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[Setzer]

This is a good video that talks about the VA case study using Hydroxy Chloroquine. He starts to talk about it at the 5:45 mark. For those not interested in watching, he says that the VA test study isn't reliable, more controlled testing still needs to be done on HCQ and the jury is still out on it's effectiveness for COVID-19.

I'm going to stick with that it's still an effective form of treatment if given to patients early on or if they have mild symptoms.

 

[Phunkydiabetic]

Trump plans to cut daily coronavirus briefings

He may stop appearing daily and make shorter appearances when he does.

www.axios.com

Aw come on! He has been such an amazing source of covid-19 knowledge, who will the people of America look to for their facts on the situation?!

 

[Phunkydiabetic]

Eminem sends pasta to Detroit health care workers treating coronavirus

Rapper and Detroit native Eminem, also known as Marshall Mathers, sent pasta to front-line workers in Detroit this week in a show of appreciation to those combating the coronavirus pandemic. T…

thehill.com

Eminem. The hero we need but don't deserve.

 

[room414]

Great video.

2 doctors get questions from reporters. One group is using their own data, expertise and experience to make a conclusion. The other just repeats what they heard from the "authorities"

The people being tested are largely symptomatic. Extrapolating that data over the entire population doesn't make sense.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Fuck China News

 

[ManaByte]

It's 90+ degrees. A lot of people don't have AC. They aren't going to flock to a government "cooling center" just to be held in house arrest there.

 

[EviLore]

 

[Jtibh]

It's 90+ degrees. A lot of people don't have AC. They aren't going to flock to a government "cooling center" just to be held in house arrest there.

I totally get it.
I just got a call from my dentist that they bumped me by another month so nothing before june for me and i am not happy.
But at the same time this is like jumping out of a plain and saying oh look this parachute slows down my descend i guess its ok to take it off now.

You will see all this will result in a massive wave 2 that we wont be able to cope with as by that time we will have also the flu season kicking in.

 

[Jtibh]

True heroes.
This is what we are in this together means and not what these meaningless celebrities do with sitting in their 20000 sf homes with pools and massive backyards making petty videos about who knows what just to stay relevant.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

this is a few days old but damn I can't believe the wet markets are open again

 

[Setzer]

I'll be interested to see the results from this test they are doing in my state....

New UW Medicine clinical trial to treat COVID-19 outpatients with hydrocholorquine

A new clinical treatment trial launched Friday and UW Medicine researchers are looking for COVID-19 patients to test the effectiveness of anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine. UW researchers want to enroll 630 people who currently have the COVID-19 virus. Researchers say this particular study...

komonews.com

They want to look at HCQ's effectiveness when treating patients early with it instead of waiting until they're already in the hospital with severe symptoms.

 

[Stouffers]

I was ready to poke fun at Trump over this, but after watching CNN and even Drudges disgustingly smug “coverage” slathered in hyperbole/exaggeration, they’ve somehow made me feel bad for Trump.

 

[cryptoadam]

I'll be interested to see the results from this test they are doing in my state....

New UW Medicine clinical trial to treat COVID-19 outpatients with hydrocholorquine

A new clinical treatment trial launched Friday and UW Medicine researchers are looking for COVID-19 patients to test the effectiveness of anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine. UW researchers want to enroll 630 people who currently have the COVID-19 virus. Researchers say this particular study...

komonews.com

They want to look at HCQ's effectiveness when treating patients early with it instead of waiting until they're already in the hospital with severe symptoms.

VA's secretery Robert Wilkie said it works in younger patients. The ones that died in the VA study were in the worst condition, which matches with what the YouTube Dr guy said. I don't know with it. I think in the end it might just work in mild cases but if you get on a vent its not much help. So there will always be that lingering question if people just got better or if the HCQ actually did anything. China is stopping to use it now along with Resdesimver so I think both are busts.

But thats what science is for.

 

[ManaByte]

I was ready to poke fun at Trump over this, but after watching CNN and even Drudges disgustingly smug “coverage” slathered in hyperbole/exaggeration, they’ve somehow made me feel bad for Trump.

Drudge has been linking non-stop to The Sun. It's a tabloid piece of shit now.

 

[Setzer]

VA's secretery Robert Wilkie said it works in younger patients. The ones that died in the VA study were in the worst condition, which matches with what the YouTube Dr guy said. I don't know with it. I think in the end it might just work in mild cases but if you get on a vent its not much help. So there will always be that lingering question if people just got better or if the HCQ actually did anything. China is stopping to use it now along with Resdesimver so I think both are busts.

But thats what science is for.

I'm sticking with HCQ being an effective treatment for people with mild symptoms or even used prophylactically. I think if treated early enough with it you will have less people needing to go to the hospital and you will save lives.

Also, it seems Japan and Russia are having success treating patients with Favipiravir based on their #'s but we'll have to wait for the results of their studies.

 

[nush]

this is a few days old but damn I can't believe the wet markets are open again

Wet markets have been open for weeks. Apart from the sensationalized depictions of them they really are just outside or covered farmers markets and not the "Lets eat our way through the cast of the Muppet Show in unsanitary conditions" markets. Yes, you could find weird stuff in some markets in some places but the vast majority just sell vegetables, pork, fish and fowl. Not that I'd want to buy meat from them myself, but I will have eaten meat brought for them at some point. Where do you thing the small restaurants get their ingredients from in China anyway?

To put it into a more western perspective expecting wet markets to close would be like expecting every fast food chain (Burger and fries type) in America to close because of mad cow disease.

 

[longdi]

we are back people?

Reuters

China could have a coronavirus vaccine ready for public release by early next year — and one for “emergency” use as soon as September, one of the country’s top health officials said.

Gao Fu, head of the Chinese Center for Disease Control, told state-run media that the country could have a vaccine available in time for a potential second wave of outbreaks, the South China Morning Post reports.

“We are in the frontline for the vaccine development, and we may have a vaccine ready for emergency use by September,” Gao told China Global Television Network.

“These newly developed vaccines, which are still under phase two or phase three clinical trials, could be used for some special groups of people, for example, health care workers.”

Gao added that Chinese scientists may also have a vaccine for the healthy population “early next year.”

His statement marked the first time a Chinese official has set a time frame for the development of a COVID-19 inoculation, according to the paper.

The US Food and Drug Administration has said the release of a vaccine in the US is likely at least a year away while the World Health Organization estimated that it will take up to 18 months.

The mumps vaccine — considered the fastest vaccine ever approved — took four years to go from development stages to licensing in 1967, according to National Geographic.

A vaccine is considered the key to slowing the spread of the coronavirus, which has infected more than 2.7 million people and killed at least 195,000 people worldwide so far, according to Johns Hopkins University data

.

 

[cryptoadam]

I'm sticking with HCQ being an effective treatment for people with mild symptoms or even used prophylactically. I think if treated early enough with it you will have less people needing to go to the hospital and you will save lives.

Also, it seems Japan and Russia are having success treating patients with Favipiravir based on their #'s but we'll have to wait for the results of their studies.

Problem is China owns fujifilm LOL. I hope HCQ can at least have some benefits and I agree I think it will only work on the early stage of the virus.

 

[nush]

we are back people?

.

Shit-load of quantifiers in that quote, I'm gonna say no.

 

[cryptoadam]

If its anything like their medical supplies thats a hard pass from me.

 

[cryptoadam]

Israel plan to re open

Coronavirus deaths in Israel reach 200, 15,398 infected

Ministers and the top-tier of the education system are expected to meet about when to open schools on Sunday.

m.jpost.com

 

[DragoonKain]

I've kinda tuned out on this for a few days, so not sure if this is new or old, but one of Maher's guests tonight said the false negative rate is high? He said at a hospital they had 20 patients who they knew for sure had covid and 18 tested negative.

That sounds... not ideal.

 

[cryptoadam]

I've kinda tuned out on this for a few days, so not sure if this is new or old, but one of Maher's guests tonight said the false negative rate is high? He said at a hospital they had 20 patients who they knew for sure had covid and 18 tested negative.

That sounds... not ideal.

Probably chinese tests.

 

[desertdroog]

And the mistake that everyone makes is that there are jobs that Americans won't do and we can't do anything any more. Align our population in a crisis and point us towards an enemy and watch history get made.

Every.

Time.

 

[Joe T.]

Not sure if this was posted already, didn't catch it with a quick scan, but another antibody test, this one from Miami-Dade County, shows a much larger slice of their population might have been infected with the CCP virus (source: Miami Herald).

About 6 percent of Miami-Dade’s population — about 165,000 residents — have antibodies indicating a past infection by the novel coronavirus, dwarfing the state health department’s tally of about 10,600 cases, according to preliminary study results announced by University of Miami researchers Friday.

The study, spurred by Miami-Dade County officials, will be an ongoing weekly survey based on antibody testing — randomly selecting county residents to volunteer pinpricks of their blood to be screened for signs of a past COVID-19 infection, whether they had tested positive for the virus in the past or not. The goal is to measure the extent of infection in the community.

Friday’s results, based on two weeks of countywide antibody testing and about 1,400 participants, found that about half of the people who tested positive for antibodies reported no symptoms in the 14-17 days before being tested. If the trend holds, the findings could have major implications for understanding not only the number of people infected, but also how many have symptoms and, in turn, how the virus spreads.

UM researchers used statistical methods to account for the limitations of the antibody test, which is known to generate some false positive results. The researchers say they are 95% certain that the true amount of infection lies between 4.4% and 7.9% of the population, with 6% representing the best estimate.

That would mean about 165,000 estimated infections in Miami-Dade, with the margin of error equating to 123,000 residents on the low end and 221,000 residents on the high end.

UM researchers say their findings are more robust than most because they used Florida Power & Light to generate phone numbers in targeted demographic areas, leading to a more randomized selection of participants.

Natalie Dean, a biostatistician and assistant professor at the University of Florida, has been following serological surveys across the country. She said UM’s preliminary results show a level of under-detection that is roughly consistent with the New York results and other estimates — aside from the more controversial Santa Clara study.

“I would expect this factor to be somewhat stable across the U.S., although it will vary due to differences in testing capacity,” Dean said.

 

[hariseldon]

I have a fuck money attitude but shit has been bad for a long time, some of the best projects I've ever been offered came at the worst time.

Oh well I contacted my doctor due to having Sickle Cell I can't just go to just any hospital because once infected it will trigger a painful Sickle Cell crisis

Anyway my doctor knows will be tested soon

If you’ve had a fuck money attitude for a long time you can do it one more time, because if it’s a question of living or dying you fucking well do whatever the fuck is necessary to fucking stay alive, to stay in the game so you have a shot at fixing your finances later.

 

[Tesseract]

 

[hariseldon]

this is a few days old but damn I can't believe the wet markets are open again

It's almost as if they know it wasn't the wet market that caused this shit.

 

[MichaelRR1989]

And the mistake that everyone makes is that there are jobs that Americans won't do and we can't do anything any more. Align our population in a crisis and point us towards an enemy and watch history get made.

Every.

Time.

to make sure there's nothing problematic.

 

[Tesseract]

Mike Pompeo spoke at the 2020 National Governors Association regarding China. Worth a watch.

re: state of china, everyone should watch

props to droog for linking

 

[The Scrivener]

Consumer pressure - simple. So if you go to a supermarket and see the staff aren't properly protected, shop elsewhere. Indeed that is happening here in the UK.

If there is hope, it lies in the proles.

 

[lifa-cobex]

 

[Stitch]

 

[jason10mm]

Sweet, Santa Fe has a beach?

 

[Liljagare]

Oh boy, 2-3% only, with immunity in Wuhan I just read.

Reaaaally hope that isn't true.

 

[ManaByte]

Just like there was no human to human transmission, right?

 

[cryptoadam]

Just like there was no human to human transmission, right?

The tweet is a bit sensationalist this time the WHO is actually erring on the side of caution. All these countries planning on giving out immunity cards. The WHO is saying right now we dont have evidence that immunity last forever. That immunity card may be useless.

Now i can be a bit cynical and say the WHO just wants us all to stay in our houses and dontae 175 million to their stupid concerts. But i think this time they are cautining people to not assume once infected you can never be infected again in your life.

 

[Nicktendo_]

Just like there was no human to human transmission, right?

Yeah I'll wait for any statements from the US, SK, Taiwanese or German governments before this corrupt, compromised, sell-out organisation.
They may be right, but I'm taking any information they release with a pinch of salt.

 

[Djau]

And the mistake that everyone makes is that there are jobs that Americans won't do and we can't do anything any more. Align our population in a crisis and point us towards an enemy and watch history get made.

Every.

Time.

Well, that, or wait till the conflict is almost over and claim you did more than your allies yeah.

 

[ManaByte]

 

[Narasumas]

This video gives me hope.

If i only watch these celebs how awfull their lives become i will feel much much better about myself

I think I need to look into Australian comedy a bit more, because this is some good shit.

These are the same people who made the Privilege Bridge video.

 

[cryptoadam]

Sounds like BS and fish tank cleaner women story to me.

 

[ManaByte]

Los Angeles Tyrant threatens people to stay inside and die during a heat wave or else he‘ll extend the lockdown.

Mayor urges Angelenos to stay indoors during weekend heat wave, saying it will help lift stay-at-home orders sooner

The number of coronavirus cases and fatalities continued to climb this week in Los Angeles. But Mayor Eric Garcetti says the rate of increase was slower than in recent weeks, and initial data sugge…

ktla.com

 

[hariseldon]

These are the same people who made the Privilege Bridge video.

Well that's cunty.

 

[Jooxed]

Los Angeles Tyrant threatens people to stay inside and die during a heat wave or else he‘ll extend the lockdown.

Mayor urges Angelenos to stay indoors during weekend heat wave, saying it will help lift stay-at-home orders sooner

The number of coronavirus cases and fatalities continued to climb this week in Los Angeles. But Mayor Eric Garcetti says the rate of increase was slower than in recent weeks, and initial data sugge…

ktla.com

Huge tyrant

Police and lifeguards will be patrolling beaches, but they’ll give warnings and ask for voluntary compliance. They won’t be “seeking to bring the heavy hand of the law down,” Garcetti said.

 

[Djau]

Huge tyrant

Police and lifeguards will be patrolling beaches, but they’ll give warnings and ask for voluntary compliance. They won’t be “seeking to bring the heavy hand of the law down,” Garcetti said.

When people claim the smallest things as Tyranny, they won't notice when real Tyranny appears.

 

[JORMBO]

Such a garbage story.

An unusually high number of New Yorkers contacted city health authorities over fears that they had ingested bleach or other household cleaners

None of the people who reached out died or required hospitalization, the spokesman said.

According to data obtained by The News, the Poison Control Center only handled 13 similar cases in the same 18-hour period last year.

So no where does it say these people intentionally drank cleaner to try and cure themselves. They came in contact with some cleaner and wanted to make sure they were ok. A lot more people are using cleaners now for normal things such as cleaning masks. No one was hurt. They tried to write this as an orange man bad story.

The news site intentionally used the statistic “during a similar period last year” rather then picking a timeframe over the last few days or even any timeframe during the pandemic where more cleaner is being used.

 

[lukilladog]

I've kinda tuned out on this for a few days, so not sure if this is new or old, but one of Maher's guests tonight said the false negative rate is high? He said at a hospital they had 20 patients who they knew for sure had covid and 18 tested negative.

That sounds... not ideal.

Nobody knows "for sure" until they get tests results.

 

[cryptoadam]

Such a garbage story.





So no where does it say these people intentionally drank cleaner to try and cure themselves. They came in contact with some cleaner and wanted to make sure they were ok. A lot more people are using cleaners now for normal things such as cleaning masks. No one was hurt. They tried to write this as an orange man bad story.

The news site intentionally used the statistic “during a similar period last year” rather then picking a timeframe over the last few days or even any timeframe during the pandemic where more cleaner is being used.

This is fish tank cleaner women all over again.

We all predicted this. The media would start finiding stories about people drinking bleach.

The only people who said that was the left media. Trump never said it and FOX didnt say it. So the only way someone would get that idea is if they watch left wing media.

 

[Captain Zyrain]