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The Last of us 2 Pre-Order hits #1 Across the Web

Not surprising at all tbh, TLOU2 is by far the most anticipated PS4 game of the gen and will going to be an amazing polished and fun experience, regardless of its story.

If the story is really that shitty (I've no idea, I'm not going to spoil me on purpose), MAYBE could have some backlash in the long run or for TLOU3.

Is like if someone leaks that in BOTW2 Link get kidnapped and Zelda have to save him. Sure there would lot of drama, but the game would sell gangbusters anyway.

Are games after all, not movies (where a bad plot usually kill the experience).
I would play the fuck outta that Zelda game.
 
Why the fuck would you use Amazon for games in the UK when ShopTo, The Game Collection and Simply Games exist. Those 3 are all much cheaper and deliver games demonstrably faster than Amazon.
 
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Why the fuck would you use Amazon for games in the UK when ShopTo, The Game Collection and Simply Games exist. Those 3 are all much cheaper and deliver games demonstrably faster than Amazon.

With Shopto games would arrive a few days early for me used to use them all the time till I went digital, and never understood how they could undercut everyone.
 
With Shopto games would arrive a few days early for me used to use them all the time till I went digital, and never understood how they could undercut everyone.
No doubt! I find The Game Collection to be even better. My copy of MGS5 turned up a full week before release date. Cheap af too. PSN needs to sort out its pricing if it wants my £. £55 for TLOU2 is a piss take when it's available for £45 elsewhere.
 
Thats great....but there is no other games out there that it is going up against..

lol, yeah. It is selling better than spongebob.

on the all brands chart, Animal Crossing is still number one, tlou2 is 4th (after ffvii, zelda botw, and AC; nintendo killing it).
 
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The game will sell millions very easily and do well critically. Its the freakin LAST OF US 2.

Don't like where they took the story but dems the breaks.
 
Most things that go woke usually go full woke on the marketing. That's when it affects the sales, because people aren't interested in identity politics for entertainment.
Perfect example is some of the recent woke movies that bombed, like Terminator Woke Fate. They went full woke on the Marketing and no one was interested in that trash.

TLOU2 didn't go full woke on the marketing, so most people have no idea that it's full of agenda driven story telling. A lot of people are in for a massive disappointment.
 
Most things that go woke usually go full woke on the marketing. That's when it affects the sales, because people aren't interested in identity politics for entertainment.
Perfect example is some of the recent woke movies that bombed, like Terminator Woke Fate. They went full woke on the Marketing and no one was interested in that trash.

TLOU2 didn't go full woke on the marketing, so most people have no idea that it's full of agenda driven story telling. A lot of people are in for a massive disappointment.

So that's why Gears 5 bombed. They went full woke with the marketing and story. Thanks for clearing that up.
 
Most things that go woke usually go full woke on the marketing. That's when it affects the sales, because people aren't interested in identity politics for entertainment.
Perfect example is some of the recent woke movies that bombed, like Terminator Woke Fate. They went full woke on the Marketing and no one was interested in that trash.

TLOU2 didn't go full woke on the marketing, so most people have no idea that it's full of agenda driven story telling. A lot of people are in for a massive disappointment.
I think people have to realise it wasnt necessarily the "wokeness" that ruined the last terminator movie. They have all been mediocre and trash after 2. The whole woke thing is also an excuse to give it just because it fuckn sucks generally. The Terminator franchise should have ended with 2, period. The Sara Conner was built and played a key role in the movie.
 
So that's why Gears 5 bombed. They went full woke with the marketing and story. Thanks for clearing that up.

Gears 5 bombed? I didn't realize... I did find the game to be incredibly boring and dropped it about 3 hours in (PC Gamepass).
 
Gears 5 bombed? I didn't realize... I did find the game to be incredibly boring and dropped it about 3 hours in (PC Gamepass).

I think MS would look at it as a flagship title in getting their Gamepass service to a high subscriber threshold so the disappointing NPD results wouldn't be the whole story to them.
 
Gears 5 bombed? I didn't realize... I did find the game to be incredibly boring and dropped it about 3 hours in (PC Gamepass).

Agreed. Similar story, I have a feeling I wasn't woke enough. Billie Eilish with a female lead was too drastic of a change for me to handle:

 
The only real way this game will underperform at this point is if it gets underwhelming reviews.. which is highly unlikely.
 
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Anyone expecting this to bomb has lost touch with reality. This is storming out the gates. The only question is: once players have their hands on it, will the reactions kill the long term sales. I don't think reviewers will be as universally positive this time around, either.
 
Stop using amazon hourly chart to spread misinformation!
please use amazon yearly chart for more accurate data of physical sales

US

UK

Germany

Canada

France

In other word = Underwhelming chart position

Fun fact. SMO, Smash Ultimate, Pokemon SnS, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, and BOTW were at the top of the yearly chart before the release date.

2020 is going to be another Nintendo Game dominating amazon chart

Animal Crossing(25-30 million seller without another console SKU) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> TLOU2
 
Most things that go woke usually go full woke on the marketing. That's when it affects the sales, because people aren't interested in identity politics for entertainment.
Perfect example is some of the recent woke movies that bombed, like Terminator Woke Fate. They went full woke on the Marketing and no one was interested in that trash.

TLOU2 didn't go full woke on the marketing, so most people have no idea that it's full of agenda driven story telling. A lot of people are in for a massive disappointment.
Trust me when I say that people here are living in a bubble

TLOU Part II is going to be huge
 
So a big game need to release at the same time as other big games so sales data is "valid"?
No. Animal Crossing is currently stomped TLOU2 from hourly based chart, monthly based chart, and yearly based chart.
That just OP tried to make positive spin for TLOU2 underwhelming preorder on amazon.

For example Smash Ultimate became the best seller of 2018 on amazon.com for video game before ~2 months from the release date while TLOU2 still not charted in top 100 yearly chart
 
Most things that go woke usually go full woke on the marketing. That's when it affects the sales, because people aren't interested in identity politics for entertainment.
Perfect example is some of the recent woke movies that bombed, like Terminator Woke Fate. They went full woke on the Marketing and no one was interested in that trash.

TLOU2 didn't go full woke on the marketing, so most people have no idea that it's full of agenda driven story telling. A lot of people are in for a massive disappointment.
Did the terminator before that do very well? Or the one before that? Nobody cares how WOKE something is. Ghostbusters sucked, not because it had a all female cast. It was just a horrible movie.
 
Did the terminator before that do very well? Or the one before that? Nobody cares how WOKE something is. Ghostbusters sucked, not because it had a all female cast. It was just a horrible movie.

But when some bulletproof series that always sold well gets woke stuff added to it and does like usual, it's totally because of the woke stuff, right?
Why did Battlefield V underperform?
You're like the people blaming ROS instead of TLJ, because ROS "tried to undo" what TLJ did. It wasn't TLJ fault for existing.
When something gets too woke to the point it's impossible to not notice, it tends to underperform.
 
I'm sure it's #1 for most preorders cancelled right now too. I had it preordered for 2 years...operative word had, I cancelled it and ordered Insomniac's Spoder-Men instead, figure I might finally get around to playing it.
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Stop using amazon hourly chart to spread misinformation!
please use amazon yearly chart for more accurate data of physical sales

US

UK

Germany

Canada

France

In other word = Underwhelming chart position

Fun fact. SMO, Smash Ultimate, Pokemon SnS, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, and BOTW were at the top of the yearly chart before the release date.

2020 is going to be another Nintendo Game dominating amazon chart

Animal Crossing(25-30 million seller without another console SKU) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> TLOU2

As if Uncharted and Tlou games aren't sales juggernauts lol even amongst a plethora of different good games found on PS4 from third party they still sell. unlike Nintendo machines which lack those third party games and the only competition thy have between droughts are themselves. Bro get out your bubble and stop posting frivolous bs. Tlou will be a juggernaut just like the first was.
 
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But when some bulletproof series that always sold well gets woke stuff added to it and does like usual, it's totally because of the woke stuff, right?
Why did Battlefield V underperform?
You're like the people blaming ROS instead of TLJ, because ROS "tried to undo" what TLJ did. It wasn't TLJ fault for existing.
When something gets too woke to the point it's impossible to not notice, it tends to underperform.
Both movies were trash and everyone is to blame, no one sat down and had a meeting about spanning a story for three whole movies. I blame JJ for starting off with the same shit as a new hope and everything dived from then on, all three movies were ass and the characters sucked and werent memorable
 
I havent played it actually, was it as good as people say it is?

I was one of the ppl tht didn't like uc4 pacing, even stopped playing it for awhile besides the mp that I love. I tried Lost Legacy and omg it was so good all around. It actually made me go back and finish uc4 and enjoy it. That jungle in lost legacy is a thing of beauty as well.
 
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I was one of the ppl tht didn't like uc4 pacing, even stopped playing it fir awhile. I tried Lost Legacy and omg it was so good all around. It actually made me go back and finish uc4 and enjoy it. That jungle in lost legacy is a thing of beauty as well.
Personally, it was my favorite Uncharted after 2. It felt like a return to form, though obviously it's much shorter than a normal entry.
Nice I deff will try it out maybe before TLOU comes out, yeah the pacing in 4 really fucked with me
 
TLOU sold 17 freaking million copies. 17! That's their constituency, that's why this is so huge. I honestly had no idea until I checked it out.

But you'd be fool thinking leaks won't hurt early sales . They will. But more significant impact will be on long-term sales (where first game flourished). I've seen hours upon hours of leaked scenes and I'm telling you, guaranteed, word of mouth will not be good on this one. There's just no saving grace.

Many bad games sold tremendously at launch like, for example, FFXV or RE6 but it didn't last once the word got out they were bad. There's still a lot of curiosity about Part 2 and, though hard to believe, not everyone is on twitter. Vast majority of people will go blindly into this.
 
It's gonna be number 1 in sales and preorders and all that in the same way that Rise of Skywalker was #1 box office. The backlash will come later.

maybe

probably not who really cares lol

The backlash for Disney SW started with TLJ. The film was expected to gross $1.8B, which was the "safe bet."
Then, after the big 2nd weekend drop, analysts still said it was guaranteed to hit $1.6B. In the end, it didn't hit $1.34B. Obviously, this was a disappointment for Disney, since they tried to retcon the film in the next one. Of course, the damage was done and that film wasn't very well received by many fans, too, so it didn't even hit $1.08B.

The point is, it's not so much about things completing flopping, but greatly underperforming. Companies want to make a good amount of profit off of their investment into a product, not break even or make just a small profit. Otherwise, continuing to invest in that franchise isn't worth it anymore.

As for TLOU2, we're just going to have to see how things play out. It could be like like FF7R. Some said the report of 3.5M shipped, plus digital sales, in the first week showed that many weren't upset about the changes to the story. Move on to the 2nd week and it dropped 90% in Japan to #2, 87% in UK to #4, to #4 in Italy, and to #5 in EMEAA. Obviously, quite a few weren't very happy with the changes.
 
I was one of the ppl tht didn't like uc4 pacing, even stopped playing it for awhile besides the mp that I love. I tried Lost Legacy and omg it was so good all around. It actually made me go back and finish uc4 and enjoy it. That jungle in lost legacy is a thing of beauty as well.
Lost Legacy was the shit. Loved that game. i was hesitant as I didn't like uncharted 4 at all. But I'm glad I took the plunge.
 
I think people have to realise it wasnt necessarily the "wokeness" that ruined the last terminator movie. They have all been mediocre and trash after 2. The whole woke thing is also an excuse to give it just because it fuckn sucks generally. The Terminator franchise should have ended with 2, period. The Sara Conner was built and played a key role in the movie.

Except Terminator Genisys broke even and did really well in China. Terminator Woke Fate, which had the added hype of Sarah Conners and James Cameron being involved again, flopped everywhere. Get woke, go broke is a true phenomenon. It doesn't have to see the product flop necessarily, but they always seem to underperform. And mainly when it's being forced into an already established franchise. The same can be seen with the horrible comic sales of late.
 
Except Terminator Genisys broke even and did really well in China. Terminator Woke Fate, which had the added hype of Sarah Conners and James Cameron being involved again, flopped everywhere. Get woke, go broke is a true phenomenon. It doesn't have to see the product flop necessarily, but they always seem to underperform. And mainly when it's being forced into an already established franchise. The same can be seen with the horrible comic sales of late.
Well thats false because it didnt break even, it needed 450 mil to break even and was shy by either ten million, or global was 432,150,894. Technically Dark Fate was rated higher by critics and even fans, and even had s higher opening weekend than Genisys. The massive drop off prob had to do the same with the last jedi where fans felt much like Luke they did John dirty, thats not wokeness, thats story telling.

thats also false, i mean if your going spin a broke narrative how would you explain it to companies like: Gillette, Best Buy, Hulu, Netflix, Coca-Cola, Walmart, Appl, Youtube, Disney, Facebook, Microsoft etc. Plus a plentiful amount of successful movies as well that I dont know had actual good story telling and writing along with great characters.

Whats next you going to throw on your Geeks and Gamers hat and call me a Soyboy?
 
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