and liked Phoenix's Joker quite a bit too so it's not like I'm really dissing the character or the movies, but come on, Joker's character is surrounded with cringy wankery all over the world and the movies can fall into that wankery quite a bit too. Him dancing on the stairs was a stupid attempt at making the character look "crazy but classy".

EDIT:
Besides, everyone who tries to make a comic book superhero character into some serious adult thing immediately wanks quite a bit. Tackling that subject with that "adult seriousness" is mostly just people smelling each others farts and wanking at the thought of their childhood thing becoming a legit adult serious business.

 

[Nemesisuuu]

David Lynch is the epitome of fart sniffing

That's what I'm talking about, subjective, no need to cry about it lol

It's pretentious, but to me still has some charm. Not everything tho, he also has some borderline unwatchable stuff.

 

[TheSadRanger]

Your call, it's all subjective. I find them to be pretentious, it has nothing to do with aliens, superheroes etc.

Ironically, I like David Lynch's work. (while talking about pretentious)

No need to get worked up about it, it's not like I'll change my mind about it, or you for that matter. If Wes Anderson is crap in my eyes, doesn't mean you can't enjoy it.

edit: Joker is also meh, while we're at it lol

I understand that Wes Anderson films aren't really everyone's cup of tea and that's cool if you don't like them. I just don't think they're pretentious because they're always very light hearted films with positive messages and themes. Family and friends are a big part of Wes Anderson movies.

Wes Anderson films explore that humans are often flawed individuals but instead of focusing on cynicism his movies emphasize on characters learning to become a better person.

 

[Airola]

David Lynch is the epitome of fart sniffing

I wouldn't say he is smelling farts or doing any wankery because there's some real honesty in what he does, but the fans and whoever works with him definitely are.

 

[Barsinister]

Synecdoche New York is another one I remembered.

That's one where I'll strongly disagree. It is one of my favorite movies. Maybe because the themes resonated with me so much, I overlook the more fart-sniffing aspects, but for a movie about life, there's nothing else like it.

 

[Airola]

This same professor would constantly shit on anything made on Tarantino but he would constantly show us these straight up wank fests.

I used to dislike Tarantino's movies a lot.
I thought they are some serious wankery, and a lot of them still are. I dislike Kill Bill and Pulp Fiction a lot and I used to have a lot of antipathy towards everything he does, but for whatever reason I really enjoyed Django and I really LOVED The Hateful Eight, which I think is one of the best and most entertaining movies I've ever seen. So I guess I'm not a fan of his early wankery-fests of movies, but I'm a fan of his more recent movies.

 

[Lanrutcon]

David Lynch is the epitome of fart sniffing

He's very polarizing. I haven't met a single person who likes all his work, it's usually "I like <x> and <y> of his, but the rest is garbage".